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Message no. 1
From: Calvin Hsieh <u2172778@*******.ACSU.UNSW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:13:31 +1100
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 Erik_Jameson@*****.COM wrote:

> RE> Minnesota Info
> To Net Enhancements for Roleplaying Shadowrun<NERPS@********.itribe.net>
>
>
> Would someone please tell me where this crappy info for the
> Shadowrun Explorer comes from? Everything I have read from
> it is nonsense! Room-temperature plasma cannons? And
> that's just the most ludicrous of the bunch! Whoever
> entered all the info into the Explorer (which is a great
> idea, just poor data) needs to be hurt badly. There is some
> really lame stuff there.
>
Yes, I noticed the same thing with most Net SR stuff. What I suggest is
to read them with a big red marking pen to obliterate anything ludicrous!
So far, the NERPS articles have been quite good though, unlike the other
stuff. You have to remember that there are people out there with
overactive imaginations and without the cognitive abilities to
contemplate over the possibility (read against SR ideals and ideas) that
their idea is hopelessly wrong!

Shaman

> Erik
> ------------------------------
> Date: 10/30/96 0:21 AM
> To: Jameson, Erik
> From: Net Enhancements for Roleplayi
>
>
Message no. 2
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:26:34 +1000
> > Would someone please tell me where this crappy info for the
> > Shadowrun Explorer comes from? Everything I have read from
> > it is nonsense! Room-temperature plasma cannons? And
> > that's just the most ludicrous of the bunch! Whoever
> > entered all the info into the Explorer (which is a great
> > idea, just poor data) needs to be hurt badly. There is some
> > really lame stuff there.
> >
> Yes, I noticed the same thing with most Net SR stuff. What I suggest is
> to read them with a big red marking pen to obliterate anything ludicrous!
> So far, the NERPS articles have been quite good though, unlike the other
> stuff. You have to remember that there are people out there with
> overactive imaginations and without the cognitive abilities to
> contemplate over the possibility (read against SR ideals and ideas) that
> their idea is hopelessly wrong!
>
A very nice, eloquent flame of the majority of SR Net posters... I agree
totally... The NERPS stuff has to be among the best I've found.

Hey Paolo, how receptive would you be to someone cutting some of the more
offensive items from the SR timeline used in the Explorer? So far I want
to cut some sutff about Australia, and people have also complained about
Minneapolis... There is also a lot of trivia not found in the
sourcebooks that most people wouldn't want to know unless it was included
specifically in their campaign.

Bleach
Message no. 3
From: Paolo Marcucci <paolo@*********.IT>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:26:27 +0100
At 22:26 30/10/96 +1000, you wrote:
>A very nice, eloquent flame of the majority of SR Net posters... I agree
>totally... The NERPS stuff has to be among the best I've found.

I wholeheartedly agree :)

>Hey Paolo, how receptive would you be to someone cutting some of the more
>offensive items from the SR timeline used in the Explorer? So far I want
>to cut some sutff about Australia, and people have also complained about
>Minneapolis... There is also a lot of trivia not found in the
>sourcebooks that most people wouldn't want to know unless it was included
>specifically in their campaign.

AFAIK, the whole data come from published works, sourcebooks or novels. If
John Maniha (the data collector :) added some other info, you should
contact him directly at jmaniha@***.com

The whole idea of the explorer is to get all the facts contained in the
shadowrun timeline (available from a looong time now) and use a query
interface to simpilfy searches. I don't even think i checked all the facts :)

Bye, Paolo
Message no. 4
From: Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:01:18 -0800
> From owner-nerps@********.ITRIBE.NET Wed Oct 30 01:14 PST 1996
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:13:31 +1100
> From: Calvin Hsieh <u2172778@*******.ACSU.UNSW.EDU.AU>
> Subject: Shadowrun Explorer
> To: NERPS@********.ITRIBE.NET
>
> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 Erik_Jameson@*****.COM wrote:
>
> > RE> Minnesota Info
> > To Net Enhancements for Roleplaying Shadowrun<NERPS@********.itribe.net>
> >
> >
> > Would someone please tell me where this crappy info for the
> > Shadowrun Explorer comes from? Everything I have read from
> > it is nonsense! Room-temperature plasma cannons? And
> > that's just the most ludicrous of the bunch! Whoever
> > entered all the info into the Explorer (which is a great
> > idea, just poor data) needs to be hurt badly. There is some
> > really lame stuff there.
> >
> Yes, I noticed the same thing with most Net SR stuff. What I suggest is
> to read them with a big red marking pen to obliterate anything ludicrous!
> So far, the NERPS articles have been quite good though, unlike the other
> stuff. You have to remember that there are people out there with
> overactive imaginations and without the cognitive abilities to
> contemplate over the possibility (read against SR ideals and ideas) that
> their idea is hopelessly wrong!
>
> Shaman
>

It's always been my policy to take EVERYTHING from the net with a horse sized
grain of salt. Just remember where this stuff is comming from, how many of us
have had a dumb idea every once in a while? How many of us have gamed with
people with more dumb ideas than our own? Now apply that percentage to the mob
of people on-line. Also consider than a lot of stuff comes straight from the
creator's head to his webpage with out any objective, third or fourth party
feed-back (unlike the majority of the NERPS stuff).

Of course there IS the GM's golden rule: If YOU don't like it in your
game...CHANGE IT.

-Zim
Message no. 5
From: Peter <wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:19:04 -0600
>
>Hey Paolo, how receptive would you be to someone cutting some of the more
>offensive items from the SR timeline used in the Explorer? So far I want
>to cut some sutff about Australia, and people have also complained about
>Minneapolis... There is also a lot of trivia not found in the
>sourcebooks that most people wouldn't want to know unless it was included
>specifically in their campaign.
>
>Bleach


I have no strong feelings about the "Timeline" info. It's a good place to start
out, making alterations (or massive cuts) where needed.

Piatro
Message no. 6
From: Peter <wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Explorer
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:23:34 -0600
Paolo wrote:

>At 22:26 30/10/96 +1000, you wrote:
>>A very nice, eloquent flame of the majority of SR Net posters... I agree
>>totally... The NERPS stuff has to be among the best I've found.
>
>I wholeheartedly agree :)
>
>>Hey Paolo, how receptive would you be to someone cutting some of the more
>>offensive items from the SR timeline used in the Explorer? So far I want
>>to cut some sutff about Australia, and people have also complained about
>>Minneapolis... There is also a lot of trivia not found in the
>>sourcebooks that most people wouldn't want to know unless it was included
>>specifically in their campaign.
>
>AFAIK, the whole data come from published works, sourcebooks or novels. If
>John Maniha (the data collector :) added some other info, you should
>contact him directly at jmaniha@***.com
>

[snip]

Has anyone contacted Mr Maniha about this. I don't want to flood his
mailbox with individual requests from each NERPS listmember, but if we
should know what in the timeline is "official" and what is his creation.

If no one else has made these inquiries I'll do it.

Just let me know.


Piatro

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