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From: Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: 2000 Leagues V1.2
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:33:04 -0800
> From owner-nerps@********.ITRIBE.NET Fri Nov 1 08:15 PST 1996
> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:07:21 UT
> From: Peter Coxon <coxoff@***.COM>
> Subject: 2000 Leagues V1.2
> To: NERPS@********.ITRIBE.NET
>
> NAGTTW
> 2000 Leagues V1.2
> Tim Coxon
> Coxoff@***.com
> --------
> Here is the slightly updated version....Commments?
> :::::Login Sysnet
> :::::Set SysOp = Outlaw
> :::::Set Users = Blue-Belle
> Fisher-King
> Trog
> Bay-Watcher
> Californian-Free
> Nymph
> Dark-Knight
> Torch
> Maxx
> :::::Set Title = 2000 Leagues under the Neon Sea
> :::::Start Document = Y/N
> :::::SysOp Reply = Y
>
> [this bit I will put an intro bit type thingy…]
>
> Liquid lung
> This external device is connected to the users back. A small port in =
the user
> back connect directly into the users Cardio-vascular system. The =
system run on
> Oxygenated Fluoro-Carbons (the user needs to have had his blood =
replaced by
> OFCE) This O2/CO2 transfer system has a hundred % efficiency. So you =
can stay
> down for longer, and because you aren't breathing air it allows you to =
go as
> deep as you want.
>
> Cost Street Index
> OFCE 750/litre
> External connection 500
> Internal Port 1000
>
>Replace my BLOOD?!?!...I don't know 'bout that. I mean Chrome is =
wiz, but this is
different..
>Maxx

[would that little 'port' require any essence or is it just like an IV =
type shunt?]

>
>
> Wet suit:
> Your simple common or garden Wet suit available in as many garish =
colours as
> fashion deems excessive.
>
> Conceal Ballistic. Impact Cost Availability Street =
Index
> Full - 0 1 100¥ Always .9
> Torso - 0 0 75¥ Always .9
> Dry Suit:
> Your simple Dry suit, again available in most colours.
> Conceal Ballistic. Impact Cost Availability Street =
Index
> Full - 0 1 200¥ Always 1
> Torso - 0 0 150¥ Always 1
> Hard case deepsea:
> The Hard Case deep sea diving suit based on the military grade Armour,
> currently in use by the military and corporate forces all over the =
world. The
> air based suit is designed too withstand the pressure at a depth of 1 =
km. The
> design is based on the late 20th century JIM suit, allowing the diver =
to
> surface as quickly as need be by keeping the suit pressure at 1 =
atmosphere.
> The OFCE works differently it keeps the same pressure as the =
water
> surrounding you but as it is a liquid your lungs won't Implode under =
the
> pressure.
> Conceal Ballistic. Impact Weight Cost Availability =
=
Street Index
> Air - 4 3 15+body 700¥ 4/4 days 1.5
> OFCE - 4 3 25+body 2000¥ 6/6 days 2
> >If you're even considering going aquatic on a run, I'd have to =
strongly
> recommend the OFCE conversion. With the air based system, one shot =
can spring
> a leak, and even with leak sealant you can still drown.
> >Torch
>
> Forearm Utility Bracers
>
>
>
>
> Conceal. Availability Price Street Index
> Tools 4 2/24hrs 100¥ 1
> Remote Control Deck 4 X+4/X+48hrs
> Battle Tac 4 ??? ??¥ ??
> CyberDeck 4 X+4/X+48hrs X*1.5¥ 2
> Computer 4 2/24hrs Mem*2.5¥ 1
> Comm Device 4 2/24hrs 1000¥ 1
> Flick blade 4 4/48hrs 500¥ 1.25
> Where X = What it was for the original device.
> [Can any one give me the price etc. for the battle tac]
>
> Oxygen Tanks
> Pure Oxygen tanks usable down to 10m.
> Standard Oxygen/Helium Mix usable down to 120m [back me up on =
that one] and
> available for the same price.
> Name Time at mod exertion Availability Price Street Index
> Small 4hrs 2/24hrs 400¥ 1
> Large 8hrs 2/24hrs 800¥ 1
> Mouth Piece - 2/24hrs 100¥ 1
> Full Face Mask - 3/36hrs 200¥ 1.2
>
> >Okay I can hear everyone out there going, "But why should we want to =
buy the
> O2 when the other one goes down further?" Well what else can you use =
pure
> oxygen for? Oxyacetylene welding, speeding reactions up, medical =
uses…… the
> list goes on.
> >Californian-Free
>
> Oxygenated flouro-carbon emulsion tanks
> Name Time at mod exertion Availability Price Street Index
> Small 4hrs 4/48hrs 1500¥ 1.5
> Large 8hrs 4/48hrs 2800¥ 1.5
> Mouth Piece - 4/48hrs 500¥ 1.5
> Full Face Mask - 6/3days 1000¥ 1.6
>
> Harpoon Weapons
> Ares Archer, Darter and Sprite:
> Ares breaks into the Harpoon weapon market with three new =
designs. The archer
> and the darter both have Compressed air supplies in the clips, so =
there is now
> need for a bulky air canister as well a the clip. The Archer is a =
Harppon
> rifle with A large 10 shot clip, dealing crippling damage to any thing =
that
> you are hunting,
> >Hmmm, I wonder what I would hunt….
> >Nymph
> it can be fitted with the Marine smartlink and/or a ultra sound marine =
sight.
> The Ares Darter is A smaller version of the Archer with a =
quicker firing
> capability, smaller clip and less damaging. It can aslo be fitted with =
the
> Marine Smartlink and/or ultra sound sight.
> The Ares Sprite is a backup weapon, it is basically the marine =
version of the
> Barton Arms bracer (NAGTRL pg. 30) It hold 2 round and can be selected =
to fire
> them individually or at the same time.
> >This thing couldn't kill a Goldfish at point blank your better off =
with a
> fine blade or a slamglove.
> >Fisher-King
> >Ah, but it can be difficult to swing a knife underwater unless you're
> trained... It has its uses]<<<<<
> >Torch
> >Why swing a knife when you can use a pneumatic spear...
> >Maxx
> The Colt White Tip and the Hammer Head
> Here are two interesting weapons The White tip is one of the =
most powerful
> Weapons around and the Hammer head has easily the longest range of all =
the
> weapons here. Both the White tip and the Hammer-Head are both equipped =
with
> Marine Smart Links, and integral Compressed Air cartridge which can be
> Refilled using a standard Air tank. The cartridges are good for 48 =
shot before
> needing to be refilled.
> >These are all well and good but an un-augmented person can't see the =
full
> range of the Hammer-Head.
> >Blue-Belle
> >Speak for your self Sister
> >Trog
> >Did I say I couldn't?
> >Blue-Belle
> The S-K Tiger is the Marine version of a shotgun, Doing =
serious [no pun]
> damage shooting special DU Shreds, which due to the momentum manage to =
get
> further through the water than there airborne Cousins, (they work in =
the air
> but have shotgun ranges, They resist the usual effect of the back of =
the gun
> explode by shooting the shreds in a stream rather than a big mass. The =
stream
> takes about a second to leave the barrel meaning that the momentum of =
the gun
> is slower. The Tiger is powered by Air cartridges good for 24 shots.
> >Heh Heh Heh…..
> >Trog
> The Telestrian Osprey is the first in a soon to be large new =
Elven
> collection, designed by elves for elves, it has an ergonomic design =
and is
> considered by many to be over the top. It come with a recoil =
compensator
> built into the barrel (-2 recoil).
> >OTT! It's a Women's Gun!
> >Trog
> >Excuse me?
> >Blue-Belle
> >This gun is perfect for women it gives virtually no kick, =
ther……..*&^^*****8
> :::::Trog Has Quit (Argl! Dey Got me!)
> >Excuse me…J
> >Blue-Belle
> >Now, Now Children…J
> >Outlaw
> However it the most popular gun around at the moment.
> >The publication that this was….Borrowed from was from some =
corporate enclave,
> in the Sechelles [Could some one check on this bit I couldn't find any =
info on
> the Sechelles (spelling) so I assume that it's okay to dump a enclave =
there.
> J]. So The guns are going to be marked on the Prestige value as much =
as the
> actual use of them, needless to say using the same brand of gun that =
The Crown
> Prince of the Tir uses..Need I say more?
> >Nymph
> Last but not least the Armtech Neptune, especially for hunting =
big game fish.
> With burst fire capabilities it offers the takedown power that bests =
Tiger
> Sharks.
> >Well, yes. My gun is bigger than yours. This corp has apparently =
forgotten
> that the tiger shark is an endangered species.
> >Californian-free
> >You can just see Johnny Corp back at home with his holiday Trid. "And =
this is
> me next to the tiger shark I caught, single handedly.". How to impress =
your
> Chums.
> >Blue-Belle
> >It's not the tiger shark you have to worry about. Ever tried to run =
from a
> Megalodon?
> >Torch
> Name Conceal Range Ammo Mode Damage Avail. Cost Index
> Ares Archer 2 Holdout 10(c) SS 8M
> Ares Darter 5 Taser 6(c) SS/SA 6M
> Ares Sprite 7 Taser 2(Break) SS*2 10L
> Colt White-Tip 4 Taser 4(mag) SS 10M
> Colt Hammer-Head 2 H Pistol 6(mag) SS 7M
> S-K Tiger 4 Taser 2(Break) SS*2 6S(f)
> Telestrian Osprey 1 Holdout 6(mag) SS 9M
> Armtech Neptune - Taser 12(c) SA/BF 4M
> :::::Set User = Trog
> Al-Stone
> Ruddy
> >Look Blue I am sorry about what I said, please can you give me the =
antidote
> to th….*&^((*&&&&
> :::::Trog has Quit (Argl! Dey got me!)
> >What a Shame, Leaving so soon? J
> >Blue-Belle
>
> Boomsticks
> Boomsticks are close combat weapons utilising a modified shotgun =
mechanism to
> deliver an explosive blast to the target. While intended for under =
water use
> it's not unheard of for them to be used in surface combat with =
predictably
> gruesome results. After making a hit in melee combat there's only a =
slight
> chance the weapon will snag on clothing or drift from the contact =
point so
> it's pretty tough to miss, but still possible. The range in brackets =
is for
> when the weapon is used out of the water.
> >A friend of mine (RIP) was once dumb enough to take a guy with one of =
these
> on.
> >Bay-Watcher
>
> Slam-Glove
> The Slam-Glove is basically a chopped down boomstick mounted in an =
artillery
> shell shaped gauntlet that fits over your forearm. You throw a punch,
> connect, and ruin someone's day with a point blank shotgun blast.
>
> The Ares Boom Series are the crude but effective, Packing =
power into a
> simple design.
> >These things are nasty with a capital 'N', The only things to do more =
damage
> than these are mono-filiment whips and your average troll in bad mode =
with a
> combat ax, shame Trog isn't on heh? J
> >Blue-Belle
> >Heh Blue Remember what happened to Joey? Never thought you could make =
such a
> big hole in such a thin person…
> >Al-Stone

>I'm in love...
>Maxx

> The Telestrian Sea-Lance is another in the elven series of =
ergonomic marine
> Weapons, It is by far the longest of the Boom-sticks on the current =
market, it
> has an ancient style design.
> >That Ancient design come straight to you from a Telestrian/Altantean =
Venture,
> the design of this is based on some sort of magical wand that they =
found in
> the Atlantic. Telestrian thought they would be smart by copying the =
exterior
> design instead of having to design a new model. Atlantean weren't too =
happy
> about this but Telestrian had the stuck it out on the market before =
Atlantean
> could do anything. They did stop production so now the Sea-Lance is =
collectors
> stuff, they only got 20,000 out.
> >Nymph

> Morissey Do it again, ergonomic weapons with style for the =
Corporate Upper
> Echelon, The Sea-sting and the Marine are the classiest weapons for =
under
> water defence.
> >Pah! Under water defence, corp workers would break their wrist with =
recoil,
> Admittedly these things ain't as powerful as the Ares ones, but corp
> workers…….
> >Bay-Watcher
>
> Name Type Conceal. Reach Damage Weight Avail. Cost =
=
Index
> Ares Boomer Boomstick 3 1 8S
> Ares BoomBaby Slam-Glove 9 0 8S
> Telestrian Sea Lance Boomstick 2 2 6S
> Morissey Sea-Sting Slam-Glove 8 0 6S
> Morissey Marine Boomstick 3 1 6S
>
> Torpedo Launcher
> >Now we get to the interesting stuff.
> >Fisher-King
> The S-K Thresher for the serious game fisher come with =
integral Marine
> Smartlink, Radar Painter good out to 2000m, It Fire it's own special =
round
> that follow Radar signal which is defined by the marine Smartlink. Or =
if you
> don't have the privilege of owning one, you just have to point the =
launcher in
> that direction.
> >Oh Boy!! 2000m!!! Smart Torpedoes!!! Lotsa Damage…He he he!!
> >Blue-Belle
> >Game fishing…..ARE THEY KIDDING!!!! This thing packs enough power =
to blow
> hole in the side of Submarines..
> >Nymph
> >Of course you haven't seen what you get if you cross toxic waste, =
mutagens,
> and torpedo sharks…..ouch!
> >Californian-Free
> The Ares Piranha is basically what you would imagine a Piranha =
attack to be.
> On there own the piranha's aren't dangerous but get a few together! =
The
> Piranha comes with the integral marine smartlink and Ultra sound =
sights.
> >Can you say Overkill??
> >Nymph
> >A friend of mine once took on three Torpedo Sharks on his own with =
one of
> these and a belt of 150 rounds, 146 rounds later there wasn't much =
left….
> >Ruddy
> >Of the Sharks?
> >Californian-Free
> >Nope, Of anything in a area of about 250m in a 90degree cone =
extending out
> from him, real shame 'bout that corporate hunting vessel. J
> >Ruddy
> Name Conceal Range Ammo Mode Damage Weight Avail. Cost =
=
Index
> S-K Thresher - Grenade L 4(box) SS As Torpedo
> Ares Piranha - LMG 40(clip) or Belt SA/BF As =
Torpedo
>
> Harpoons and knifes and stuff.
> The Ares Sailors collection include the Mariner a 1.85m =
Telescopic trident.
> It collapses down to .25m, it come with a belt hook. It extends using =
springs
> but they don't have enough power to do any real damage. The Sea-Dog is =
your
> Stereotypical sailors knife. However both have been treated with =
DikoteTM.
> >Back in 52 I was using a Mariner it worked great for about a week, =
but when
> it came to the crunch time, the dam thing would extend then once I had =
it out
> it wouldn't stay out. No matter what Ares have done since then I still
> wouldn't trust it.
> >Ruddy
> >Ruddy if I remember rightly you spent the first week, extending and =
closing
> it about 10 times a minute, showing off your new wizzer toy, then when =
it was
> so knackered, you tried to extend it while your arm was half way down =
a tiger
> sharks throat, Admittedly it should have stood up to all this, but =
really
> never use them, I use them all the time and have never had that =
problem.
> >Nymph
> >Hmmphh!
> >Ruddy
> :::::Ruddy has Quit (Well, It was a bad subject anyway!)
> >There is no satisfying some people.
> >Nymph
> The Cougar Sea-blade is the marine version of the fine-blades, It is =
made to
> the same High standard as the Fine-Blade but it has a High friction =
Grip. The
> trident is basically the Sea-Blade in trident form.
> The Telestrian Titan is another one in their Atlantis Series, Based on =
a
> Trident that they found at the Atlantic site, Atlantean aren't happy =
about
> this either, again making it a collectors piece
> >Atlantean ain't happy about this series.
> >Nymph
>
> Name Type Conceal. Reach Damage Weight Avail Cost =
=
Weight
> Ares Mariner Harpoon 1/6 2 (STR+3)S
> Ares Sea-Dog Knife 4 0 (STR+1)M
> Cougar Trident Harpoon 0 1 (STR+3)M
> Cougar Sea-Blade Knife 5 0 (STR+1)M
> Telestrian Titan Harpoon Yeah! 2 (STR+2)M
>
> Ammunition
> Name Conceal. Damage Weight Avail. Cost Index
> Regular Ares 3 As weapon
> Explosive Ares 3 +1 Power
> Powered Ares 3 Range*2
> Flechette Ares Bommers 3 See Rules
> Colt Regulars 3 As Weapon
> S-K Tiger Regulars 3 9M
> S-K Tiger Flechette 3 As Weapon
> Telestrian/Armtech Regulars 3 As Weapon
> Telestrian/Morissey Bommers 3 As Weapon
> Piranha HE 1 8D(-4M)
> Piranha Regular 1 8S
> Piranha AP 1 10S
> Piranha APDS 1 [Can't find anything on this]
> Piranha EX 1 8D
> Piranha HE Belt - 8D(-4M)
> Piranha Regular Belt - 8S
> Piranha AP Belt - 10S
> Piranha APDS Belt - [Can't find anything on this]
> Piranha EX Belt - 8D
> Thresher DSHE - 16D
> Thresher DSAP - 14D on vehicles
> Thresher SMAP - 14D on vehicles
> Thresher SMHE - 16D
> [really need feedback on these too much too little…]
> [I was also considering adding a shock wave rule were with area effect
> explosions you half the damage change it to stun and apply that to =
anything In
> double the blast area coments?]

[shock wave makes sense...explosions are far more dangerous under water =
anyway...denser
medium, shock has more effect and travels farther..any of you more =
physics minded
people have comments. You could just alter the power reduction per =
meter...Zim]

[Hey, anybody out there...wouldn't explosions due more base damage =
underwater anyway?
-Zim]

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