From:	NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject:	Spells above Force 6
Date:	Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:11:49 -0500

From: "Fanguad" <fanguad@****.rit.edu>
Subject: Re: Spells above Force 6


> > Intelligence of twice force??? I'm digging out my book now.... yeah,
page
> > 180 (SR3)... "Intelligence" is never a part of this formula, and I
think
> > that people keep forgetting other things that actually do help them
"learn"
> > the spell from the formula. Also, it won't ever take more than two
months
> > (60 days) for a Deadly drain spell. In fact, if you have a force 60
spell
> > (OMG!!!!) I think we should all be very afraid.... as learning a spell
takes
> > force in DAYS to learn. Designing it at most would take 60 days....
>
> But you have to score at least one success to learn the spell.
> Sure, the base time for a Force 60 spell is two months, but I'd like
> to see ANYONE (and that includes Dunky & Harley) hit TN#120.

For which portion of the procedure? Learning the Spell or Designing the
Spell? Designing the spell is twice desired force minus magic attribute.
For all we know, Harley and Ehran *might* have had target number of a 2
(everyone fails on a "one" after all) when it came to designing the spell.

> You are correct about Intelligence, though. It is a Sorcery Test,
> using Magic Background as a Complementary Skill. An instructor
> can also add dice to the test.
>
> > No offense guy, but go back and relearn the rules for this kind of
thing, it
> > is VERY clear that at least your recollection isn't the best.
>
> Not to be rude, but you need to read all the rules. We all make
> mistakes, especially when it comes to something as complex as
> Shadowrun.

Oh trust me, I have. In fact, I had just reread them prior to the reply I
made. Design time for a Deadly drain spell is 60 days. Learning the spell
is force of formula in days (unless of course, you start getting in various
metaplanar quests, then either or both of these times could be altered in
some manner most likely).

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