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Message no. 1
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: New Stuff
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:29:45 EST
O.k. I'm new to this list so I'll be brief. When is the next planned
Running Gear type document planned to be out? Also, same question for
Plastic Warroirs. Or are these compilements sporadic? Just wonderin'


Gweedo the Killer Pimp strikes again!
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:55:14 +0100
Gweedo The Killer Pimp said on 1:29/16 Mar 97...

> O.k. I'm new to this list so I'll be brief. When is the next planned
> Running Gear type document planned to be out? Also, same question for
> Plastic Warroirs. Or are these compilements sporadic? Just wonderin'

PW and NERPS are _not_ related in any way, except that I edit both. I can
see how that can lead to confusion, so let's get it straightened out:

* NERPS books/files are written on this list, by members posting articles
to it that relate to the topic for the current NERPS book (ATM, that's
the Neo-Anarchists' Guide To The World).I then compile all that into a
book.

* PW books/files get made up of whatever I find on the net and/or what
gets sent to me, about virtually any topic. I then compile all that into a
book.

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Message no. 3
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:19:05 EST
Gurth Figured:
>PW and NERPS are _not_ related in any way, except that I edit both. I
>can
>see how that can lead to confusion, so let's get it straightened out:
------
Oh I knew that they were different, I've got both, I just wanted to know
when and if they might be getting out on the net. If you edit both, (I
knew I got your name from somewhere.) Good job, I hope you keep up the
good work.
---------
>* NERPS books/files are written on this list, by members posting
>articles
>to it that relate to the topic for the current NERPS book (ATM, that's
>the Neo-Anarchists' Guide To The World).I then compile all that into a
>book.
--------
What's ATM(don't worry, I'm writing this down so I don't forget it.), Who
made the NERPS ad in Shadowbeat? Also, who likes Primus?
-------
>* PW books/files get made up of whatever I find on the net and/or what
>gets sent to me, about virtually any topic. I then compile all that
>into a
>book.
>
>--
Good work, good job, and good stuff.
l

Gweedo the Killer Pimp strikes again!
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:39:50 -0500
At 10:19 AM 3/16/97 EST, Gweedo The Killer Pimp wrote these timeless words:
>What's ATM(don't worry, I'm writing this down so I don't forget it.), Who
>made the NERPS ad in Shadowbeat? Also, who likes Primus?
>
ATM Mean At the Moment, or, occasionally, Automatic Teller Machine, where
you can use a bank card to withdraw money from a savings or checking
account. But I think Gurth meant At the Moment...:]:]:]

As for the Nerps Ad... Nerps are a generic wonder product that is (more or
less) from 1st ed. Shadowrun. It never said exactly what they were, just
gave out little ads on occasion for them. Nerps could do anything. And
they outdate this list by a couple years, I belive... (I could be wrong
here, but I think I'm not)...

Anyways, this list was named after the SR Product, and stands for (As you
can see in the header of mail from here) Net Enhancements for Role-PLaying
Shadowrun.

As for Primus, well... This isn't really a discussion list for those
things, that's what ShadowRn and the [OT] header are for...:]

But Primus is not my style... I prefer classic Rock...

Bull

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Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:20:31 +0100
Gweedo The Killer Pimp said on 10:19/16 Mar 97...

> Oh I knew that they were different, I've got both, I just wanted to know
> when and if they might be getting out on the net. If you edit both, (I
> knew I got your name from somewhere.) Good job, I hope you keep up the
> good work.

Thanks :)

> What's ATM(don't worry, I'm writing this down so I don't forget it.),

Like Bull said, it means At The Moment. You're pretty new to email, aren't
you?

> Who made the NERPS ad in Shadowbeat?

FASA did. NERPS, in early Shadowrun products, is a sort of generic cure
for everything, from sore feet to nuclear war (the ad in Shadowbeat is a
really good example), and the list was named after it. I think Rob Hayden
was responsible, but it was before my time (i.e. more than 3 years ago).

> Also, who likes Primus?

I've heard two or three of their songs, and I think My Name Is Mud is the
best of those... Probably whoever wrote that ad like{s|d} Primus, like
some of the artists including references to their favorite bands in the
drawings (Queensryche logos, for example).

And from his other message:

> Has anybody ever noticed(This is in America, I don't know about the
> Euro runners) that Gangsta' Rap, and Country and Western, aren't really
> the dominant music genres. When I play Shadowrun with my friends,
> usually Van Halen, NIN, or other rock bands are what we hear.

You've hit another one of my favorite rant topics :)

C&W is something that's very unlikely to get played in Europe. Gangsta rap
a lot more, mostly by people who want to be cool (and 75% of them won't
even know what the songs are actually about...).

I can't speak for anyone else, but I just put on whatever I like or
happens to be in my CD player, that can range from Simon & Garfunkel to
Lagwagon (who? take a look at www.fatwreck.com :) or anything else. If you
want to seriously discuss this, however, I suggest you take it over to
ShadowRN -- it's been a while since we had this thread :)

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I am my own parasite.
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Message no. 6
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:10:00 EST
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:20:31 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>Thanks :)
----
I like to complement people on good work :^)
-------
Like Bull said, it means At The Moment. You're pretty new to email,
>aren't
>you?
------
Sort of, I'm new to mailing lists.
------
And now for something completely different:

Are there any good ninja weapons, say nunchukus, throwing stars (probably
in a book), grappling hooks, chains, and other assorted weapon that could
be linked to the black arts? I'm trying to make an immigrant character
and this would help severely. Thanx


Now using Gweedo the Killer Pimp ver. 3.1 sporting such features as:
A poleyester leisure suit, platform shoes, a pink cadillac, fuzzy dice,
and a gold tooth!
Message no. 7
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:30:04 GMT
Bull writes

> >What's ATM(don't worry, I'm writing this down so I don't forget it.),
Asynocronous Transfer Mode, oh multiple things with the same acronym.

> > Who
> >made the NERPS ad in Shadowbeat? Also, who likes Primus?
> >
>
> As for the Nerps Ad... Nerps are a generic wonder product that is (more or
> less) from 1st ed. Shadowrun. It never said exactly what they were, just
> gave out little ads on occasion for them. Nerps could do anything. And
> they outdate this list by a couple years, I belive... (I could be wrong
> here, but I think I'm not)...
>
> Anyways, this list was named after the SR Product, and stands for (As you
> can see in the header of mail from here) Net Enhancements for Role-PLaying
> Shadowrun.
>
As to it's use by FASA, rumor has it thats NEPRS also stands for
'Nothing Ever Really Pleases Steve/Scott', these being two FASA
employee's, though i have never seen a FASA comment on this one it
was supposedly used in the FASA offices at some point in the past,
maybe still is.

Mark
Message no. 8
From: Matt Breton <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 07:52:11 -0800
> Are there any good ninja weapons, say nunchukus, throwing stars (probably in a book),
grappling hooks, chains, and other assorted weapon that could be linked to the black arts?
I'm trying to make an immigrant character and this would help severely. Thanx

Gweed, shuriken *are* covered in the Basic Black. The rest is pretty up
in the air. You can hack numbers/damage pretty easily (using clubs for
nunchukus, polearms for tetsubo, ad naus) but the more interesting
properties - disarming with a chain, and so forth, get overlooked.
(But then again, take a look at the martial arts system...)

To be honest.. Unarmed Combat usually gets replaced with a specific
style of martial arts (ncluding boxing, wrestling, and Cybercombat) in
my campaigns. Otherwise, if you don't have an implant, you concentrate
and instant +2..

.. or maybe the thought is that 'natural' is better in this case?


-Matt
Message no. 9
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 05:15:11 -0700
At 07:52 3/18/97 -0800, you wrote:
<snippy snippy>

>(But then again, take a look at the martial arts system...)
>
>To be honest.. Unarmed Combat usually gets replaced with a specific
>style of martial arts (ncluding boxing, wrestling, and Cybercombat) in
>my campaigns. Otherwise, if you don't have an implant, you concentrate
>and instant +2..

Gurth, I'm stealing some bandwidth for a Plug! If you don't like it, too
late :)

<plug!>
The Shadowrun Supplemental Issue #2, which is do out next month, has some
of the best martial arts rules I've ever seen! (gawd..what a horrible
sentence.)
Http://shadowrun.home.ml.org
</plug!>

-Adam
Message no. 10
From: "Paolo Falco, Explorer" <Falco@****.IT>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:29:04 +0100
16 Mar 97, 16:39, on the downward time curve to Armageddon, Bull
said:

> At 10:19 AM 3/16/97 EST, Gweedo The Killer Pimp wrote these timeless words:

> >What's ATM(don't worry, I'm writing this down so I don't forget it.), Who
> >made the NERPS ad in Shadowbeat? Also, who likes Primus?
>
> ATM Mean At the Moment, or, occasionally, Automatic Teller Machine, where
> you can use a bank card to withdraw money from a savings or checking
> account. But I think Gurth meant At the Moment...:]:]:]

Hey it also means "Azienda Tramviaria Municipale", or "Municipal
Tramway Company". That was the older name of the company who ran
public transports here in Torino. Now it is called "TT", or "Trsporti
Torinesi" which means "Turin Transports". Just thought you'd be
mighty interested :)

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Message no. 11
From: Mulder <agable@******.LHUP.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:00:00 -0500
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Gweedo The Killer Pimp wrote:

[Like that name, BTW]


> Are there any good ninja weapons, say nunchukus, throwing stars (probably
> in a book), grappling hooks, chains, and other assorted weapon that could
> be linked to the black arts? I'm trying to make an immigrant character
> and this would help severely. Thanx

A good resource on Ninja weapons and such is the "Complete Ninja
Handbook", put out by our friends at T$R. Yeah, I know what you're
saying, and normally I refuse to feed my hard-earned cash into the immense
money-making machine that is T$R, but it's a really cool book, detailing
weapons, ninja spells (mostly minor cloaking and disguise spells, good for
Rat Shamans IMHO), and the ninja mindset.

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Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New Stuff
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:11:21 +0100
Mark Steedman said on 11:30/18 Mar 97...

> As to it's use by FASA, rumor has it thats NEPRS also stands for
> 'Nothing Ever Really Pleases Steve/Scott', these being two FASA
> employee's, though i have never seen a FASA comment on this one it
> was supposedly used in the FASA offices at some point in the past,
> maybe still is.

It does not stand for Nothing Ever Really Pleases Steve/Scott. I don't
know what it does stand for, but Mike made an off-hand remark once that
that's not it.

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