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Message no. 1
From: Wordman <wordman@*******.COM>
Subject: Iceland
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:46:14 -0400
I putting together a world map and am looking at the web site to see about
certain areas. I noticed two things:

1) Iceland. The web site says that Iceland changed very little. This is not
the case. NAN 2, pg 81. "The Trans-Polar Aleut covers the northernmost
regions of what were once Alaska, the Yukon, and the Northwest Territories
of North America, the northern Areas of the eastern Soviet Union, and the
entirety of Greenland and Iceland."

2) Yakut. The entry on Yakut currently collides with my Siberia stuff;
however, it looks as if I'm going to have to redo Siberia when Target:
Smuggler's Havens comes out anyway, so I'll try to pull Yakut in.

3) East Asian War Zone. Is this offical? That is, has FASA ever mentioned
this anywhere? If so, where? This is mostly a question for Erik Jameson.
Also Erik, what other countries listed in your stuff are non-official?

My map is coming along. I have the western hemisphere done and Europe is
pretty much done (I still may need to adjust for various articles) and Asia
is underway. I'm kind of dreading doing Africa, though.

Wordman
Message no. 2
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Iceland
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:23:53 -0400
At 10:46 PM 4/29/98 -0400, you wrote:

>1) Iceland. The web site says that Iceland changed very little. This is not
>the case. NAN 2, pg 81. "The Trans-Polar Aleut covers the northernmost
>regions of what were once Alaska, the Yukon, and the Northwest Territories
>of North America, the northern Areas of the eastern Soviet Union, and the
>entirety of Greenland and Iceland."

Ick. I had forgotten that. It doesn't make any damn sense to me either
though; where the frag are the Native Americans on either island,
historically even? Okay, I think a tribe or two visited Greenland on rare
occassions, but not Iceland; it's too damn far away and is really more a
part of Europe I think than North America.

I'd be willing to grant TPA Greenland, but I can't give them Iceland, it's
simply illogical. They were never bloody there!

>2) Yakut. The entry on Yakut currently collides with my Siberia stuff;
>however, it looks as if I'm going to have to redo Siberia when Target:
>Smuggler's Havens comes out anyway, so I'll try to pull Yakut in.

I tried to make it closer to what you had, but I guess not close enough.
But yeah, Smuggler's Havens, with Vladivostok, should give much more info
about the general Siberia region. I suspect it's in the same ball park as
your general concept.

>3) East Asian War Zone. Is this offical? That is, has FASA ever mentioned
>this anywhere? If so, where? This is mostly a question for Erik Jameson.
>Also Erik, what other countries listed in your stuff are non-official?

East Asian War Zone is drawn from the "Matador" section of Fields of Fire
(specifically the last page of that chapter, where it talks about where a
merc can currently get work, which includes the SouthEast Asia War Zone,
Autralia's interior escorting supply trains and the darkest of Africa). Of
course, it seems to be contradicted by at least one other SR source (can't
recall which). So I don't know; it could go either way but I'm sticking
with some version of a chaotic, semi-constant war zone.

And if the nation hasn't been mentioned in SR, it's un-official. I tried
to draw on my PoliSci minor from college to make at least a semi-realistic
world. Hence things like Egypt not being the province of pharoahs, India
being in turmoil, Afghani Islamic rebels, the like.

>My map is coming along. I have the western hemisphere done and Europe is
>pretty much done (I still may need to adjust for various articles) and Asia
>is underway. I'm kind of dreading doing Africa, though.

Actually, Africa might not be too hard, considering my post and
Cyberpirates both seem to think that much of Africa has broken down to a
more tribal level, at least as far as government goes. Which means to me
that you could simply have a block of Africa as being tribal without
drawing out each individual tribe's boundaries.

BTW, would you mind sending me the maps that you have? I'd made some maps
of my own, but I lost the bloody things when I installed a more modern OS
(7.6.1 I think) on my Mac. If it's in a common format, I can almost
certainly read them. You could send it to "gkoth2258@***.com"; I'm curious
to see how much better than mine they are.

Erik J.


"Oh my God, they killed Dunkelzahn! You bastards!!!"

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