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Message no. 1
From: Geoffrey Gerrietts <Siothrun@***.COM>
Subject: ...
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:14:52 -0500
OK, I really hate to be a booger about this, but is there a reason everyone
keeps spelling Tir na nOg as Tir nan Og? Is this some Irish dialect I'm
simply not aware of?

Again, I'm sorry, but it grates on me the same way it does when someone
substitutes an auxilliary "e" for an umlaut (i.e. Goethe), even though I know
that that particular form is accepted and correct. If I'm simply displaying
my ignorance, please correct me, but I'm fairly confident that Tir na nOg
(with the little accent guy over the O) is correct...
Message no. 2
From: MAGECK <JVXNSYA@***.BITNET>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 15:24:13 -0500
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Message no. 3
From: "Lobotomies, UnLtd." <GungaDon@***.COM>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 05:52:29 -0500
ACTUALLY guys...looks like I'm gonna hafta be clearin some stuff up, fer ya!
*sigh*

Tir na nOg _is_ correct...
And, so is Tir Nan Og...
_And_, Tir Na Og...
As WELL as about half a dozen OTHER spellin's / pronounciations!

Jus _depends_ on where yer from...and how _old_ ya are...

But, fer the sake o' the GAME...

Tir Nan Og --TNO -- tis the usage o' choice! Tis the one the_Sidhe_ 've
taken a likin ta...and, who's ta argue w / the "oldest race" o' that fair
isle...il'yah? *smirk*

So, don't undully concern yerself, Geoff...ya _were_ right! Jus...not
_quite_, in this instance! *smile*

Virtually Shady,
Lobotomies, UnLtd.

P.S. Sorry, Adam--whilst we're on the subject o' spellin...tis
"Silversong", w / an "i"..._shame_ on ya!!! *grin*
Message no. 4
From: MAGECK <JVXNSYA@***.BITNET>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:03:46 -0500
actually I think in my write up I had it spelled with a y. I might be wrong,
seeing that i don't have any of my info with me. Oh well whatever.

As fer what STREETWOLF is doing. Due to limited net access, Will noty be doing
many posts, but he will trash and burn anything ya want done. Take on a few
vamps, or whatever. Nice flamethrower spell free of charge. Probably stick
with Nex if he can.
Latre all
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Many deny our existence |We are not just in Tales
And some think we might be there |But we are here
Few truly believe |We are the SIDHE
Reconsider your thoughts |Do not deny
Cause you may be |We are the SIDHE
With one of us right now |
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Message no. 5
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 16:23:10 EST
Brian Smith writes:
> >>>>>[Hey guys! I know the first of the year is still a bit of a
ways
> off, but the wife and I decided we're gonna throw a New Year's Eve bash
> this year. Time and place TBD. We're inviting the whole gang down for
> some fun. Righteous, too, if he redeems himself well enough for us.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

God, you guys are forgiving... Whatever happened to the live hard,> die fast world
of the shadowrunner?
This is getting a little soft...
(See my previous rant about how R&D should be slagged to hell

If you're doing it for my sake: don't. I like the characters, but I
like the game _MUCH_ more. Keeping the game realistic and fun is the
most important thing here. If R&D get tossed out of the Seattle
shadows, so be it. They took a gamble and lost. Lost hard. They
violated the integrity of this board (I'm surprised nobody's called
for the sysop to kick them off), and the trust of every runner in
town...

But I've already said this...


Heh: Also, I'm hoping that R&D are going to have an opportunity to
"redeem" themselves sometime in the near future, at least in AJ's
eyes. So feel free to drek on them. In fact, PLEASE drek on them.
They deserve it.
Message no. 6
From: "Brad Shantz" <bshantz@******.com>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 13:36:29 +0000
> (I'm surprised nobody's called for the sysop to kick them off)

Whoa? Sysop? I wasn't aware that Shadowland has a sysop? This is
an anarchy right?

Brad
Message no. 7
From: Brian Smith <bes3@****.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:35:37 -0700 (MST)
On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Evan Hughes wrote:

> Heh: Also, I'm hoping that R&D are going to have an opportunity to
> "redeem" themselves sometime in the near future, at least in AJ's
> eyes. So feel free to drek on them. In fact, PLEASE drek on them.
> They deserve it.

That's my point. If they redeem themselves, Ripley won't have a
problem accepting them back into the fold, provided they cut their ties
with Drake... :)

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Message no. 8
From: Brian Smith <bes3@****.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:39:36 -0700 (MST)
On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Brad Shantz wrote:

> Whoa? Sysop? I wasn't aware that Shadowland has a sysop? This is
> an anarchy right?

Usually, but I think Moonwalker's watching over things...

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"You know, it's amazing how much the Moon looks like Arizona..."
--MST3K, "The Robot vs The Aztec Mummy"
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In these trying times, you just gotta remember...
Jock itch is somethin' I wouldn't recommend scratching.
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Message no. 9
From: "Mark Imbriaco" <mark@******.net>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:52:08 -0500
> > (I'm surprised nobody's called for the sysop to kick them off)
>
> Whoa? Sysop? I wasn't aware that Shadowland has a sysop? This is
> an anarchy right?
>
> Brad
>
Well, there's a sysop, but the SysOp of Shadowland is just that:
Someone who keeps the system running. Anyone elite enough to find
Shadowland can post there. It's not like you have an "account"
that you login to to access SLand..

-Mark
Message no. 10
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:10:49 -0800 (PST)
According to Evan Hughes:
>
> Heh: Also, I'm hoping that R&D are going to have an opportunity to
> "redeem" themselves sometime in the near future, at least in AJ's
> eyes. So feel free to drek on them. In fact, PLEASE drek on them.
> They deserve it.

Really? How hard do you want them to be enshitted? With this wraith stuff
coming to a crisis soon, I could see some possibilities that could get them
into several different sorts of trouble. Injured is the easiest to manage,
but there's worse I could envision =)
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 11
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:22:34 -0500
Evan,
My characters have seen quite a lot; the majority believe in giving everyone
a second chance.
Tom
Message no. 12
From: bd042@***.org (SCN User)
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:41:27 -0800
Hell yes we have a sysop, who periodically posts as SysOpus.
And I get to work for him part-time.
Or he may be a them. I'm not sure.
--Moonwalker
Message no. 13
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 0:41:09 EST
Brad Shantz writes:
>
> > (I'm surprised nobody's called for the sysop to kick them off)
>
> Whoa? Sysop? I wasn't aware that Shadowland has a sysop? This is
> an anarchy right?


Somebody must run the Denver DataHaven.... (I think... =)
Message no. 14
From: Baldandar@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:51:28 -0500
I will start the hunt for R&D. Consider that Shade has summoned up one force
6 greater form storm spirit and one force 7 greater form forest spirit to
hunt them down and cause as much harm as possible to them without killing
them. Though such a feet is usually difficult, my character is a summoning
adept and therefore can do this with the use of his stone circle. They will
begin the hunt at sunrise on 11/24/56 and will fade at the next sunrise of
11/25/56. This should read as non-stop harassment and harm.
Message no. 15
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 2:01:19 EST
Baldandar@***.com writes:
>
> I will start the hunt for R&D. Consider that Shade has summoned up one force
> 6 greater form storm spirit and one force 7 greater form forest spirit to
> hunt them down and cause as much harm as possible to them without killing
> them. Though such a feet is usually difficult, my character is a summoning
> adept and therefore can do this with the use of his stone circle. They will
> begin the hunt at sunrise on 11/24/56 and will fade at the next sunrise of
> 11/25/56. This should read as non-stop harassment and harm.
>
I'm impressed... R&D will of course boot it like hell out of Haven as
soon as the critter shows up.
Message no. 16
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.colorado.edu>
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 08:49:02 -0700 (MST)
Although R&D might not know this, so they may book anyway, the only way
that Shade's spirits could harass them inside of Haven is verbally.
There's enough magicians and free spirits around often enough to keep it
at that level and to "throw them out" if the others got too "uppity".

But there's something else too, that only The Dark Stranger seems to be
following up on. That the Wraith was drawn to Haven. Sure, it gained a
lot of strength because of the attacks there, but it was there
before-hand. A lot of funky critters(come on, a Man of the Woods likes
the area? MANY free spirits too?) frequent the area, and none of them
are willing to talk about why. Mozart knows, and I've tried hinting
about it in her posts(which were a while ago now), and so does Val, but
neither of them would talk about it much. R&D would, if they explored,
find only 1 area of the building they couldn't get into.

It's as if Haven has started taking on a life of it's own. And nobody is
following up on this, at least not recently.....

Oh well. I'm more than happy to let it alone.

Brian
Message no. 17
From: Baldandar@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:05:55 -0500
Shade hasn't forgotten, but he believes in much preparation before the
eventual battle. He is currently in the process of talking with the local
supernatural creatures of what they know of Haven. He is also researching
the past of Haven's location.
Message no. 18
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:49:13 -0800 (PST)
According to Baldandar@***.com:
>
> I will start the hunt for R&D. Consider that Shade has summoned up one force
> 6 greater form storm spirit and one force 7 greater form forest spirit to
> hunt them down and cause as much harm as possible to them without killing
> them. Though such a feet is usually difficult, my character is a summoning
> adept and therefore can do this with the use of his stone circle. They will
> begin the hunt at sunrise on 11/24/56 and will fade at the next sunrise of
> 11/25/56. This should read as non-stop harassment and harm.

Alright folks: I would like to ask for a quick sanity check here. What we
have above are TWO Astral Quests, with ratings 6 and 7 respectively,
presumably within a short timespan. That's going to REALLY suck, given the
sort of Drain and Damage involved. Just being any particular class of
character wont' make this easier, though a Conjuring Focus might. I just want
to underscore the fact that the summoning itself is _not_ something that people
can just do casually.

What's more, Nature spirits are not quoted as having Remote Service as one of
their powers (only elementals are), which should mean that the summoner must
have LOS for them to act. Do we want to relax this restriction?
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 19
From: Baldandar@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:37:21 -0500
That is incorrect. You don't have to have line of sight, or the search
powers would be useless, not to mention that you could shut off your astral
perception.
Besides, this has already been done. Yes they are high rating quests,
but if you're going to do something, you do it right.
Message no. 20
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:43:43 -0800 (PST)
According to Baldandar@***.com:
>
> That is incorrect. You don't have to have line of sight, or the search
> powers would be useless, not to mention that you could shut off your astral
> perception.

Your appeal to the search power has merit, though of course the search can
only affect things in the spirit's domain, which the summoner must be in
at the time.

> Besides, this has already been done. Yes they are high rating quests,
> but if you're going to do something, you do it right.

I suppose so. Oh well. =)
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 21
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 21:23:29 -0500
About Nature Spirits, they must be in their own domain in order to do
something(ie if forest spirit must be in the forest to follow orders). They
won't follow orders that send them away from their domain. p 228 Second
Edition SR sourcebook.
Tom
Message no. 22
From: Baldandar@***.com
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:07:38 -0500
That is correct only for lesser spirits. I don't have my books near me at
the moment, but greater forms can go anywhere they want. Their search power
increases. They gain the power of Storm in their domain, with the exception
of Greater Storm Spirits who can use the Storm power anywhere they want.
This is from the Grimoire II.
Message no. 23
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: ...
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:11:53 -0800 (PST)
According to Baldandar@***.com:
>
> That is correct only for lesser spirits. I don't have my books near me at
> the moment, but greater forms can go anywhere they want. Their search power
> increases. They gain the power of Storm in their domain, with the exception
> of Greater Storm Spirits who can use the Storm power anywhere they want.
> This is from the Grimoire II.

"Great Nature Spirits. Unlike other spirits, great nature spirits can cross
domain lines...Additionally, only great form nature spirits can use the new
Storm power. Spirits of Man cannot have this power."

Nothing noted about relaxing LOS. You're right on about the other stuff =)
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 24
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@**.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: ... (fwd)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:26:01 +0100
Sorry guys (again).
It's been a long day and I'm tired....

If only there was a way to insert the time automatically....

Oh well..... >*Yawn*<

|***** PRIVATE: Orion
|>>>>>[For a good, runner friendly bar in Seattle, try "The Aedipus
Complex".
|It even has a private room just for these occasions. Just tell the barman
|Inferno sent you and he'll let you use it....
|
|Oh! The address is >>encrypted<<. It's not in any
phonebooks....]<<<<<
| -- Inferno <xx:xx:xx GMT/xx.OCT.57>
|


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Message no. 25
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.NET>
Subject: Re: ... (fwd)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:31:55 -0400
On Oct 17, 8:26pm, A Halliwell wrote:
> Subject: Re: ... (fwd)
> Sorry guys (again).
> It's been a long day and I'm tired....
>
> If only there was a way to insert the time automatically....
>
> Oh well..... >*Yawn*<

We all screw up every now and again, and actually, there are a
few ways to insert the time automagically, but I'm not sure how
I'd go about it with elm. With emacs or Zmail, it's fairly simple
though..

-Mark
Message no. 26
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@**.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: ... (fwd)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:41:05 +0100
|
|On Oct 17, 8:26pm, A Halliwell wrote:
|> Subject: Re: ... (fwd)
|> Sorry guys (again).
|> It's been a long day and I'm tired....
|>
|> If only there was a way to insert the time automatically....
|>
|> Oh well..... >*Yawn*<
|
| We all screw up every now and again, and actually, there are a
| few ways to insert the time automagically, but I'm not sure how
| I'd go about it with elm. With emacs or Zmail, it's fairly simple
| though..

I keep meaning to learn emacs. (Elm can activate almost any text editor to
edit mail. I'm still using joe, which is a wordstar clone. I'll have a look
into it......)

Y'never know, even joe might be capable of it if I can get me hands on any
documentation above the "Intro to joe" crappy thing....

Hmmmmmm....

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|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:-| "THAT WOULD BE AN ECCLESIASTICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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