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Message no. 1
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:55:09 +0200
(>) I think you're being a little harsh, but you are, in essence, correct. Over the
past 70 years, over 80 teachers (that we know of) have been thrown in jail because they
taught something other than the Japanese version of truth. Something is indeed rotten in
the Land of the Rising Sun. And has been since before the Awakening.
(>) St. Stan
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(>) That doesn't, however, automatically mean that there is a "cabal of Immortal
elves" or a "draconic conspiracy" behind it. As history has shown us, man
is capable of feats of self-delusion, hubris, and outright evil that make the supposed
worst excesses of these groups pale by comparison.
(>) Asmodeus
Message no. 2
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 01:22:13 +0200
(>) That doesn't, however, automatically mean that there is a
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(>) Never said there was some Immortal cabal or that some

wyrm was behind it. It's more like something

megalomaniacally rotten in the Japanese culture. Japan is

never wrong. Japan is always right. Japan is mother.

Japan is father. Or something like that. Don't get me wrong. Not everyone in Japan is
like that. But that is how an outsider might view the Japanese culture.




(>) St. Stan
Message no. 3
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 05:22:34 +0200
(>) There's loads. Many warlords act like they're gods on earth, so if you haven't done
everything exactly right they may decide you're not worth having around any longer.
Suspected treason is also always a good reason for getting rid of runners, and anyone
aspiring to overthrow a warlord may try to use you in their plans (usually without you
knowing it), so if that comes out the warlord who initially hired you might blame it on
you. These internal politics are very dangerous to get mixe up in, and when running in
China it's pretty hard to stay out of them... Like I said, it's very hard to know where
you stand. Be very careful, these warlords aren't your typical Mr. Johnsons.
(>) Logarhythem
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(>) Add the Awakened creatures from Chinese legends, a small monastery on every hilltop
preaching some obscure branch of the Buddhist faith, and seventeen-dozen sifus claiming to
have the only "true" Shaolin Kung Fu teachings, stir in the Celestial
Bureaucracy and mages who think wood and metal are elements, toss in a dash of tong
warfare, and then simmer over an open flame of conflict for a couple of dozen years -
that's more like a recipe for why not to go to China.
(>) Emeraldeyes
Message no. 4
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:37:34 +0200
**Australia
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(>) Ok, technically this ain't a decker comment, oh NERPS people, but to check out
Australia get your butts over to the <a href
Message no. 5
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:45:24 +0200
China is a cesspool so far as anyone knows, reverting to millennia old provinces
controlled by petty warlords. There is no central government and many regions are little
better than the war zones common in the South East Asian War Zone. The last remnants of
Maoist China still control Bejing and the surrounding territory, but the vast majority of
China is controlled by some petty feudal lord or other. With at least a dozen or more
warlords, plus Maoist Bejing and the island nation of Taiwan, China is in a near constant
state of warfare.
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(>) Given the political history of the area, the balkanisation of China came as a shock
to many. It's existed as a single entity for so long it is maybe still hard to believe
that it's changed so dramatically.
(>) Stryfe
Message no. 6
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:47:47 +0200
(>) Given the political history of the area, the balkanisation of China came as a shock
to many. It's existed as a single entity for so long it is maybe still hard to believe
that it's changed so dramatically.
(>) Stryfe
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(>) Wasn't a shock to me, chummer. I've got buddies across the syndicates and they tell
me that the Triads took China down, plain and simple. Seems that a fragmented nation is a
lot easier for them to control.
(>) Belladonna
Message no. 7
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 18:39:29 +0200
(>) How do the metahumans fit into the caste system?
(>) starbolt@******.cfs
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(>) Metahumans are a caste within a caste. Humans, then elves, dwarves, orcs and then
trolls. This means that a noble troll is higher up than a human beggar. Trouble is, you
see very few orcs and trolls is the upper castes (draw your own conclusions). In fact,
the highest noble caste is 95
(>) WildKatt
Message no. 8
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 18:43:00 +0200
Still as underdeveloped and slow as it ever was. One of the few nations in the area not
hit by war or change. Even with all the chaos in India, Nepal managed to stay relatively
unaffected. Given the continual unrest of India however, it seems only a matter of time
before this small mountainous nation is drawn into the Indian conflict, espcially with the
high incidence of dwarves and trolls in Nepal.
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(>) India is convinced that dwarves and trolls from Nepal played a significant role in
the recent seperatist "troubles." They can't prove anything, but the relations
with Nepal have been on the chilly side for the past several years.
(>) WildKatt
Message no. 9
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 05:29:57 +0200
(>) Metahumans are a caste within a caste. Humans, then elves, dwarves, orcs and then
trolls. This means that a noble troll is higher up than a human beggar. Trouble is, you
see very few orcs and trolls is the upper castes (draw your own conclusions). In fact,
the highest noble caste is 95
(>) WildKatt
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(>) Considering the persistent stories regarding the number of supposedly euthanized
infants in England during the Awakening (a country that traditionally placed a much higher
value on human life), it doesn't seem to be a particularly long jump of logic to arrive at
the reasons why that number seems artificially high WildKatt. The British supposedly
removed the then-current King for having the poor taste to goblinize into a troll - in a
caste-conscious society like India, merely showing to the world that your family line is
so "weak" that it can't breed "true" has economic and political
consequences far beyond what you might expect to see in the UCAS or CAS in a similar
situation.
(>) Asmodeus
Message no. 10
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 04:34:10 +0200
This corporate haven re-emerged in 2012 after the collapse of China. Controlled and ruled
by the various corporations, there is very little in the way of law, either corporate or
civil. This doesn't mean that Hong Kong is a haven for crime; the corporations jealosly
protect themselves, with a side-affect of this being a relatively low violent crime rate.
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(>) Leaves plenty of room for non-violent crime, though. Hong-Kong is a prime runners
market, and it's a lot easier to fit in than in mainland China. The problem with Hong
Kond is that it's small and isolated, and run by the Corps. If you're running independent
here and you frag up, you'l probably die alone in some dark rat-infested sewer, hiding
from the corp police.
(>) Frisk
Message no. 11
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:44:53 +0200
Very little is known about this underdeveloped nation at this time. It is generally
assumed that very little has changed in the past 70 years, aside from independence from
China.
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(>) Sorry, boyo, quite a lot has changed if I've heard correctly. Supposedly, a
political order called the Sons of the Tiger or some such drek became fairly prominent in
Ulan Bator back in '49. The Sons want to make Mongolia a khanate again; rumor has it,
they're gaining a lot of popular support. I guess the Mongolians like the idea of becoming
a major Asian power again. My friend Gutterlark (the source of all this info) says that a
potential Khan--a troll named Oghatai or sumthin'--has been nominated by the Sons.
(>) Witchfinder
Message no. 12
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:53:27 +0200
(>) Sorry, boyo, quite a lot has changed if I've heard correctly. Supposedly, a
political order called the Sons of the Tiger or some such drek became fairly prominent in
Ulan Bator back in '49. The Sons want to make Mongolia a khanate again; rumor has it,
they're gaining a lot of popular support. I guess the Mongolians like the idea of becoming
a major Asian power again. My friend Gutterlark (the source of all this info) says that a
potential Khan--a troll named Oghatai or sumthin'--has been nominated by the Sons.
(>) Witchfinder
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(>) I don't know if Witchfinder's information is truth or not, but I do know this for a
fact: relations are strained between Mongolia, Persia/Iran, Kazakhstan, and a couple of
the Chinese states.
(>) The All-Seeing Eye
Message no. 13
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:07:36 +0200
(>) Ok, technically this ain't a decker comment, oh NERPS people, but to check out
Australia get your butts over to the <a href
Message no. 14
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:17:22 +0200
See Paradise Lost.
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(>) Ahhh, beautiful land of surf, sun, fun, and Trogs! If there's any place where it's
VERY hazardous to your health to be a Humanis Policlubber, this is it. When a third of
the population can bench press buildings, you tend to think twice about racial slurs.
(>) Benny the Trog
Message no. 15
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:25:37 +0200
(>) Ahhh, beautiful land of surf, sun, fun, and Trogs! If there's any place where it's
VERY hazardous to your health to be a Humanis Policlubber, this is it. When a third of
the population can bench press buildings, you tend to think twice about racial slurs.
(>) Benny the Trog
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(>) Don't be so sure of yourself Benny. Unfortunately, some members of Humanis tend to
view areas Like Hawai'i as a bit of a challenge, and try all the harder the get in. There
are several different underground organizations that have a strong foothold in the Islands
that would like to see you roasting over a bon fire for what you are. Sadly enough, not
all of the bigots are human. Seems there's some elves out there that don't like being
outnumbered so badly. Watch your back Benny, my man.
(>) Rebel
Message no. 16
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 14:30:44 +0200
(>) Don't be so sure of yourself Benny. Unfortunately, some members of Humanis tend to
view areas Like Hawai'i as a bit of a challenge, and try all the harder the get in. There
are several different underground organizations that have a strong foothold in the Islands
that would like to see you roasting over a bon fire for what you are. Sadly enough, not
all of the bigots are human. Seems there's some elves out there that don't like being
outnumbered so badly. Watch your back Benny, my man.
(>) Rebel
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(>) Hey Rebel, sounds like you know a few things. If you're interested in making a few
cred, swing by La Maison D'Indochine next week and we'll talk biz. Ask the bartender for
me.
(>) Benny the Trog
Message no. 17
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: NAGTTW_Comment(antarctica-asia.txt)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:13:09 +0200
(>) Add the Awakened creatures from Chinese legends, a small monastery on every hilltop
preaching some obscure branch of the Buddhist faith, and seventeen-dozen sifus claiming to
have the only
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(>) Isn't there Geomancers in China these days?
(>) The Neo-Iconoclast

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