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From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Stuff
Date:	Fri, 23 Jul 1993 12:04:24 -0500

Message no. 1 This is just a call to action for everyone on the list.

Who's got stuff to submit and what is it? Please drop me a quick note
telling me what I can be expecting so that I can put it into the index.
Even if you don't have it done, just a quick note letting me know that it
will be coming would be helpful.

I'll be posting in a moment the submission for and the current INDEX of
submissions.

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From:	Dave The Shade <IZZYUX2@*******.BITNET>
Subject:	Stuff
Date:	Fri, 23 Jul 1993 16:23:00 PDT

Message no. 2 I got two new totems, three spell (CometStrike, Mirage, and an unamed spell)
and a weapon.

KHANx/David Altman

Will get them to you this weekend

From:	"Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:	Stuff
Date:	Thu, 9 Sep 1993 15:09:35 -0500

Message no. 3 I just sent out the INDEX of stuff.

NOTE!!!!! We still need someone to write up the Ogre and the Gnome.

As for the things I need to work on, I'll have some time this weekend to
get all of that done up.

Let's try to get all of the submissions in by October 1 so that we can get
the final product out of X-Mas.

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From:	Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject:	stuff
Date:	Wed, 7 Dec 1994 16:34:38 -0700

Message no. 4 hmmm - if I can hold of an account over christmas break - I will see about
writing up some magic stuff like spells and new meta-magic abilities and
ideas.

Nightfox

From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:59:10 -0400

Message no. 5 Got unsubscribed yourself, eh Gurth? You know, you are one of the few people
left that actually remembers me as "the Whistler..."

What exactly do we have for Underworld? Why don't we review what we have,
then we can toss around ideas as to how to finish it up. Or how to make it a
"chapter" in another project.

As far as a geographic project, doing the whole globe would just be too much.
If the list is insistent about doing something like that (which it seems to
be), then I have a suggestion. Pick a few select cites from around the world
that aren't likely to be the subject of a sourcebook any time soon, and run
with those cities.

These cities would have to be of interest to shadowrunners, obviously.
Cities like Singapore or Hong Kong (financial havens after all), maybe
somewhere in India, maybe Seoul, Korea, or Bejing, China. Maybe Egypt (which
I would claim now for my own writing turf), perhaps Italy (Paolo would be the
MAN for that). Hell, maybe even that haven of frogs, Paris.

Or hell, if we wanted to, we could do write-ups for places like Phoenix,
Arizona (now a part of Pueblo) and other such places that we would actually
know a great deal about, but yet haven't been written about.

As far as a Russia sourcebook, it's something I've thought long and hard
about. Potential problem. Russia is an integral part of the SR history (the
Eurowars and all). Getting around that could be a problem. Not to mention I
really don't think we should go heavy, at all, on ANY Earthdawn connections.
Dropping hints is as far as we should go with that. Second potential
problem. The Russia of NERPS would have to be largely one person's vision.
In order for all the seperate and disparate authors to be writing for the
same country, it would have to be decided what Russia is. How it got there.
In other words, a basic history that the entire list would have to agree on.
Just that might be difficult.

Sorry to rain on anyone's parade. I just want to make sure that whatever
this list does next, we go into it knowing exactly what it will entail,
instead of everyone going "Oh, that's a great idea!" and then watching the
idea die months later.

Erik

BTW, with friends like Eek!, who needs enemies?

From:	PDL@****.dacom.co.kr
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 96 09:00:04 PDT

Message no. 6 ---------------Original Message---------------
Pick a few select cites from around the world
that aren't likely to be the subject of a sourcebook any time soon, and run
with those cities.

These cities would have to be of interest to shadowrunners, obviously.
Cities like Singapore or Hong Kong (financial havens after all), maybe
somewhere in India, maybe Seoul, Korea, or Bejing, China. Maybe Egypt (which
I would claim now for my own writing turf), perhaps Italy (Paolo would be the
MAN for that). Hell, maybe even that haven of frogs, Paris.

Erik

BTW, with friends like Eek!, who needs enemies?

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I happen to live in Seoul, at least for the next couple of months. So, I have a technical
question, how do we put together a map for these cities. I have several maps of Seoul, but
how do you make the map. I think this is a crucial part of doing geographical source
books.

Patrick

From:	Bert Van de Merckt <Bert.VandeMerckt@****.be>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 03:42:21 +0200

Message no. 7 PDL@****.dacom.co.kr wrote:
>I happen to live in Seoul, at least for the next couple of months.
>So, I have a technical question, how do we put together a map for
>these cities. I have seve [snipped due to the long line]
> Patrick

are you able to scan it in (that map)? i believe it is very possible
to create a GIF file for everybody to use/view!
but another thing: can you give us some seoulian (sp) street, people,
bar, club, ... names?

kinda getting into it here :)

bert

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:41:37 +0100

Message no. 8 PDL@****.dacom.co.kr said on 18 Apr 96...

> I happen to live in Seoul, at least for the next couple of months. So,
> I have a technical question, how do we put together a map for these
> cities. I have several maps of Seoul, but how do you make he map. I
> think this is a crucial part of doing geographical source books.

Maps are easily possible. All that's needed for it is someone to draw
and/or scan them, after which they can be easily pasted into the NERPS
book. Word is great with these sorts of things :)

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:41:37 +0100

Message no. 9 GKoth2258@***.com said on 17 Apr 96...

> Got unsubscribed yourself, eh Gurth? You know, you are one of the few people
> left that actually remembers me as "the Whistler..."

LOL! Elle is right, I *am* old... :) (Maybe I should mention that I
thought about putting down list.member.grumpy, but settled on Whistler :)

> What exactly do we have for Underworld? Why don't we review what we have,
> then we can toss around ideas as to how to finish it up. Or how to make it a
> "chapter" in another project.

That's what I thought too. I'll re-post everything I have for Underworld
at the moment, so everybody can see what there is.

> These cities would have to be of interest to shadowrunners, obviously.
> Cities like Singapore or Hong Kong (financial havens after all), maybe
> somewhere in India, maybe Seoul, Korea, or Bejing, China. Maybe Egypt (which
> I would claim now for my own writing turf), perhaps Italy (Paolo would be the
> MAN for that). Hell, maybe even that haven of frogs, Paris.

Do we have any French people on the list? Anyway, I once did a write-up of
the Netherlands with the intention of sending it to the NAGEE. A year
later I revised it, with the same intention, but I never sent it in. I
might do a third revision and make it a NERPS submission. It's 20 or more
pages, I believe, so maybe I'll have to chop some things out of it...

> Or hell, if we wanted to, we could do write-ups for places like Phoenix,
> Arizona (now a part of Pueblo) and other such places that we would actually
> know a great deal about, but yet haven't been written about.

Didn't someone already do a Phoenix thing, in one of the NAGEEs?

BTW, there's one thing I want to make clear: I like to keep things
consistent with material that's already been published. Of course, with
net.publications that's never 100% possible, but I don't think it's a good
idea to do a write-up of *any* place that's already been covered in
reasonable depth somewhere else. So no Los Angeles (NAGEE1), Las Vegas
(also NAGEE1), North Bay (NAGEE2), Chambana IL (NAGEE3), and so on.

> As far as a Russia sourcebook, it's something I've thought long and hard
> about. Potential problem. Russia is an integral part of the SR history (the
> Eurowars and all). Getting around that could be a problem. Not to mention I
> really don't think we should go heavy, at all, on ANY Earthdawn connections.
> Dropping hints is as far as we should go with that.

My idea too. ED connections might be nice, but they should be kept vague,
like the news article in the back of the adventure A Killing Glare (what,
you didn't notice that? :)

> Second potential
> problem. The Russia of NERPS would have to be largely one person's vision.
> In order for all the seperate and disparate authors to be writing for the
> same country, it would have to be decided what Russia is. How it got there.
> In other words, a basic history that the entire list would have to agree on.
> Just that might be difficult.

Plus it would have to be written by someone who understands Russia and
knows a good deal about it. Someone who lives (or has lived) there would
be best, but I think we'll have a hard time finding any of those on this
list. (If there is someone fitting that description, don't hesitate to
speak up, however.)

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From:	PDL@****.dacom.co.kr
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 96 19:04:05 PDT

Message no. 10 ---------------Original Message---------------
PDL@****.dacom.co.kr said on 18 Apr 96...

Maps are easily possible. All that's needed for it is someone to draw
and/or scan them, after which they can be easily pasted into the NERPS
book. Word is great with these sorts of things :)

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I have access to a scanner that is not a problem. The problem lies in that my original is
like a car map <ie. larger than the scanner bed. Do I scan it in sections and paste it
together somehow? Any ideas?

Patrick

From:	PDL@****.dacom.co.kr
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 96 19:09:12 PDT

Message no. 11 ---------------Original Message---------------
Do we have any French people on the list? Anyway, I once did a write-up of
the Netherlands with the intention of sending it to the NAGEE. A year
later I revised it, with the same intention, but I never sent it in. I
might do a third revision and make it a NERPS submission. It's 20 or more
pages, I believe, so maybe I'll have to chop some things out of it...

Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
----------End of Original Message----------
Gurth, do not be hasty here! If you have 20 pages of good stuff, leave it.

Patrick

From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:30:57 -0400

Message no. 12 Hey Gurth, don't go start thinking you're the _only_ old man around here...

I've gone over the current submissions, and brought them down to MS Word 5.1,
to see how big they are. Using the New York font, the file ranges in size
from 32 pages in 9 point (what I use for everything) to 48.5 pages in 12
point (or what TEXT would be). If it stays in 12 point size, then the
addition of as few as 20 pages should be a minimum for keeping it stand
alone.

I figure when Gurth fleshs out his little story from it's current outline
state, we could add probable a page and a half to two pages more. But for
the rest, I have an idea of how to expand it out and make it big enough for
it's own net.book.

There has got to be more to underworld crime other than the Mafia, the Yaks,
the Seoulpas, and all the other racial mobsters. Smaller arms
smuggling/trading groups, drug runners, all sorts of organizations that would
be common in the shadows, but just don't get much "press." Detail a couple
of these (I have an idea for one involving a free spirit), write another
piece of fiction maybe. Sound like a plan?

BTW Gurth , thanks for the Edge Runners write-up.

Now, about a World project. First of all, I have little problem, personally,
with going over NAGEE territory. Personally, I found much of their material
to be rather poor. But that's just me, and it would likely be in very poor
taste for NERPS to cover NAGEE turf.

But that aside, what do we want to do with it? Let me put this an easier
way. Who wants to do what? I'll volunteer Cairo, Egypt, since I've got long
term plans for an official sourcebook on the Middle East. Gurth has stuff
for the Netherlands, and there's a person in Seoul who could write for that
area. Anybody else? I really do think either Singapore or Hong Kong should
be included. At 15-20 pages a section, we would need four to five citites
minimum. Not to mention, this could be a fine long-term project, with
multiple edition of the NAGG (Neo-Anarchists Guide to the Globe).

C'mon people. We could wrap up Underworld in a few weeks, and in another
month, have another book written up. It's all up to us to get off our butts.

Erik
list.member.grumpy,
the Whistler,
the Dark Stranger,
and
St. Stan

From:	"'Spaceman' WD Lee" <galahad@*.washington.edu>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:51:08 -0700 (PDT)

Message no. 13 On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 GKoth2258@***.com wrote:

>
> But that aside, what do we want to do with it? Let me put this an easier
> way. Who wants to do what? I'll volunteer Cairo, Egypt, since I've got long

As a new (tm) member to the list, I don't know exactly how this
will work (Altho' the FAQ does help), but if this gets going I'll take
Southern Italy and/or Micronesia (lot's o' neat little Pac islands with
BIG US mil presence....... hmmmm......)

Bill

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From:	Bert Van de Merckt <Bert.VandeMerckt@****.be>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:24:14 +0200

Message no. 14 GKoth2258@***.com wrote:
> There has got to be more to underworld crime other than the Mafia, the Yaks,
> the Seoulpas, and all the other racial mobsters. Smaller arms
> smuggling/trading groups, drug runners, all sorts of organizations that would
> be common in the shadows, but just don't get much "press." Detail a couple
> of these (I have an idea for one involving a free spirit), write another
> piece of fiction maybe. Sound like a plan?

guess fresh meat is a real commodity in 2056+. what would happen if somebody
cornered that market? what's right now a hot topic in belgium, the illegal
hormones trade, could very much be applicable there. let me brood on this
for a while...

[though again, if i can read something else i know the style and stuff...
can you guys help me out here?]

> But that aside, what do we want to do with it? Let me put this an easier
> way. Who wants to do what? I'll volunteer Cairo, Egypt, since I've got long
> term plans for an official sourcebook on the Middle East. Gurth has stuff
> for the Netherlands, and there's a person in Seoul who could write for that
> area. Anybody else? I really do think either Singapore or Hong Kong should
> be included. At 15-20 pages a section, we would need four to five citites
> minimum. Not to mention, this could be a fine long-term project, with
> multiple edition of the NAGG (Neo-Anarchists Guide to the Globe).

let me contact my uncle who is an asian fan...

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From:	Matti Aistrich <aistrich@********.hkkk.fi>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:23:09 +0300 (EET DST)

Message no. 15 On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 GKoth2258@***.com wrote:

> Now, about a World project. First of all, I have little problem, personally,
>
> But that aside, what do we want to do with it? Let me put this an easier
> way. Who wants to do what? I'll volunteer Cairo, Egypt, since I've got long
> term plans for an official sourcebook on the Middle East. Gurth has stuff
> for the Netherlands, and there's a person in Seoul who could write for that
> area. Anybody else? I really do think either Singapore or Hong Kong should
> be included. At 15-20 pages a section, we would need four to five citites

I'm in Finland, conceivably I could do Scandinavia, the Baltics, parts of
Russia, although time is a problem.

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:30:06 +0100

Message no. 16 PDL@****.dacom.co.kr said on 18 Apr 96...

> I have access to a scanner that is not a problem. The problem lies in
> that my original is like a car map <ie. larger than the scanner bed.
> Do I scan it in sections and paste it together somehow? ny ideas?

The map would only be useful if you (or someone else) do(es) a write-up of
Seoul in the first place, but as soon as that is taken care of, the map
would come in handy.
Anyway, scanning it could be done in pieces, which you could then paste
together using a good image editor (Paint Shop Pro is very good), or you
could only scan in areas such as the city center and other places of
interest, then cut out the parts you need. Much like FASA did in Bug City,
in fact.

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:30:06 +0100

Message no. 17 Bert Van de Merckt said on 18 Apr 96...

> guess fresh meat is a real commodity in 2056+. what would happen if somebody
> cornered that market? what's right now a hot topic in belgium, the illegal
> hormones trade, could very much be applicable there. let me brood on this
> for a while...

Good idea, the hormone-maffia is definitely an underworld-type of thing
that won't get touched by FASA anytime soon, IMHO. If you want to do a
write-up of this, by all means go ahead.

> [though again, if i can read something else i know the style and stuff...
> can you guys help me out here?]

The style FASA uses is good. It would be best not to mix fiction and game
rules, as I find that makes for poor reading... You know, the game books
that go "And this new scope will greatly enhance the performance of your
weapon! (-2 to hit) Get one today!!"

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From:	"Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:30:06 +0100

Message no. 18 GKoth2258@***.com said on 18 Apr 96...

> Hey Gurth, don't go start thinking you're the _only_ old man around here...

I'm only 21, but on these lists we're both veterans :)

> I've gone over the current submissions, and brought them down to MS Word 5.1,
> to see how big they are. Using the New York font, the file ranges in size
> from 32 pages in 9 point (what I use for everything) to 48.5 pages in 12
> point (or what TEXT would be). If it stays in 12 point size, then the
> addition of as few as 20 pages should be a minimum for keeping it stand
> alone.

For SR stuff I tend to use 9 or 10 points Francis in Word for Windows
7.0, in two columns, with Avantgarde for the shadowcomments. Makes it
all look very FASA-ish :)

Anyway I was thinking about somthing Topcat brought up on ShadowRN a few
months back -- altered availability ratings. If somebody were to do an
article on how availability and street index ratings change over time,
that could be good for inclusion into Underworld as well..

Also, here is an open invitation to anyone who can draw Shadowrun-style
pictures. I'd like to include some of those in the book, so it's not just a
text-only affair like nearly all other net.sourebooks...

> I figure when Gurth fleshs out his little story from it's current outline
> state, we could add probable a page and a half to two pages more.

Actually, that *is* the story...

> There has got to be more to underworld crime other than the Mafia, the Yaks,
> the Seoulpas, and all the other racial mobsters. Smaller arms
> smuggling/trading groups, drug runners, all sorts of organizations that would
> be common in the shadows, but just don't get much "press." Detail a couple
> of these (I have an idea for one involving a free spirit), write another
> piece of fiction maybe. Sound like a plan?

Why not? Someone intended to write a random gang generator, as well as
some pieces about gangs in general I believe. Since I haven't seen that
piece yet and don't have any real ideas about this myself, I'm kind of
hoping that either A) that person finishes the article and posts it here,
or B) someone else is willing to do a similar article. It would be perfect
for Underworld.

> BTW Gurth , thanks for the Edge Runners write-up.

*Alf voice* No problem! :)

> Now, about a World project. First of all, I have little problem, personally,
> with going over NAGEE territory. Personally, I found much of their material
> to be rather poor. But that's just me, and it would likely be in very poor
> taste for NERPS to cover NAGEE turf.

That's what I thought too. I don't like to contradict other published
material, at most we might add to it I feel.

> Not to mention, this could be a fine long-term project, with
> multiple edition of the NAGG (Neo-Anarchists Guide to the Globe).

With my attention span, I doubt this'd ever get done. I have to finish
things as soon as possible after I start them, else they might very well
never get done.

> the Dark Stranger,
> and
> St. Stan

I must confess to not recognizing those two...

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From:	Lady Jestyr <s421539@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:37:49 +1000 (EST)

Message no. 19 > > way. Who wants to do what? I'll volunteer Cairo, Egypt, since I've got long
> > term plans for an official sourcebook on the Middle East. Gurth has stuff
> > for the Netherlands, and there's a person in Seoul who could write for that
> > area. Anybody else? I really do think either Singapore or Hong Kong should
> > be included. At 15-20 pages a section, we would need four to five citites
>
> I'm in Finland, conceivably I could do Scandinavia, the Baltics, parts of
> Russia, although time is a problem.

I'm willing to do selected locations in Australia, if needed, but the
prevailing tone of my pieces may clash with FASA's planned (if-ever)
australian sourcebook - lord alone knows what they'll do to Australia.
Just so long as they don't make it another CalFree I'm happy. As I said,
my view may clash with FASA... but then again, you might prefer to use my
material.

Now, back to reality... *grin*

Lady Jestyr

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From:	GKoth2258@***.com
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:54:14 -0400

Message no. 20 Only 21? Hell, I'm 23, going on 53...

You would recognize the Dark Stranger if you were on TK, and really, Gurth,
you don't recognize St. Stan? He's only my sysop and organizer of Edge
Runners...;-0

Okay, let's try to pare things down from the flood of mail (I don't think
I've ever seen this many postings at one time...)

1) Sorry Gurth, I thought that was only an outline story. However, if you
did decide to flesh it out like a more traditional piece of fiction, it would
add a page or two.

2) Underworld topics: Hormone smugglers would be good, since in 2057, the
best street drugs would be created from various hormones, human and
otherwise. Just think what kind of combat drugs might be synthesized from
piasma and hellhounds...This could constitute a large portion of the book.

A group of deckers/hackers would be good. Bunch of computer terrorists, or
practical jokers, or something a little oddball.

As far as magic, maybe something to do with wiz-gangs, or a magical group
that is bent on destroying Seattle (or the world, or whatever). And I've got
an old idea I've used a few times in my own campaign involving a free spirit
crime lord.

3) Lone Star: I've got, buried somewhere, the most recent pay scale for the
LAPD. Doesn't include specialities like SWAT, but it does go from rookie to
police chief. As soon as I find it, I'll mail it off to you Gurth.

4) Neo-Anarchists Guide to the Globe: IF this is our next project, then we
need to start setting guidelines. For example, not to pick on Matti, but to
do Finland, the Baltics, AND parts of Russia would be too much I think. Pick
one large city somewhere in that area, and make it interesting to 2057
runners (BTW Matti, have you heard of Keijo Korhonen (sp?)? He was my
professor last spring on Soviet & post-Soviet foreign policy. He was also
your ambassador to the UN for a few years.).

This would have to go for everybody. In addition, just because you live
somewhere, that does not automatically make it the kind of town shadowrunners
would flock to. If it can be made interesting for the shadows, in 2057, then
cool. Micronesia might not be interesting now, but it's possible that in
2057, there might be enough intrigue for the shadows to be interested.

5) Echo Mirage: I just don't know...It would require a whole lot of work,
and I'm not personally sure of how much interest it would really generate.
But I'll reserve my full judgement for now.

6) Newsletter: Again, I'm not sure. It seems to go contrary to what NERPS
is all about. However, I'm open to all discussion.

7) I hope you don't think I'm trying to take over or anything Gurth. I'm
just trying to get things moving again.

8) I think that's everything. Those of us with project ideas for Underworld,
let's get our asses in gear. And those of us with other project ideas, let's
start getting organized.

Erik

From:	Ray Macey <r.macey@*******.qut.edu.au>
Subject:	Re: Stuff
Date:	Mon, 22 Apr 1996 13:18:25 +1000 (EST)

Message no. 21 > I'm willing to do selected locations in Australia, if needed, but the
> prevailing tone of my pieces may clash with FASA's planned (if-ever)
> australian sourcebook - lord alone knows what they'll do to Australia.
> Just so long as they don't make it another CalFree I'm happy. As I said,
> my view may clash with FASA... but then again, you might prefer to use my
> material.

If any one reading this is in Australia and they can get there hands on
some back issues of a mag by the name of 'Australian Realms' have a look
through them. The guy who is doing the sourcebook wrote a heap of
articles that got published in there first.

His vision of Australia has the Aborigional 'Dreamtime' coming back and
the Aborigines fighting to get their origional land back. The aborigines
combined with raging mana storms and paranormal animals like Bunyips and
the like, have caused an exedus of 99% of the Australian population to
the Coastal Cities.

Ray.

> Now, back to reality... *grin*
>
> Lady Jestyr

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