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Message no. 1
From: Erik_Jameson@*****.COM
Subject: China and the Canal
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:22:18 -0800
China and the Canal
To nerps@********.itribe.net


Sorry, my stupid e-mail program wouldn't let me reply to the
list...

I don't think the Panama Canal would be important enough for
the Azzies to turn that advantage into much. Even now, the
Canal isn't as important as it once was, mainly because the
direction and routes of shipping have changed. I'm sure a
fair amount of shipping goes through, but I would think
that, upon pain of Corporate Court sanctioned Omega Order,
the Azzies don't charge usurious rates or deny passage to
other corps like Saeder-Krupp (which seems to be the corp
that hates the Azzies the most).

As for China and Japan, if China is the mess most people
seem to think it is, why bother? It doesn't seem that
anyone can get a firm grip on more than a relatively small
chunk of turf in China. Given the historical animosity
between Japan and China, any attempt at a grab by Japan
(which they probably did do) would be met by a united China;
in other words, probably the only thing that would unite
China would be a Japanese invasion.

This isn't to say some warlord or other wouldn't try an
alliance with Japan (in fact, Japan probably does play in
Chinese politics and powerbrokering, just not with open
displays of force or maintaining territory), just that the
other warlords would unite to fight back.

Besides, _some_ would argue that Japan and the
"Japana-corps" are so powerful as to dictate policy anyway,
without the costs of having to maintain territory. Just
look at CalFree, Seattle and the rest of UCAS...

Erik J
Message no. 2
From: david christopher stephens <tfn5150@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: China and the Canal
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:03:28 -0400
my thoughts on the following




Please help me to stay awake i'm falling
asleep in perfect blue buildings
beside the green apple sea
i wanna get me a little bolivian, baby
and try to keep myself away from
myself and me
counting crows (perfect blue buildings)

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 Erik_Jameson@*****.COM wrote:

> China and the Canal
> I don't think the Panama Canal would be important enough for
> the Azzies to turn that advantage into much. Even now, the
> Canal isn't as important as it once was, mainly because the
> direction and routes of shipping have changed. I'm sure a
> fair amount of shipping goes through, but I would think
> that, upon pain of Corporate Court sanctioned Omega Order,
> the Azzies don't charge usurious rates or deny passage to
> other corps like Saeder-Krupp (which seems to be the corp
> that hates the Azzies the most).

ok, if i remember right,do not the azzies currently
hold the controlling votes in the C.C,if so would this not make
a C.C. Omega order on aztech all but an excersize in lip service?

correct me if im wrong
entropy
Message no. 3
From: Robert Hudsson <R_Hudson2@***.COM>
Subject: Re: China and the Canal
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 03:17:38 UT
At 2:03 PM June 2 Christopher Stephens said:

----------

>ok, if i remember right,do not the azzies currently
>hold the controlling votes in the C.C,if so would this not make
>a C.C. Omega order on aztech all but an excersize in lip service?

>correct me if im wrong
>entropy

I'm not so sure about that. Even if the Azzies were capable of "requesting"
that the vote come out in their favor, I think that the other megacorps might
decide that there needed to be some more room at the top. Assassinating a
couple of delegates would solve the problem neatly - or even revealing that
they've managed to get their hooks into the Azzie delegates (one or two would
do it I think) and can skew the vote accordingly.

Favoritism by the Corporate Court probably only works in small ways. Anything
big and blatant like that strikes me as an invitation to the other megas to
dissolve the body and take their chances.

Robert Hudson
Message no. 4
From: david christopher stephens <tfn5150@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: China and the Canal
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 12:01:01 -0400
Please help me to stay awake i'm falling
asleep in perfect blue buildings
beside the green apple sea
i wanna get me a little bolivian, baby
and try to keep myself away from
myself and me
counting crows (perfect blue buildings)

> I'm not so sure about that. Even if the Azzies were capable of "requesting"
> that the vote come out in their favor, I think that the other megacorps might
> decide that there needed to be some more room at the top. Assassinating a
> couple of delegates would solve the problem neatly - or even revealing that
> they've managed to get their hooks into the Azzie delegates (one or two would
> do it I think) and can skew the vote accordingly.
>
> Favoritism by the Corporate Court probably only works in small ways. Anything
> big and blatant like that strikes me as an invitation to the other megas to
> dissolve the body and take their chances.
>
> Robert Hudson
>
thanks for the p.o.v. it make s sense,sometimes this precarious balance
all of this hangs on really does amaze me.
?Entropy?
Message no. 5
From: Kristling the Weird <kristling@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: China and the Canal
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:19:59 -0400
Robert Hudsson wrote:
>
> Postage paid by: [Image]
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> At 2:03 PM June 2 Christopher Stephens said:
>
> ----------
>
> >ok, if i remember right,do not the azzies currently
> >hold the controlling votes in the C.C,if so would this not make
> >a C.C. Omega order on aztech all but an excersize in lip service?
>
> >correct me if im wrong
> >entropy
>
> I'm not so sure about that. Even if the Azzies were capable of "requesting"
> that the vote come out in their favor, I think that the other megacorps might
> decide that there needed to be some more room at the top. Assassinating a
> couple of delegates would solve the problem neatly - or even revealing that
> they've managed to get their hooks into the Azzie delegates (one or two would
> do it I think) and can skew the vote accordingly.
>
> Favoritism by the Corporate Court probably only works in small ways. Anything
> big and blatant like that strikes me as an invitation to the other megas to
> dissolve the body and take their chances.
>
> Robert Hudson

True, but then, it is possible to keep such a big thing secret. Look
what Knight- Errant and the insect spirits.

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