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Message no. 1
From: Les Ward <wordman@*******.COM>
Subject: World Map, first cut
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:38:45 -0500
I've completed most of the world map for the world book. It does not yet
have Siberia, as I'm waiting for Target: Smuggler's Havens to come out
(which is June now, according to FASA's web site).

Items in the map comes from three sources, in order of presidence:

1) Official FASA stuff.
2) This project's web site.
3) My judgement calls.

A few things to mention:

A) Iraq is as it is now. Iraq was strangely absent from the web site
section on the Middle East.

B) I left Somalia as a nation. I have an idea for Somalia that I will
detail in another post.

C) I guessed on the current borders of China. Generally, I just use the
borders of current provinces, but not always.

D) FASA has indicated that borders in most of Africa change all of the
time. To that end, most of Africa is just one huge "country". In reality,
it is thousands of constantly shifting microstates.

E) If the map contradicts the web site, it is usually because quite a bit
on info in the web site was made obsolete by Cyberpirates. The most glaring
example of this is Azania. The web site says Azania is a huge chunk of
southern Africa, everything south of the 10th parallel. Cyberpirates
indicates pretty clearly that Azania is what is now South Africa. So, I
made it just South Africa on the map. (Also, I think I figured out the
borders of the four states of Azania.)

F) The map is in PDF format. You will need to use the zoom features of
Acrobat Reader to see anything useful. Gurth, we still need to figure out
what format to use in the final.

G) Let me know of any errors you find. Also, if you are still writing and
want the map to change for some reason, let me know. I'm also still looking
at the color scheme. I want to pick colors that are disinct in color and
when printed, while still being light enough to let you read the black
text. (The source for the PDF is in Freehand with color styles, so changing
colors on the whole map takes about 10 seconds. Also, items are layered by
group, so it is trivial to, say, hide all non-capital cities and so on.)

H) The map: ftp://thor.flashpt.com/pub/progress/World.pdf

Wordman
Message no. 2
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: Re: World Map, first cut
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:43:13 +0200
At 10:38 06/05/98 -0500, Les Ward said:
>H) The map: ftp://thor.flashpt.com/pub/progress/World.pdf

(downloading...)

While we're at this, a nice addendum to NAGTTW would be a Guide to
Traveller, with some basic info about catching a suborbital in time,
dealing with tickets, passing customs, etc...

Any volunteer? :)
____________________________________________________________
Paolo Marcucci paolo@*********.it
InterWare Service Provider Trieste, Italy
http://www.interware.it/ Tel. +39-40-360630
Message no. 3
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: Re: World Map, first cut
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:15:49 +0200
At 10:38 06/05/98 -0500, Les Ward said:
(major snip)

WHAT A FU****NG GREAT WORK!!!

Thank you Les for my next poster :)

Just some little details (that I know of): Japan should be labeled as Japan
Imperial State (or something like that, but it's an empire... source:
FASA), Italy is also known as the Italian Federation (source: me :).
____________________________________________________________
Paolo Marcucci paolo@*********.it
InterWare Service Provider Trieste, Italy
http://www.interware.it/ Tel. +39-40-360630
Message no. 4
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: World Map, first cut
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:05:44 -0400
At 10:38 AM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:

>A few things to mention:
>
>A) Iraq is as it is now. Iraq was strangely absent from the web site
>section on the Middle East.

Iraq was absorbed into Iran/Persia. That's why it wasn't explicitly called
out.

But to tell you the truth, I've become increasingly displeased with my
treatment of the Middle East. I seem to recall adding in Turkei, but I
need to flesh that out more. I think I need to break up Persia/Iran and
bring back at least parts of Iraq. Or maybe give some of that turf to
Syria. But I think I'll be going back to hacking away to Persia/Iran.

>B) I left Somalia as a nation. I have an idea for Somalia that I will
>detail in another post.

See my other post.

>C) I guessed on the current borders of China. Generally, I just use the
>borders of current provinces, but not always.

We might get some info on this as it relates to Vladivostok. Maybe.

>E) If the map contradicts the web site, it is usually because quite a bit
>on info in the web site was made obsolete by Cyberpirates. The most glaring
>example of this is Azania. The web site says Azania is a huge chunk of
>southern Africa, everything south of the 10th parallel. Cyberpirates
>indicates pretty clearly that Azania is what is now South Africa. So, I
>made it just South Africa on the map. (Also, I think I figured out the
>borders of the four states of Azania.)

Cool. I think I forgot to change that bit. I think there are several
different versions of Azania floating around out there, in FASA-land.

>H) The map: ftp://thor.flashpt.com/pub/progress/World.pdf

I'll have to try and remember to check that out.

Erik J.


"Oh my God, they killed Dunkelzahn! You bastards!!!"
Message no. 5
From: Fred Stoessel <Fred.Stoessel@*******.AI.FH-NUERNBERG.DE>
Subject: Re: World Map, first cut
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 09:43:19 +0200
It was Wed May 6 16:47:15 1998, when Wordman wrote:

>I've completed most of the world map for the world book.

Your map is just GREAT. But maybe you can add Wit Afrika (today Malawi) =
and its
capital Hofmeyr-City (real name: Lilongwe) to it.


- Fred
Message no. 6
From: "Paolo Falco, Explorer" <Falco@****.IT>
Subject: Re: World Map, first cut
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 18:03:31 +0100
Geological prospections unearthed Paolo Marcucci's letter, C14-dated
to 6 May 98,

> Just some little details (that I know of): Japan should be labeled as
> Japan Imperial State (or something like that, but it's an empire...
> source: FASA), Italy is also known as the Italian Federation (source: me
> :).

AND me!!! :( :)

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