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From: "S. Keith Graham" <vapspcx@***.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: ARGH!
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 22:30:42 -0500
>See above. Properly trained psis get some ability to interact with
>astral.


I'll leave this as "not in my game", and I'll not comment further.
I think Astral is Magic, and Psi is not, and never the twain shall
meet... Amen. :-) And since its a religious question, no more
arguements from me.

>That is not true, and I don't want to have this fight again. We decided
>way back when that certain meta-abilities would give psis access to
>various aspects of astral space.

(Just to bitch about design by committee, YOU decided, some folks agreed,
at least one person (me!) disagreed, and there wasn't even a formal vote
taken.. :) This is really a bad way to run things, and we don't
even have a "design document" to benchmark "implementation" against...

>> The psychic beast is also full of it, unless the Psionic has
>> the ability to a) multitask, b) far see, and c) tk, etc. (as
>> needed to reproduce the beast's effects.)

>Yes, as written their are problems. i knew this when I sent it in. I
>had hoped to get SOME semblence of discussion.

>The pre-requesites for creating psionic entities are too low again. It
>needs to be something like:
> Telekinesis: 4
> Telepathy: 4
> Divided Attention (the meta-ability)

OK.. Telepathy doesn't account for the "guard" feature, which is
detect minds, and/or far-seeing. (Which is different in my book
than telepathy, which is mind-to-mind.. Did we make a distinction?)

Last, how does someone go about killing such a beast, as trivia?
Or stopping one that's been sent?

If it truely is a PSI projecting TK through far-seeing, its
invulnerable to ALL weapons (by definition), and magic (since
there is simply nothing to attack), etc. Its instant death
on wheels...

>> Last, I'm really not sure about the times for initiation. Karma
>> represents, to my mind, "experience" and "training", and
actually
>> going up the "level" is mostly symbolic. I guess its to encourage
>> people to buy up PSI Theory, but even then, it could be *months*
>> of training for moderate levels of initiation.

>The time represents:
> "ok grasshopper, it is time for you to become one with yourself."

>Grasshopper heads off to meditate and study, coming back a better psi.

4 months (for spirit wrack) reduced to 5 weeks with a high theory skill
is still a long time to spend 12 karma. I usually treat gaining karma
as "becoming one with yourself, learning your limitations, etc." That's
why it doesn't take a long time to raise firearms from 6 to 7...

If nothing else, 5 weeks here, a month and a half over there, and your
team will abandon you. That's oodles of downtime, during which you
are moderately vulnerable.

Also, what about interrupted training, voluntary or otherwise? Counts
as half of what's completed when you restart?

Keith Graham
vapspcx@***.gatech.edu

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