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Message no. 1
From: Les Ward <wordman@*******.COM>
Subject: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:44:01 -0500
Not really an article submission yet, more of an idea.

It seems logical to me that it would be both trivial and useful for the
Japanese Empire to set up an African colony. In a campaign I ran a while
ago, I used this idea as "filler" for News Intelligencer stories,
indicating the Japanese occupation of Somalia. (At the time, Somalia was in
the news a lot, and I just like saying Mogadishu.)

I'm thinking of writing up a short item about this for the world book. Does
the idea sound plausible? Does it sound fun?

Wordman
Message no. 2
From: Steven Goodman <chromblaster@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:54:54 PDT
>Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:44:01 -0500
>From: Les Ward <wordman@*******.COM>

<snip: japanese colony in africa - somalia>

sounds good to me. I think it's quite realistic to assume that an Empire
like Japan will be looking for a chance to expand, especially if it
get's access to another continent...
But I think it will be quite difficult to defend that colony, since
Japan is very far away, the native africans are fierce fighters and
suffered long enough under oppression by the white...
They don't need no japanese gouvernment...(and don't want one either)

But then this open's a whole new playground for our mercenaries and co.



Chrome

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Message no. 3
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:05:17 -0400
At 10:44 AM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Not really an article submission yet, more of an idea.
>
>It seems logical to me that it would be both trivial and useful for the
>Japanese Empire to set up an African colony. In a campaign I ran a while
>ago, I used this idea as "filler" for News Intelligencer stories,
>indicating the Japanese occupation of Somalia. (At the time, Somalia was in
>the news a lot, and I just like saying Mogadishu.)

Yeah, Mogadishu just *sounds* like something Beavis would repeat
incessantly as the Great Cornholio...cool...

Interesting concept. It makes some sense, as there are likely to be
various Japanacorps in Africa and they would certainly demand some sort of
military presence.

I should think that the Japanese would have some sort of strategic military
base, perhaps outside Mogadishu. A large kill zone around the base.
Secured airport and docks. And the rest of the region left to chaos. What
the frag do the Japanese care about some tribals? There purpose is
military support of their beloved national corporations, Fuchi, Renraku,
Mitsuham, Shiawase and Yamatetsu.

Erik J.
Message no. 4
From: Sasquatch <ab130f92@*******.ADELPHI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:42:00 -0400
At 14:05 5/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
[SNIP]
> There purpose is
>military support of their beloved national corporations, Fuchi,

You not keeping up Erik? Ain't no Fuchi to support no more. See "Blood in
the Boardroom" Shadowrun 7327. Fuchi imploded.


Sasquatch

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Message no. 5
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 17:55:15 -0400
At 05:42 PM 5/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 14:05 5/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>[SNIP]
>> There purpose is
>>military support of their beloved national corporations, Fuchi,
>
>You not keeping up Erik? Ain't no Fuchi to support no more. See "Blood in
>the Boardroom" Shadowrun 7327. Fuchi imploded.

Actually, according to the timeline it hasn't imploded yet. As of May
2059, the only event is the moving of Yamatetsu. So Fuchi is still a
beloved national corporation. This time next year (or rather, in 2060), it
won't be.

But that's enough without having to add spoilers in.

And I'm totally aware of the situation; I'm coordinating the entire
plotline for ShadowTK. I'm the one that has to maintain the FASA timeline
with TK, and keep TK up-to-date and aware.

Erik J.


"Oh, the silent helicopters and the men in black fatigues? They're just my
car pool to work."
Message no. 6
From: Wordman <wordman@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:47:13 -0400
>But I think it will be quite difficult to defend that colony, since
>Japan is very far away, the native africans are fierce fighters and
>suffered long enough under oppression by the white...
>They don't need no japanese gouvernment...(and don't want one either)

When I first thought of the idea, Somalia was in the news mostly because
everyone was starving. I figured Japan might have used a similar situation
(famine) to get invited to Somalia. You know "here, have all the food you
want, and, uh... don't mind those warships. They're a hedge. Move along."
This seems to be Japan's M.O. in several other places: use giving aid to
people who desperately need it, then just don't leave.

What's in it for Japan? Resources. Somalia may not have huge quanities of
natural resources, but it can certainly act as a stage for places in Africa
that do. Japan itself is somewhat lacking in natural resources.

As for distance, Somalia's not much furthur away from Japan than San
Fransisco is.

>But then this open's a whole new playground for our mercenaries and co.

Actually, I'd think Somalia would almost be a vacation for mercs compared
to the rest of Africa.

Wordman
Message no. 7
From: Fred Stoessel <Fred.Stoessel@*******.AI.FH-NUERNBERG.DE>
Subject: Re: Somalia
Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 13:36:07 +0200
It was Thu May 7 00:55:55 1998, when Wordman wrote:

>When I first thought of the idea, Somalia was in the news mostly because
>everyone was starving. I figured Japan might have used a similar situation
>(famine) to get invited to Somalia. You know "here, have all the food you
>want, and, uh... don't mind those warships. They're a hedge. Move along."
>This seems to be Japan's M.O. in several other places: use giving aid to
>people who desperately need it, then just don't leave.

My Malawi article deals with a similar problem. VITAS weakened the population of Malawi
and its army and so
it was a perfect oportunity for the south african renegades to invade the country.
Mitsuhama helped them by
providing intelligence and adding some corporate special troops to the invasion force. As
a reward MCT
became the only megacorp with the right to operate unrestricted in Malawi.
This happpened in 2011.

Maybe we can create a link between both events.

I'll try to post the first version of Malawi's history as soon as possible, so we have
something to discuss
about.


-Fred

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