From:	acjpenn@******.com acjpenn@******.com
Subject:	CC martial arts
Date:	Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:31:03 -0500

> << This way of moving ties in with a way of attacking so that it becomes
> impossible to defend against it. Attacks become reversals become hold
> become whatever is required. >>
>
> Impossible to defend against: No martial art is perfect, and thus can
each
> pure form can be defended against.

No art is perfect, but an art strives to be perfect.

If that was so there would be only one
> and all others would be performed as dance cultural as historical
> presentations in theaters.
>
Not true. The body of knowledge we call the martial arts developed in
several different areas from Japan to Africa. If there is a "perfect" art,
it wouldn't have been known world over.

> >>>A code in Bushido. A lifestyle in Fubu, the martial wind. A
> ideal in the samurai, men unafraid of death. A knowledge of the true
> meaning of an old cliche' that with great power comes great
responsibility.
> A way of looking, living, learning, a way of BEING.<<<
>
> Spiritual codes are good for role-playing, but realistically us mere
mortals.
> I <Waving> being one of them; have a hard enough time living, walking,
> thinking, breathing my faith, which is a way of life, thought, and being
(the
> Druidic Path)

I was speaking of real life. I follow the path I stated.

And I have been the leader of a congregation before, and am
> not any more. To say that realistically adding this element to RP is
going
> to be an extra-ordinary feat for most RP'rs. Besides realistically most
Sams
> and other PC's with martial artists are 'Sunday go to worship' faithful
to
> their "spiritual Paths" at best!

Where do you get this? I'm sorry, I heavily disagree with you. Being a
physad should require a deep spiritual commitment to your art, and those
are the pc's with the most martial arts knowledge. A street sam can have
that attitude, but he doesn't have the powers of the adept, does he?

> >>>Your statement shows total disregard to the most basic concepts of ANY
art,
> anywhere. With this knowledge you (and I mean anyone who makes a serious
> study of the martial arts) are deadly.
>
> No, the statement shows open disdain for those who would claim
knowledge
> and dane to represent it as wisdom when; he regards the martial arts as
> something very sacred to him, which can be seen in him throwing the
gauntlet
> at your cheek after crossing it tersely across your cheek. Knowledge of
a
> thing does not give one the ability to use a thing or better yet to apply

> such a thing as would harm, much less kill a man.
>

I'm sorry, I've completely missed your point here. Would you please
clarify? Did I not come across as saying that my life is structured around
my practice? I think the Cowboy and I are on the same footing as far as
respecting what we do, and how we do it.

> >>>Control of the self and the
> situation is given paramount importance in any good training. Control of
> these techniques, control of your situation<<<
>
> Not all situations can be controlled, but adapted to, and this is even
harder
> for a smaller person who is weaker (a woman, in general)

Wrong. All situations can be controlled. And it's no harder for women or
smaller people. Control of a situation happens outside of the conflict,
whether it's parking in the open, rather than underground, or not going
into a bar full of rowdy people.

> >>> I'm glad you've never been in a fight with someone out to kill
> you.
> It isn't cinematic, it isn't pretty, it's the ugliest thing you'll
> ever see and you'll get sick after it happens. <<<
>
> Unless you are a war vet who has been in H to H combat I respectfully
doubt
> you.

Doubt me all you wish. I've been in conflict and been sick afterwards, it
could have just been me, but all those I've spoken with have the same
reaction.

> >>>Your blanket "if you've never killed, your opinion isn't
worthwhile"
could
> be considered absurd and
> childish by some. <<<
>
> I repeat the above. It was a glove thrown down in challenge. Do not be
so
> sensitive.

I was responding to a post I found offensive and off-balance, as is my
right. If you didn't find it offensive, no biggy. *shrug* I retain the
right to become offended when I see things written about what I do in a way
I don't agree with. I stated my points, he stated his, and we've come to
an understanding. Why are you standing up for this, when it's over and
done?