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Message no. 1
From: Max Lietzen <mlietzen@*******.COM>
Subject: Something I came up with.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:48:32 CST
Could I get some comments and reactions on this before I go any further?

Bioware

BI Avail Street Cost
Body Thorns . 9 5/72hrs . 75 7,000K

Body Thorns are almost exactly what they describe: after the initial
five treatments, small buds appear just subdermally, and over a period
of several weeks, the buds push up and out of the skin in a very painful
manner, ultimately resulting in the entire body being covered in thorns.
These thorns continue to be painful for as long as the host lives, as
the thorns regenerate themselves if broken. Some bearers of the thorns
become used to the pain over time, but no sure way of preventing the
pain exists without resorting to a pain editor. (Does not come with
purchase.)

Game Effects
The thorns impart a +1 impact armor upon the user, and when in close
melee combat (grappled, punching) inflicts 5M damage upon the opponent.
The thorns also induce a permanent light mental wound upon the user.
However, after having had the thorns for a few months, the user may pay
5 Karma to “learn” the physical adept power of pain resistance at the
light wound level.

(>) I heard somewhere that these were popular with elves at one point,
but I don’t recall any such fashion trend. Can someone lend me a clue?
(>) Mortissimo

(>) I think that perhaps your friend was having a little joke at your
expense, young one.
(>) Harlequin


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Message no. 2
From: David Fallon <dfallon@****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Something I came up with.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:17:16 -0800
>Could I get some comments and reactions on this before I go any further?
>
>Bioware
>
> BI Avail Street Cost
>Body Thorns . 9 5/72hrs . 75 7,000K
>
>Body Thorns are almost exactly what they describe: after the initial
>five treatments, small buds appear just subdermally, and over a period
>of several weeks, the buds push up and out of the skin in a very painful
>manner, ultimately resulting in the entire body being covered in thorns.
>These thorns continue to be painful for as long as the host lives, as
>the thorns regenerate themselves if broken. Some bearers of the thorns
>become used to the pain over time, but no sure way of preventing the
>pain exists without resorting to a pain editor. (Does not come with
>purchase.)
>
>Game Effects
>The thorns impart a +1 impact armor upon the user, and when in close
>melee combat (grappled, punching) inflicts 5M damage upon the opponent.
>The thorns also induce a permanent light mental wound upon the user.
>However, after having had the thorns for a few months, the user may pay
>5 Karma to “learn” the physical adept power of pain resistance at the
>light wound level.


One would think there's also some sort of charisma penalty, plus a +x to
doing anything with your hands or feet (thorns out of 'em)? Perhaps you
should narrow down "the entire body" to the torso + arms and legs, but not
hands and feet?
Message no. 3
From: Psykotika <Psykotika@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Something I came up with.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:37:53 -0600
Game Effects
The thorns impart a +1 impact armor upon the user, and when in close
melee combat (grappled, punching) inflicts 5M damage upon the opponent.
The thorns also induce a permanent light mental wound upon the user.
However, after having had the thorns for a few months, the user may pay
5 Karma to "learn" the physical adept power of pain resistance at the
light wound level.
(>) I heard somewhere that these were popular with elves at one point,
but I don't recall any such fashion trend. Can someone lend me a clue?
(>) Mortissimo
(>) I think that perhaps your friend was having a little joke at your
expense, young one.
(>) Harlequin

(>) This would be good torture by forcing the implants on someone, and
keeping them locked up. The pain could drive them crazy. Also, do you
think you could get these with venom glands to poinson people?
(>) Psykotika
Message no. 4
From: "K. Dreamwalker" <dreamwalke@*******.CROSSWINDS.NET>
Subject: Re: Something I came up with.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:14:20 -0500
Game Effects
The thorns impart a +1 impact armor upon the user, and when in close
melee combat (grappled, punching) inflicts 5M damage upon the opponent.
The thorns also induce a permanent light mental wound upon the user.
However, after having had the thorns for a few months, the user may pay
5 Karma to "learn" the physical adept power of pain resistance at the
light wound level.
(>) I heard somewhere that these were popular with elves at one point,
but I don't recall any such fashion trend. Can someone lend me a clue?
(>) Mortissimo
(>) I think that perhaps your friend was having a little joke at your
expense, young one.
(>) Harlequin

(>) This would be good torture by forcing the implants on someone, and
keeping them locked up. The pain could drive them crazy. Also, do you
think you could get these with venom glands to poinson people?
(>) Psykotika


(>) Uh. I had a sammie friend who got the prototype- generation three, I
think. It was before they got the thorns of the palms and finger bottoms,
but after they got it so you wouldn't get them on your feet. It was hell for
him. Killed himself a week later.
(>) K. Dreamwalker
Message no. 5
From: James Kotz <nightlight@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Something I came up with.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:44:42 -0500
Max Lietzen wrote:
>
> Could I get some comments and reactions on this before I go any further?
>
>
> Game Effects
> The thorns impart a +1 impact armor upon the user, and when in close
> melee combat (grappled, punching) inflicts 5M damage upon the opponent.
> The thorns also induce a permanent light mental wound upon the user.
> However, after having had the thorns for a few months, the user may pay
> 5 Karma to “learn” the physical adept power of pain resistance at the
> light wound level.
>

Wouldn't this shred clothing?? Even an Armor Jacket would get messed
up,
and I don't feel like walking around in Security or Heavy Armor
everywhere
I go. If clothes aren't ruined, then how do the thorns add to grappling
damage through my armor?

How about instead of learning a phys-ad power, just make it a Body Test?
Like Body (4), 6 Months -1 Month per success?

How does the whole thing compare to Forearm Guards? FG are almost
undetectable, same armor, and usually higher damage; all for less nuyen,
and no Essense or Body Index.
Message no. 6
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Something I came up with.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:55:57 -0600
From: Max Lietzen
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 5:49 PM

>Could I get some comments and reactions on this before I go
>any further?

<snip description of the bioware>

Why on earth would anyone get this? I can't even think of a good reason
for the bad guys to do this to someone they don't like.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.

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