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From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Turn to goo spell effects
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:51:53 -0500
From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
Subject: Re: Turn to goo spell effects


> >My char uses the spell "Turn to Goo", or I should say HAS the
> >spell. With the intent on being able to melt those irritating locked
> >doors you find during runs. I figured when I designed it for 3rd
> >edition it worked the same way ramtouch does (being: you touch a
> >door and bye bye to the door, only with more of the mess).

I would like to point out that *this* is an additional qualifier to the
casting of the spell folks. Directly touching a target, especially, might
indeed change how the spell works.

> >Now me and Gurth were in an argument over this. According to him
> >the turn to goo spell affects the entire structure of a building, so I
> >can't goo a door, I'd have to goo the entire building. And even
> >though it would be fun to melt the Arcology just for kicks my char
> >probably wouldn't survive the drain (or make the targetnumber for
> >that matter :)

I do indeed see where the perplexity might come into the topic. Most of the
time, Gurth would probably be right. Note I said most of the time, and I do
realize how headstrong he can be once he feels he is (*strange angelic look
of absolute innocence displayed upon K's face ;-) *)

> >Needless to say I disagree with Gurth, otherwise this post would
> >have been unnessesary. I say it works like ramtouch, but I leave it
> >upto the opinions of the mass.
> >
> >What do you guys think?
> >
> ><comments here>
>
> I'm going to side with Gurth.

Not good Dave, you'll see why in a second.

> The rules state that non-manipulation spells cannot target specific
> locations on vehicles. I would extend that rule to buildings and other
man
> made structures. If you want to be able to bust through doors with a
> spell, take a telekinetic manipulation spell, or an acid elemental
> manipulation spell.

Ah, but this is a manipulation spell, isn't it???? Look at the wording that
you are using ... and yes I'm being pigheaded now as well. Also,
manipulation spells (especially *Transformation Manipulation*) have a
variety of limitations to them almost inherently. Fix, Fashion, Transform,
etc... all have a limitation to them of some kind. Also, as we're seeing
now this is being directly tapped, as the spell is being cast while a target
touches something directly.

Actually, I think that given the idea that the caster in question is
directly touching the door, and I'm going to presume s/he is also able to
see it somehow, then the Turn to Goo would only hit the door.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)
"Children of the Kernel: Reborn"
(neojudas@******************.com)
Hoosier Hacker House (http://www.hoosierhackerhouse.com/)

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