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Message no. 1
From: "Michael R. Goldberg" <mrgoldbe@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: AJ coming back.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:44:30 -0600
Brian --

I think you and I have been over this road before, but a vampire
doesn't perceive time like a human does. Especially as the years start
to pass it by and his body doesn't age. His mentality changes as he
adapts to his "new" life and he gets jaded to certain things, but his
body is still young and vital. (And depending on your view of
vampires, getting stronger and faster, etc.)

I don't think it would be all that hard for a vampiric doctor to get
distracted by something for a year and then look up and say, "Wait, I
thought it was only 2058?"

(Of course, that is my own opinion about vampires. And yes, most of my
characters still fear AJ based on what he is -- despite the fact of who
he was, when he was human. A vampire is a predator that is higher on
the food chain than humans. To not fear a vampire on some level,
despite all best intentions is foolish. Instinct will dictate that,
although some people have managed to override their instinct for short
periods of time.)

Later,
Mike

PS. My primary pet hate about Shadowrun is: Over reliance on magic in
a cyberpunk genre -- magic is a nice compliment, but there still should
be cyberpunk present or you miss a major part of Shadowrun.

I have some concerns over trends on the list, but hate is way too
strong of a word for _that_.
Message no. 2
From: Brian Angliss <angliss@*****.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject: Re: AJ coming back.
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:23:47 -0700
>I think you and I have been over this road before, but a vampire
>doesn't perceive time like a human does. Especially as the years start
>to pass it by and his body doesn't age. His mentality changes as he
>adapts to his "new" life and he gets jaded to certain things, but his
>body is still young and vital. (And depending on your view of
>vampires, getting stronger and faster, etc.)

Yep, we've been over it before. But while I see your point, it would
require me to make some changes to his personality that I'm not comfortable
doing.

>I don't think it would be all that hard for a vampiric doctor to get
>distracted by something for a year and then look up and say, "Wait, I
>thought it was only 2058?"

It's 2059, right? And I just figured out how to bring AJ back. He got
sucked into something rather abruptly. Now, on to figuring out what's been
happening with the other characters.

>(Of course, that is my own opinion about vampires. And yes, most of my
>characters still fear AJ based on what he is -- despite the fact of who
>he was, when he was human.

To not fear him would require one of 2 things - having actually known him
as a human, or having had close contact over extended periods of time, like
Slash and Roxey. And even they stay a ways away from him when he's either
a) hungry, b) really pissed off, or c) he's on blood replacements.

Brian
Message no. 3
From: Randy Nickel <RANNIC@****.COM>
Subject: Re: AJ coming back.
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:38:53 -0800
>I think you and I have been over this road before, but a
vampire
>doesn't perceive time like a human does. Especially as the
years start
>to pass it by and his body doesn't age. His mentality changes
as he
>adapts to his "new" life and he gets jaded to certain things,
but his
>body is still young and vital. (And depending on your view of
>vampires, getting stronger and faster, etc.)

I would say that depends on the age of the vampire. How old is
AJ? And a year is a bit long. Especially if this is a very active
vampire.

Yep, we've been over it before. But while I see your point, it
would
require me to make some changes to his personality that I'm not
comfortable
doing.

>To not fear him would require one of 2 things - having actually
known him
>as a human, or having had close contact over extended periods
of time, like
>Slash and Roxey. And even they stay a ways away from him when
he's either
>a) hungry, b) really pissed off, or c) he's on blood
replacements.

The other alternative to not fearing him is being convinced that
you are superior. Warloc has met vampires before. He has killed some and
he has let some live. He was able to kill those easily enough so until
he gets really knocked on his arse by one he is not going to be afraid.
Even then he will likely just be a little more cautious and strike first
and ask questions later.

Otter

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