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Message no. 1
From: kyle kohler <kkohler@**.UCR.EDU>
Subject: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 00:32:34 -0700
On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Tim Skirvin wrote:

> > shitless of? Or is it mentally controlling the spirit to leave the
> > psionicist alone (which would be very difficult because spirit's
> > minds,
>
> How about that the Psi is not able to control spirits (as they are out-
> side of the Worldmind, and therefore untouchable), but he is able to make
> himself invisible to them? The spirits would know he was there by his aura
> and his mind, so the Psi just cuts those parts out...
>
> It would certainly make for an interesting power...complete aura
> masking or whatever...
>

Anyone got any ideas about how to handle Psionicists and
Spirits? There's been talk of having them be able to banish, or turn
them away, but not control or summon them. So, comments?

Kyle Kohler

I have the Power! (Just a little He-Man Action!)
Message no. 2
From: Darth Vader <j07c@***.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 14:47:53 +0100
> Anyone got any ideas about how to handle Psionicists and
> Spirits? There's been talk of having them be able to banish, or turn
> them away, but not control or summon them. So, comments?

I'd like to see psis controling spirits - not elementals as elementals
are mindless creatures with no inteligence. Yep controling spirits ought to
be enough - no summoning - no banishing - just controlling.

--
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Twilight is upon me and soon night must fall.
That is the way of things ... the way of the Force.

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Message no. 3
From: kyle kohler <kkohler@**.UCR.EDU>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:01:32 -0700
On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Darth Vader wrote:

> > Anyone got any ideas about how to handle Psionicists and
> > Spirits? There's been talk of having them be able to banish, or turn
> > them away, but not control or summon them. So, comments?
>
> I'd like to see psis controling spirits - not elementals as elementals
> are mindless creatures with no inteligence. Yep controling spirits ought to
> be enough - no summoning - no banishing - just controlling.
>

But what would be the explanation? Using Mind Control? That
would constitute forming some kind of psi-link. I don't know about you,
but I think the minds of spirits would really fuck up a human trying to
link with it.


Kyle Kohler

Where's my gun?
Message no. 4
From: Darth Vader <j07c@***.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:19:33 +0100
> > I'd like to see psis controling spirits - not elementals as elementals
> > are mindless creatures with no inteligence. Yep controling spirits ought to
> > be enough - no summoning - no banishing - just controlling.
> >
>
> But what would be the explanation? Using Mind Control? That
> would constitute forming some kind of psi-link. I don't know about you,
> but I think the minds of spirits would really fuck up a human trying to
> link with it.

Then we can give it some astronomical TN, but mega cool psis
should be able to do it.

--
Strong am I with the Force... but not that strong!
Twilight is upon me and soon night must fall.
That is the way of things ... the way of the Force.

GCS d>d- h s+: !g p? !au a- w+ v-(?) C+++ UAVSL++>UAVSL+++ p--(aren't we all?)
L+>L+++ 3 N++ K W(+)(---) M-- !V(--) -po+(---) Y+ t++ !5 !j- r+++(--) !G
v(++) b+++ D++ b- e+ u++(-) h*(+) f+ r- n!(----) y?
Message no. 5
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 10:16:03 +0100
On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, kyle kohler wrote:

> But what would be the explanation? Using Mind Control? That
> would constitute forming some kind of psi-link. I don't know about you,
> but I think the minds of spirits would really fuck up a human trying to
> link with it.

That's why it's a special abilitym to keep the psi from going bonkers.

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Message no. 6
From: Jai Tao <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 10:51:27 -0400
On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, kyle kohler wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Darth Vader wrote:
>
> > > Anyone got any ideas about how to handle Psionicists and
> > > Spirits? There's been talk of having them be able to banish, or turn
> > > them away, but not control or summon them. So, comments?
> >
> > I'd like to see psis controling spirits - not elementals as elementals
> > are mindless creatures with no inteligence. Yep controling spirits ought to
> > be enough - no summoning - no banishing - just controlling.
>
> But what would be the explanation? Using Mind Control? That
> would constitute forming some kind of psi-link. I don't know about you,
> but I think the minds of spirits would really fuck up a human trying to
> link with it.
>
D.C.'s finest Shadowy Think Tank thunked about this one, as well,
after poor Reggie fainted. *grin*
Channeling. It would be a manipulation which allows a psionic to
contact an intellegent spirit (or possibly in some cases a mage in the
astral?), and let that entity speak through them. Depending on the
number of successes, the psi may or may not be fully cognizant of either
their surroundings or what the spirit is saying/doing -- a basic "you did
it successfully but no extra successes" would put the channeler in a
trance and allow the spirit to speak unimpeded.
As for banishing, etcetera -- no. A psi should have no more
chance of controlling a manifested spirit than any mundane, except of
course for the addition of fancy mental tricks.
Message no. 7
From: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Psi: Psionicists and Spirits
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 19:07:34 -0500
> Then we can give it some astronomical TN, but mega cool
> psis
> should be able to do it.

Sure, it should be possible for them to do it...but it should use the
same mechanics as controlling humans, with a certain chance of going insane.

Happy now?

-------------Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@********.uni.uiuc.edu-------------
"He's NOT a gibbering idiot - he's cured of gibbering, he's just an
idiot now." -- Jane, "Waiting for God"

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