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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Rats!
Date:	Thu, 9 May 1996 13:12:57 +0100

Message no. 1 GKoth2258@***.com said on 13:53/ 8 May 96...

> Sorry, Gurth, but you really are the only person on this list...no one else
> here, nope. No one but us here...uh...no one but us here rats! Yeah! No
> one but us here rats! And, uh, we aren't subscribed or anything...

Then who is this? A figment of my imagination?

And anyway, I hold the opinion that rats can write really good SR
material, if they would just set their minds to it...

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From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Fri, 10 May 1996 13:02:25 -0400

Message no. 2 >Then who is this? A figment of my imagination?

>And anyway, I hold the opinion that rats can write really good SR
>material, if they would just set their minds to it...

Hey, this rat is going to be published in Shadowland magazine, so you might
be right...

I've got some stuff on those nasty hormones, but I'll wait until I know more
people are back on the list, so I can get some feedback.

The Great Big Extra Sharp Cheddar

From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Sat, 11 May 1996 11:26:03 +0100

Message no. 3 GKoth2258@***.com said on 13:02/10 May 96...

> >And anyway, I hold the opinion that rats can write really good SR
> >material, if they would just set their minds to it...
>
> Hey, this rat is going to be published in Shadowland magazine, so you might
> be right...

I'm staill waiting for a reply to the stuff I sent in about a month ago...

> I've got some stuff on those nasty hormones, but I'll wait until I know more
> people are back on the list, so I can get some feedback.

Are you sure there's hardly anybody left on the list? If that's the case,
maybe we should point this out on ShadowRN, so anybody who's not aware of
being unsubscribed can get back on.

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From:	"Patrick A. Mullins" <pmullins@****.net>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Sat, 11 May 1996 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT)

Message no. 4 On Sat, 11 May 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Are you sure there's hardly anybody left on the list? If that's the case,

It sure seems like that to me, but I just sub'ed recently.

Patrick Mullins---><---pmullins@****.net

From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Sat, 11 May 1996 18:52:45 -0400

Message no. 5 You sent something in to Shadowland Gurth? Don't worry about the lack of a
reply. You probably won't get word on acceptance until they are almost ready
to publish that issue. That means the stuff you sent last month probably
won't be heard from for another few months, when Issue #4 is about due.
That's asuming they don't need any changes or anything...

So what did you send?

Yeah, tell RN about it. Some people probably just think the list went quiet
again.

The Great Big Extra Sharp Cheddar

From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Sun, 12 May 1996 11:45:36 +0100

Message no. 6 Patrick A. Mullins said on 13:56/11 May 96...

> > Are you sure there's hardly anybody left on the list? If that's the case,
>
> It sure seems like that to me, but I just sub'ed recently.

Then I guess it's a party of three here at the moment :)

(I haven't checked the list of subscribers, though.)

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Sun, 12 May 1996 11:45:36 +0100

Message no. 7 GKoth2258@***.com said on 18:52/11 May 96...

> You sent something in to Shadowland Gurth? Don't worry about the lack of a
> reply. You probably won't get word on acceptance until they are almost ready
> to publish that issue. That means the stuff you sent last month probably
> won't be heard from for another few months, when Issue #4 is about due.

I'm still waiting for #3 that was supposed to have come out a month ago...

> That's asuming they don't need any changes or anything...
>
> So what did you send?

Some contacts (all former shadowrunners -- I wonder if they'll accept the
gang-member-turned-ghost :) plus some rules to expand theProfessionality
Ratings' realism.

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From:	TENSEN2@***.com
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 1996 10:58:44 -0400

Message no. 8 In a message dated 96-05-12 05:46:55 EDT, you write:

>Then I guess it's a party of three here at the moment :)
>
>

Make it four. But I didn't see the need to do anything but lurk before. I
was somehow dumped off the list a few weeks back. Wonder if everyone else
was too.

Shatterfist

From:	"Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 1996 16:37:04 GMT

Message no. 9 > From: TENSEN2@***.com
>
> >Then I guess it's a party of three here at the moment :)
> >
> >
>
> Make it four. But I didn't see the need to do anything but lurk before. I
> was somehow dumped off the list a few weeks back. Wonder if everyone else
> was too.
>
> Shatterfist
>
Well i thought it had got a bit quiet, but am now back. What has been
going on as i saw some posts on a thread about copyright but without
the start of the thread they make no sense.
As Gurth posted it looks like everyone got dumped, probably more than
once.

How is NEPRS shadowlore 2 doing?
what projects are actually progressing at the moment? (not just in
the FAQ)

Mark

From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 1996 09:51:04 -0600 (MDT)

Message no. 10 Mark Steedman wrote:
|
|> From: TENSEN2@***.com
|>
|> >Then I guess it's a party of three here at the moment :)
|>
|> Make it four. But I didn't see the need to do anything but lurk before. I
|> was somehow dumped off the list a few weeks back. Wonder if everyone else
|> was too.
|>
|Well i thought it had got a bit quiet, but am now back. What has been
|going on as i saw some posts on a thread about copyright but without
|the start of the thread they make no sense.
|As Gurth posted it looks like everyone got dumped, probably more than
|once.
|
|How is NEPRS shadowlore 2 doing?
|what projects are actually progressing at the moment? (not just in
|the FAQ)

Ditto that. I didn't even realize that I had gotten dumped until Gurth said
something (thanks BTW). I'm not to interested in the copywrite debate, but
I would like to see the original source material that it refers to. Any
chance the owner could repost it in a few days (to give other people a
chance to come back on-line)?

-David

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From:	Paolo Falco <Falco@****.it>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 96 22:31:07 +0200

Message no. 11 >> Make it four.

Five?
And not to repeat the error I did in the ShadowRN list, what am I supposed
as a new subscriber ABSOLUTELY no to do? :)
Any info about what to do would be welcome too :)

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From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 1996 17:02:57 -0400

Message no. 12 Actually, #3 was supposed to be out right about now. If you've got something
in it, then you should have been notified (with the legal stuff) a few weeks
ago. I was. Further, you can check the home page for Sword of the Knight to
see the "Table of Contents." And even further, if you did have an article
accepted, then you should recieve a copy of the mag for yourself (I'm still
waiting).

Kevin Knight's operation is rather small, so patience is an operative word
when dealing with Sword of the Knight.

Another thing to remember is that, unless I'm mistaken, everything published
by Shadowland has to be approved by FASA. At least, that was what I recall
being told by a nameless someone.

Anyway, it looks like people are filtering back on. I'll post my hormone
material in a day or two.

The Great Big Extra Sharp Cheddar

From:	"Patrick A. Mullins" <pmullins@****.net>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Tue, 14 May 1996 23:57:33 -0400

Message no. 13 At 10:31 PM 5/14/96 +0200, Paolo Falco wrote:
>
>>> Make it four.
>
>Five?
>And not to repeat the error I did in the ShadowRN list, what am I supposed
>as a new subscriber ABSOLUTELY no to do? :)

Heh. What did you do on the ShadowRN list?

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Wed, 15 May 1996 11:27:35 +0100

Message no. 14 GKoth2258@***.com said on 17:02/14 May 96...

> Actually, #3 was supposed to be out right about now.

Make that about a month ago, according to the release schedule in the
front of the other issues. But, as you say, it's a small business so I
don't expect them to bring out everything exactly on the projected date.
Hell, FASA doesn't either :)

> If you've got something
> in it, then you should have been notified (with the legal stuff) a few weeks
> ago. I was. Further, you can check the home page for Sword of the Knight to
> see the "Table of Contents." And even further, if you did have an article
> accepted, then you should recieve a copy of the mag for yourself (I'm still
> waiting).

None of the above (yet). If it gets accepted, I think it'll be at least #4
before it goes in. If it makes it through FASA, unlike my previous
attempt.

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Wed, 15 May 1996 11:27:35 +0100

Message no. 15 Mark Steedman said on 16:37/14 May 96...

> How is NEPRS shadowlore 2 doing?
> what projects are actually progressing at the moment? (not just in
> the FAQ)

I asked J.D. about SL2, specifically whether he needed help finishing it.
He said he'd continue with it as soon as his RL workload dropped a bit, so
I guss we can expect it somewhere in the future.

The only project goign at the moment is Underworld. There have been ideas
flying around for the NEXT book, but don't start that over again until
Underworld is done, OK?

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From:	Paolo Falco <Falco@****.it>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Wed, 15 May 96 18:16:53 +0200

Message no. 16 At 11:57 PM 5/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>At 10:31 PM 5/14/96 +0200, Paolo Falco wrote:
>>And not to repeat the error I did in the ShadowRN list, what am I supposed
>>as a new subscriber ABSOLUTELY no to do? :)
>
>Heh. What did you do on the ShadowRN list?

I think I expressed my opinions a little too freely for a new subscriber. I
also lacked netiquette when asking for flames to be sent at my own address.
I also had the bad luck of finding someone that found it all inexcusable.
I am now in search of redemption by climbing longs stairs on my knees while
fustigating myself :) Oh, what the heck! :)

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From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Wed, 15 May 1996 13:14:28 -0600 (MDT)

Message no. 17 Paolo Falco wrote:
|
|At 11:57 PM 5/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
|>At 10:31 PM 5/14/96 +0200, Paolo Falco wrote:
|>>And not to repeat the error I did in the ShadowRN list, what am I supposed
|>>as a new subscriber ABSOLUTELY no to do? :)
|>
|>Heh. What did you do on the ShadowRN list?
|
|I think I expressed my opinions a little too freely for a new subscriber. I
|also lacked netiquette when asking for flames to be sent at my own address.
|I also had the bad luck of finding someone that found it all inexcusable.
|I am now in search of redemption by climbing longs stairs on my knees while
|fustigating myself :) Oh, what the heck! :)

One person does not represent the views of the entire list :)

-David

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From:	Paolo Falco <Falco@****.it>
Subject:	Re: Rats!
Date:	Wed, 15 May 96 22:30:45 +0200

Message no. 18 At 01:14 PM 5/15/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Paolo Falco wrote:
>[large cut of my horobol mistakes :)]
>
>One person does not represent the views of the entire list :)
>
>-David

*WHEW!!!* :) Happy to see someone's still reasonable :) However, what am I
supposed to do/not to do here? :) :) :)

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