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Message no. 1
From: Bert Van de Merckt <Bert.VandeMerckt@****.be>
Subject: Re: EuroWars
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:51:01 +0200
Gurth wrote:
> > could some of you describe the Eurowars in more detail? Or at least
> > tell me where to find some more stuff on it?
> Just some major war in Europe, from 19 May 2031 to late January 2033. It
> was started by Russia (needing natural resources), and ended by a
> surprise strike by some bomber aircraft of which nobody knows who sent
> them and why. It caused the ECC (or EU, as it's called now) to collapse.
> Cost of the war is about 250,000 dead and a million wounded.
> > [I wanna know where we're heading :)]
> On a road to nowhere :)

heh.

let me think a while about bombers here...

thank you for filling my mailbox :) ('nuff said)

about the hormones story:
* no corp is ever gonna allow some sicko bandit steal their profits. right?
so, hormon trade has been taken over by corps. i know, it's called
"underworld", but the biggest part of this are the corps in my opinion!
[still brooding...]
* now the trade is supposedly in mafia hands (in a roundabaout way), but not
anymore. now the trade is to make animals look tasty and bodybuilders look
- well - bodybuilded. but in 2056, hormones can be used for a larger variety
of things. and made untraceable. raagh - this is getting weird.

[gee i like these brainstorms on e-mail. my phone company does also!]

yes. i might be in for a submission. the rest of brainstorm will be continued
privately (have mercy!) so you guys don't have to read my drivel :)

about the world.book.thing - anybody interested in belgium :) ?

cheers,
bert

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Message no. 2
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: EuroWars
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:15:57 +0100
Bert Van de Merckt said on 20 Apr 96...

> about the hormones story:
> * no corp is ever gonna allow some sicko bandit steal their profits. right?
> so, hormon trade has been taken over by corps. i know, it's called
> "underworld", but the biggest part of this are the corps in my opinion!
> [still brooding...]

IMHO, no. Corps should feature *very little* in Underworld. We already
know how they do their business, from Corporate Shadowfiles. That book
isn't very useful for actually running a game, but I found it contained
good background info. Anyway, even though corps can effectively do what
they please, they still have to abide by the laws of other countries in
some cases -- for example, if Aztechnology's dairy farm #26843P is on UCAS
territory, they cannot just do things there that are illegal in the UCAS.
Now I believe hormone treatments for animals are allowed in the USA at the
moment, but they're a BIG "no" in the European Union.

> [gee i like these brainstorms on e-mail. my phone company does also!]

Read your mail off-line :)

> about the world.book.thing - anybody interested in belgium :) ?

I had been thinking of pulling that together with the Netherlands -- split
Belgium in to and make Flanders part of NL. FASA doesn't seem to know what
happened around these parts (I live maybe 25 km from the Dutch/Belgian
border), so some books seem to say Belgium doesn't exist anymore as a
separate country, and others imply it does...

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Message no. 3
From: Bert Van de Merckt <Bert.VandeMerckt@****.be>
Subject: Re: EuroWars
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:28:45 +0200
Gurth wrote:
> IMHO, no. Corps should feature *very little* in Underworld. We already
> know how they do their business, from Corporate Shadowfiles. That book
> isn't very useful for actually running a game, but I found it contained
> good background info. Anyway, even though corps can effectively do what
> they please, they still have to abide by the laws of other countries in
> some cases -- for example, if Aztechnology's dairy farm #26843P is on UCAS
> territory, they cannot just do things there that are illegal in the UCAS.
> Now I believe hormone treatments for animals are allowed in the USA at the
> moment, but they're a BIG "no" in the European Union.

like corps care about laws. but ok, no corpish stuff.

> Read your mail off-line :)

oo now i didn't think of that sure didn't yeah :)

> > about the world.book.thing - anybody interested in belgium :) ?
> I had been thinking of pulling that together with the Netherlands -- split
> Belgium in to and make Flanders part of NL. FASA doesn't seem to know what
> happened around these parts (I live maybe 25 km from the Dutch/Belgian
> border), so some books seem to say Belgium doesn't exist anymore as a
> separate country, and others imply it does...

okay if I can give you a hand with it lemme know!

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"Pub: Ah,yes,a meeting place where people
attempt to reach advanced states of mental
incompetence by the repeated consumption of
fermented vegetable drinks." - Kryten
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mailto:Bert.VanDeMerckt@****.be
http://www.ping.be/~ping8611
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