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Message no. 1
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:11:21 -0700
ARGH! And I was going to hit the key to take me to my addressbook too.


On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Jeffrey Mach wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Jett wrote:
>
> > *****PRIVATE:Jett
>
> Uh...I think you meant to send this to Methos.

Bugger. #5

--Jeff
Message no. 2
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:24:27 -0400
Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>
> ARGH! And I was going to hit the key to take me to my addressbook too.
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Jett wrote:
> >
> > > *****PRIVATE:Jett
> >
> > Uh...I think you meant to send this to Methos.
>
> Bugger. #5
>
> --Jeff

*smirk* Guess I'll have company on the climb up that hill...


--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 3
From: Sean Marshall <methos@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 22:23:40 -0500
I just got a notice from the list server saying that my posting had been
rejected because it appeared to be a duplicate of one already sent.

I only sent it once and it does show up I think. I got it anyway. did
anyone else?

Subject: Re: Bounty

*****PRIVATE:Jett
>>>>>>[Tell you what. It is your life that is about to change. If I
stage
your death, and collect the bounty for it, I will give it all to you minus
my expenses. This really sucks what they are doing to you.

>>snip<<

--Methos<22:15:08/07-15-59>
Message no. 4
From: Sean Marshall <methos@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 22:44:48 -0500
actually Methos was thinking more along the lines of Erasering Jett. Like
having a contact at the morgue and finding someone already dead who looked
enough like Jett that altering would work, along with substituting dental
records.

He doesn't enjoy killing, and if he can find a way around it he will
Message no. 5
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:27:04 -0400
Sean Marshall wrote:
>
> actually Methos was thinking more along the lines of Erasering Jett. Like
> having a contact at the morgue and finding someone already dead who looked
> enough like Jett that altering would work, along with substituting dental
> records.
>
> He doesn't enjoy killing, and if he can find a way around it he will

Well, if they find "Jett" in her apartment, dead, that would wrap it up.
Just put a few shots in the corpse to make it look good. Then "remove"
her belongings and transfer them to Jett's friend, Ironthorne (aka Lisa
Randall, whom Jett already has a fake ID for).
If you like, I'll write up the newscast, even.

--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 6
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:31:12 -0700
On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Sean Marshall wrote:

> actually Methos was thinking more along the lines of Erasering Jett. Like
> having a contact at the morgue and finding someone already dead who looked
> enough like Jett that altering would work, along with substituting dental
> records.

Altering bodies and substituting dental records are all well and good, but
the odds of finding a decent match in a morgue is extremely low, as
opposed to finding one living and breathing. Mr. Schwartzenegger's (sp?)
character had one, a mostly improbable movie already behind him, and two,
a lot more time to set this sort of thing up.

The other problems of making it believable include: getting the poor
stiff out of the morgue, which tend to be in places like hospitals and
police buildings, where they would tend to notice such things as missing
bodies, and more importantly, people trying to remove same. Plus, if you
find her in the morgue, chances are the body's already been autopsied,
which will look really strange when she is found in Jett's apartment.
"Yup, first killed her with a drug overdose, then they ran a complete
autopsy, then they put her back together and shot her a few times. Boy,
they _really_ wanted to make sure she was dead."

That is, unless you want to just go and _claim_ the body in the morgue is
Jett, which is a little trickier, if say the body came in on Sunday, and
Monday, everybody remembers seeing/talking with her.

> He doesn't enjoy killing, and if he can find a way around it he will

Which is why when most people disappear, they either do one of two things:
Most do so without a trace, like Fang had to do when he came to Seattle
from HK the trail on his former name and HKCIT just drop the face of the
world. Got to Seattle and used his savings to give him and his s/o new
names and new faces. Only after a while of being resurfaced, did he get
back in contact with some of his old friends in HK to let them know he was
still alive. The less morally encumbered make sure to have a live body to
blow to bits, like Easy did with a certain girl. ('Round Christmas time,
Twitch was hired to off Easy and set up a meet, Easy smelled something
funny and sent a look-alike girl in her place, where she was met by a
carbomb. Instant elf-girl confetti. Gave Easy a rather good alibi,
namely being dead, to go about and do some things that needed to be done
before re-emerging.)

Just throwing my two yen in on some things to think about before ideas get
written in stone.

--Jeff

P.S. I should have remembered that NJ is still a little POed about that
little incident before he offered to help Easy (he is really uncomfortable
with the idea of elf-girl confetti, there are much better things to do to,
or more importantly with, elf girls in his opinion)...but oh well. It
wasn't exactly like she shot her herself. More like sent her into almost
certain doom, which is a bit different. I don't think it ever came out
publicly that Twitch was the bomber, either. So, ramifications from that
incident have been minimal.
Message no. 7
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:46:18 -0400
Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Sean Marshall wrote:
>
> > actually Methos was thinking more along the lines of Erasering Jett. Like
> > having a contact at the morgue and finding someone already dead who looked
> > enough like Jett that altering would work, along with substituting dental
> > records.
>
> Altering bodies and substituting dental records are all well and good, but
> the odds of finding a decent match in a morgue is extremely low, as
> opposed to finding one living and breathing. Mr. Schwartzenegger's (sp?)
> character had one, a mostly improbable movie already behind him, and two,
> a lot more time to set this sort of thing up.
>
> The other problems of making it believable include: getting the poor
> stiff out of the morgue, which tend to be in places like hospitals and
> police buildings, where they would tend to notice such things as missing
> bodies, and more importantly, people trying to remove same. Plus, if you
> find her in the morgue, chances are the body's already been autopsied,
> which will look really strange when she is found in Jett's apartment.
> "Yup, first killed her with a drug overdose, then they ran a complete
> autopsy, then they put her back together and shot her a few times. Boy,
> they _really_ wanted to make sure she was dead."
>
> That is, unless you want to just go and _claim_ the body in the morgue is
> Jett, which is a little trickier, if say the body came in on Sunday, and
> Monday, everybody remembers seeing/talking with her.
>
> > He doesn't enjoy killing, and if he can find a way around it he will
>
> Which is why when most people disappear, they either do one of two things:
> Most do so without a trace, like Fang had to do when he came to Seattle
> from HK the trail on his former name and HKCIT just drop the face of the
> world. Got to Seattle and used his savings to give him and his s/o new
> names and new faces. Only after a while of being resurfaced, did he get
> back in contact with some of his old friends in HK to let them know he was
> still alive. The less morally encumbered make sure to have a live body to
> blow to bits, like Easy did with a certain girl. ('Round Christmas time,
> Twitch was hired to off Easy and set up a meet, Easy smelled something
> funny and sent a look-alike girl in her place, where she was met by a
> carbomb. Instant elf-girl confetti. Gave Easy a rather good alibi,
> namely being dead, to go about and do some things that needed to be done
> before re-emerging.)
>
> Just throwing my two yen in on some things to think about before ideas get
> written in stone.
>
> --Jeff

He does have a point. Perhaps killing off Jett isn't necessary: just a
vanishing act or change of identity will do for now. I still have to
come up with a legitimate person/group who wants to find Jett this bad.
And why. Unless I come up with something myself. ANY suggestions?
Anyone? Please?
--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 8
From: Sean Marshall <methos@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 00:14:09 -0500
I still think faking the death is a possibility. Things at the morgue
would not be that complicated. Unless it is specifically mentioned in the
source books why could it not be an automated system, sort of like the bank
night deposit slots. Even if it isn't automated, Methos has a contact at
the morgue. Getting a body out of the morgue should therefore be no problem.

Second, no autopsy would be done if the cause of death was rather obvious,
like say, the top of their head blown off, or a great big basketball size
hole where the person's heart and lungs should be. Coincidently, that is
how Jett would die. Or even better, she would be blown up in a car
bomb/gas main exp, whatever, so that her body is so badly mangled she could
only be identified with dental records.. That has the advantage of only
requiring that the substitute body be only approximately the same size and
build. All other distinguishing marks would be lost.

No, I think this idea is still totally viable. the only place where it
would fail is if Jett has and cyberware that everyone else knows about that
would still be recognizable after the body is blown up. Slim chance of
that, I think. Jett would have to answer to be sure.

The idea also allows us to "get closer" to the people who are hunting Jett.
We can find out who they are and continue with an interesting plotline.

I really think this would work. realistically.
Message no. 9
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:23:53 -0400
Sean Marshall wrote:
>
> I still think faking the death is a possibility. Things at the morgue
> would not be that complicated. Unless it is specifically mentioned in the
> source books why could it not be an automated system, sort of like the bank
> night deposit slots. Even if it isn't automated, Methos has a contact at
> the morgue. Getting a body out of the morgue should therefore be no problem.
>
> Second, no autopsy would be done if the cause of death was rather obvious,
> like say, the top of their head blown off, or a great big basketball size
> hole where the person's heart and lungs should be. Coincidently, that is
> how Jett would die. Or even better, she would be blown up in a car
> bomb/gas main exp, whatever, so that her body is so badly mangled she could
> only be identified with dental records.. That has the advantage of only
> requiring that the substitute body be only approximately the same size and
> build. All other distinguishing marks would be lost.
>
> No, I think this idea is still totally viable. the only place where it
> would fail is if Jett has and cyberware that everyone else knows about that
> would still be recognizable after the body is blown up. Slim chance of
> that, I think. Jett would have to answer to be sure.
>
> The idea also allows us to "get closer" to the people who are hunting Jett.
> We can find out who they are and continue with an interesting plotline.
>
> I really think this would work. realistically.


Err, Jett is LOADED with cyber. None of it distinctive (your basics:
hand razors, wired flexes, muscle reps, etc.) Hope that little bit of
info helps...Blowing up Jett's car is do-able.
DO you have any ideas for who is actually hunting Jett?


--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 10
From: Wraith <wraith@************.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:30:52 -0500
-----Original Message-----
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
>Err, Jett is LOADED with cyber. None of it distinctive (your basics:
>hand razors, wired flexes, muscle reps, etc.) Hope that little bit of
>info helps...Blowing up Jett's car is do-able.
>DO you have any ideas for who is actually hunting Jett?


I'm actually surprised Jett hasn't contacted BF and yelled at him for
selling her out or screwing up somehow :) Been kinda expecting it for the
last day or two ;)

Wraith
Message no. 11
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:05:58 -0400
******PRIVATE: BigDaddy
>>>>>[It was good seeing you again last night and getting to meet Tons O'
Fun and Homer. I think this run is good to go...
Tomorrow, there's a slight change of plans. I'll still be meeting you,
but I'm taking my Ironthorne persona out of storage. Things are gonna
start going down pretty quick after tonight, so I thought I'd let you
know ahead of time. Keep an eye out for me.

+++++Image: ironthorne.jpg ]<<<<<
-- Jett <17:04:46/07-16-59>
Message no. 12
From: Michael Broadwater <neon@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:39:25 -0500
At 12:14 AM 7/16/98 -0500, Sean Marshall wrote:
>I still think faking the death is a possibility. Things at the morgue
>would not be that complicated. Unless it is specifically mentioned in the
>source books why could it not be an automated system, sort of like the bank
>night deposit slots. Even if it isn't automated, Methos has a contact at
>the morgue. Getting a body out of the morgue should therefore be no problem.
>
>Second, no autopsy would be done if the cause of death was rather obvious,

Not true. Autoposies are always done. More as a matter of record than
investigative work.

>like say, the top of their head blown off, or a great big basketball size
>hole where the person's heart and lungs should be. Coincidently, that is
>how Jett would die. Or even better, she would be blown up in a car
>bomb/gas main exp, whatever, so that her body is so badly mangled she could
>only be identified with dental records.. That has the advantage of only
>requiring that the substitute body be only approximately the same size and
>build. All other distinguishing marks would be lost.
>
>No, I think this idea is still totally viable. the only place where it
>would fail is if Jett has and cyberware that everyone else knows about that
>would still be recognizable after the body is blown up. Slim chance of
>that, I think. Jett would have to answer to be sure.
>
>I really think this would work. realistically.

Not really. You can take a dead body and shot it in the head, or rip out
it's lungs, and the police are going to go "Wow, for a gun shot victim,
there sure isn't a lot of blood lose." I know enough forensic pathology to
figure out that the body was dead long before being shot.

What you need to do is take a person who's similiar to Jett, take them
somewhere, shoot them, then burn the building and the body and leave some
evidence that it was Jett. Faked DNA or dental records, for example.

However, you're presuming that the people who want to kill Jett have enough
info on her to get her dental or DNA records but not enough to know what
kind of cyber she has. It's a fine line.



Mike Broadwater
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon/
"Unarmed fighting is what I do between clips."
-- Sifu George Vance
Message no. 13
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:03:36 -0400
Michael Broadwater wrote:
>
> At 12:14 AM 7/16/98 -0500, Sean Marshall wrote:
> >I still think faking the death is a possibility. Things at the morgue
> >would not be that complicated. Unless it is specifically mentioned in the
> >source books why could it not be an automated system, sort of like the bank
> >night deposit slots. Even if it isn't automated, Methos has a contact at
> >the morgue. Getting a body out of the morgue should therefore be no problem.
> >
> >Second, no autopsy would be done if the cause of death was rather obvious,
>
> Not true. Autoposies are always done. More as a matter of record than
> investigative work.

I'm pretty fair at pathology myself. COMPLETE autopsies are always done.
Just in case of error or underlyng causes.

>
> >like say, the top of their head blown off, or a great big basketball size
> >hole where the person's heart and lungs should be. Coincidently, that is
> >how Jett would die. Or even better, she would be blown up in a car
> >bomb/gas main exp, whatever, so that her body is so badly mangled she could
> >only be identified with dental records.. That has the advantage of only
> >requiring that the substitute body be only approximately the same size and
> >build. All other distinguishing marks would be lost.
> >
> >No, I think this idea is still totally viable. the only place where it
> >would fail is if Jett has and cyberware that everyone else knows about that
> >would still be recognizable after the body is blown up. Slim chance of
> >that, I think. Jett would have to answer to be sure.
> >
> >I really think this would work. realistically.
>
> Not really. You can take a dead body and shot it in the head, or rip out
> it's lungs, and the police are going to go "Wow, for a gun shot victim,
> there sure isn't a lot of blood lose." I know enough forensic pathology to
> figure out that the body was dead long before being shot.

Exactly. The gunshot victim wouldn't work, and anyway finding a body
close enough would be impossible. We have to maul the body as much as
possible to make it extremely difficult to ID.



> What you need to do is take a person who's similiar to Jett, take them
> somewhere, shoot them, then burn the building and the body and leave some
> evidence that it was Jett. Faked DNA or dental records, for example.
>
> However, you're presuming that the people who want to kill Jett have enough
> info on her to get her dental or DNA records but not enough to know what
> kind of cyber she has. It's a fine line.


Actually, I doubt that the people hunting Jett have that much info on
her. However, the cops do. NO ONE really knows what cyber Jett has,
since most of it is black market deltaware. So I think that the
explosion, with the help of a few switched records, would work.

--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 14
From: Michael Broadwater <neon@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:00:20 -0500
At 02:03 AM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote:

>Actually, I doubt that the people hunting Jett have that much info on
>her. However, the cops do. NO ONE really knows what cyber Jett has,
>since most of it is black market deltaware. So I think that the
>explosion, with the help of a few switched records, would work.

If Jett has delta ware, then someone definately _does_ know what kind of
ware she has. You don't just walk into a clinic and say "Yeah, and can you
supersize those razors for me, doc?" Someone backs you and lets you show
up there. They know. Could be interesting for Jett for the next few
weeks, eh? ;)



Mike Broadwater
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon/
"Unarmed fighting is what I do between clips."
-- Sifu George Vance
Message no. 15
From: Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:21:07 -0400
Michael Broadwater wrote:
>
> At 02:03 AM 7/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Actually, I doubt that the people hunting Jett have that much info on
> >her. However, the cops do. NO ONE really knows what cyber Jett has,
> >since most of it is black market deltaware. So I think that the
> >explosion, with the help of a few switched records, would work.
>
> If Jett has delta ware, then someone definately _does_ know what kind of
> ware she has. You don't just walk into a clinic and say "Yeah, and can you
> supersize those razors for me, doc?" Someone backs you and lets you show
> up there. They know. Could be interesting for Jett for the next few
> weeks, eh? ;)
>

Oh, things are already getting interesting for Jett. But outside of the
people who GAVE her the ware, no one in the common community knows
exactly what she has. She could just as easily have wetware as wire, so
the common media and the people she knows casually won't figure it out.
The people who got Jett her ware won't say anything, believe me. It goes
back to family ties, a dead lover, the Yakuza, and LOTS of money. So
this CAN be pulled off...but hopefully, Jett won't have to stay dead
long enough for it to matter. :)

--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>



"I'll make this clear, that I'm just here for backup. And to offer the
occasional advice or insult."
--Jett, on being an NPC

"Crushed to death IS natural. Walls fall on people and kill them all the
time. I just make the walls a little more aggressive about it!"
--Cinder the pyrokinetic/psi, on natural causes of death


http://www.scifi-fantasy.com/~zmjett/shadow.htm
Message no. 16
From: BigDaddy <bigdaddy@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:15:10 -0400
*****PRIVATE:Jett
>>>>>[Pleasure was all my dear. Yes the tickets are for a private jet,
leaving out tommorow morning, so we should be all set. All that requires is that you
arrive. I have us booked down for a Mr. White and guest. Good luck babe! PS Reverend was
in the car watching he sends his regards. ]<<<<<<
--BigDaddy<21:14:41/07-16-59>
Message no. 17
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 21:28:49 -0400
At 08:14 PM 7/18/98 -0500, Wraith wrote these timeless words:
>*****PRIVATE: Mitchell
>>>>>>[Great. I'm sure it wasn't me, and you're sure it wasn't you.
Perhaps
>this is something totally unrelated to what we're working on. It might be
>something from the past, that finally caught up with my
informant.]<<<<<
> -- Mitchell <02:11:43/07-19-59>
>
I'm not really sure here, but... Is Mitchell talking to himself? And more
importantly, is he supposed to be? <grin>

Bull
--
Bull -- The Best Ork Decker You Never Met
chaos@*****.com ===== bull22@***********.com
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3604

=======================================================
= =
= Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any Fours? =
= =
=======================================================

"We come from Stucco Village, where we bake bread
and play tether ball all day!"
-- A really weird scene from Trinity, the 3 AM version
Message no. 18
From: Wraith <wraith@************.COM>
Subject: Re: Bounty
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:26:35 -0500
-----Original Message-----
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>


>At 08:14 PM 7/18/98 -0500, Wraith wrote these timeless words:
>>*****PRIVATE: Mitchell
>>>>>>>[Great. I'm sure it wasn't me, and you're sure it wasn't you.
Perhaps
>>this is something totally unrelated to what we're working on. It might be
>>something from the past, that finally caught up with my
informant.]<<<<<
>> -- Mitchell <02:11:43/07-19-59>
>>
>I'm not really sure here, but... Is Mitchell talking to himself? And more
>importantly, is he supposed to be? <grin>



Wraith walks up that lonely road (for now, one day you WILL join me...:)
towards the top of the hill. Reaching the very top, Wraith pulls out the
carp mortar, aims it straight up, and drops a carp down the barrel, and
waits....


Frag, that was incredibly stupid, not sure what I was thinking when I wrote
that (I know, I wasn't thinking, thats it, yeah, I wasn't thinking...) It's
supposed to be FROM Black Fire...

Wraith

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