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From: dhinkley@***.org
Subject: Plastic Guns--Final Version
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:42:13 -0700 (PDT)
Gentlemen

Here is the final version of my submission. Comments and recomendations
are both welcome and requested.

David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org

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Copyright (C) 1996
All rights reserved
David G. Hinkley

Plastic Guns


>>>>>[while wandering the Matrix I came across this, thought it might be of
interest to some of you]<<<<<<
--Phantom (H:M:S/D-M-Y)

>>>>>[Just wandering...right, Information Circulars are for internal use
only.
The only place the Phantom could get this is off one Lone Star's Computer
systems. If it is authentic.......]<<<<<<
--Electronic Wizzard (13:26:52/06-09-57)

>>>>>[Its authentic, I have seen a hard copy]<<<<<<
--Anonimo Beccacciniero (#:@:&/%-$-!)


Department of Surveillance, Division of Investigation Austin
Information Circular #561034A
26 September 2057
Dist: All Departments, All Divisions

The following items have recently been seized during investigations in
Seattle, Austin, and Atlanta. Officers are advised to adjust their search and
surveillance methods to reflect the unique characteristics of these weapons.

>>>>>["Officers are advised to adjust..." now isn't that a
interesting turn of
phrase? I think I detect a hidden message.]<<<<<
--Shadowrider (23:23:23/02-04-01)

>>>>>[Very astute of you Shadowrider. You are quite correct. It is the
never
ending friction between staff and line management. Staff cannot give orders, yet
there are cases when they should be able to and this is one of them. What they
are trying to say is...Metal detectors are no longer reliable, frisk everybody
to insure that they are not carrying. Of course if they said this the Line
management would be so up in arms over the fact that it was in the form of an
order that the message content would be lost. Aren't bureaucracies
wonderful...they make our life so much easier :) ]<<<<<
--Whispering Death (01:08:26/06-09-57)

Composite Shotgun: A double-barreled weapon manufactured of ceramic and plastic
composites, utilizing ammunition of the same materials. This as this weapon
contains no metal parts of any kind it is not detectable by metal detectors,
when disassembled it is difficult to identify with X-ray scanning, and due to
the limited amount of propellant contained in the ammunition chem-sniffers are
of limited use. The composite material used is off white in color, however two
of the specimens seized had been painted, one to resemble a conventional shotgun
the other in a woodland camouflage pattern. It is believed that these are part
of a limited production run. Ballistic examination of this weapon shows it to be
as effective as the conventional shotgun against soft targets. insufficient
ammunition was seized with the test samples to provide for full testing. Medical
Department tests reveal that the composite flechettes used in the shells are
X-ray transparent making wound treatment difficult.


Plastic Rocket Pistol: This weapon will chamber standard Transcon 7 mm GyroJet
ammunition, but the example was seized with a partial clip of explosive
ammunition made of composite materials. The weapon is light grey in color about
15 cm long and weights .2 kg empty. The detachable springless magazine holds 8
rounds. This weapon is not detectable at all by metal detectors, when
disassembled it is difficult to identify with X-ray scanning, and due to the
limited amount of propellant contained in the ammunition chem-sniffers are of
limited use. Ballistic examination of this weapon shows it to be as effective as
the conventional GyroJet against soft targets. Medical Department tests reveal
that the fragments from the explosive rounds are X-ray transparent making wound
treatment difficult.


While these weapons are similar in concept, close examination of the
materials and manufacturing techniques used indicates that it is extremely
likely that they are being manufactured by different organizations and were
designed by different individuals. Further information will be released as it
becomes available in the R&D Evaluation Sections regular monthly Tech Bulletin.
Headquarters Lone Star is extremely interested in identifying the source of
these and similar weapons as well as detection methods effective in identifying
individuals carrying items of this type.

Class 28C funding is available to reimburse out of pocket expenses
associated with the collection of accurate information regarding the source of
these items. Include expense vouchers with your reports, signed receipts are not
required. Section 16, Department of Surveillance is to be informed immediately
of the recovery of, or information regarding the source of these items.

>>>>>[Class 28C funds?]<<<<<
--Bugsy (18:09:13/06-09-57)

>>>>>[Class 28C funds come from Lone Star Headquarters, Austin and are not
charged against the local Lone Star office. The use of these funds for an
investigation of this type indicates that senior officials are extremely
interested in this matter. Of even more interest is the total lack of
information relating to how the samples tested came into Lone Star's control.
Normally one would expect that some information would be released to provide
some leads for investigators to start from.]<<<<<
--Shadowrider (23:25:56/03-07-98)

>>>>>[The Star is out on the street looking hard and their fixed security
posts
are doing more frisks then normal ]<<<<<
--Whispering Death (01:09:53/07-09-57)

>>>>>[The question is who is making these, I for one would like to get one
of my
own.]<<<<
--Bugsy (18:10:52/06-09-57)

>>>>>[Good luck, finding the source of these would be hard enough, now that
the
Man is looking it will be harder yet. Be careful that you are not caught up in a
sting operation]<<<<
--Anonimo Beccacciniero (#:@:&/%-$-!)

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