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Message no. 1
From: Mark Imbriaco <mark@******.NET>
Subject: Deletions.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:27:15 -0400
I just got done deleting several TK members for formatting violations. If
you don't know the formatting guidelines, read them. If you already
know them, read them again. My trigger finger is feeling kinda itchy
today, and I just wrote a script that makes it _really_ easy for me to
remove offenders. <eg>

Mark Imbriaco email: <mark@******.net>
iTribe, Inc. url: http://www.itribe.net/~mark/
Director of Engineering pgp/geek: http://www.itribe.net/~mark/codes.html

W e b W o n d e r s . O n l i n e O d d i t i e s . C o o l S t u f f
Message no. 2
From: Mike Broadwater <neon@******.BACKBONE.OLEMISS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Deletions.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:33:42 -0500
At 11:27 AM 10/14/96 -0400, Mark Imbriaco wrote:
> I just got done deleting several TK members for formatting violations.

<sounds of applause from the huddled masses below. They put their carp
away, saving the lynching for another time>

Mike Broadwater
"Love us with money or
we'll hate you with hammers."
-Milk and Cheese, Dairy Products Gone Bad
Message no. 3
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Deletions.
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:29:14 -0500
The beer is in the mail, bro!

Thanks. I spent nearly 45 minutes yesterday, after being away
from my machine for just under 10 hours (and way from my pager...darn, the
batteries werent done recharching :) ) deleting mail from the plotd and
shadowtk mailing lists. Most of them were bitching about formating, the others
were shoddily formated posts.

If you are in need of an assist kicker of ass, count me in.

> I just got done deleting several TK members for formatting violations. If
> you don't know the formatting guidelines, read them. If you already
> know them, read them again. My trigger finger is feeling kinda itchy
> today, and I just wrote a script that makes it _really_ easy for me to
> remove offenders. <eg>
>
> Mark Imbriaco email: <mark@******.net>
> iTribe, Inc. url: http://www.itribe.net/~mark/
> Director of Engineering pgp/geek: http://www.itribe.net/~mark/codes.html
>
> W e b W o n d e r s . O n l i n e O d d i t i e s . C o o l S t u f f
Message no. 4
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@**.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Deletions
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:54:45 +0100
Now.... I haven't been recieving much from the shadowtk for a while.

Have I been deleted?
And if so, why? My format's been OK.. ie

>>>>>[]<<<<<
-- Inferno <xx:xx:xx GMT/xx.OCT.57>

And if there was anything wrong with it, I haven't heard....

(And no, I'm not a newbie. I've been following the plots on shadowtk for the
past year (with a 2 or 3 month break over the summer.....)

Ever since this new shitty listserv thing's been up, everything's fallen
apart.
The shadowrn list has been down for almost a day, attempting to get anything
from the listserv program itself (such as a help file) results in a
corrupted mailbox.....

I posted the same request, but PLEASE!!!!
Switch back to majordomo until you've got all the bugs out.....
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|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:-| "THAT WOULD BE AN ECCLESIASTICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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Message no. 5
From: Brad Shantz <BRADS@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Deletions
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:09:27 -0700
1) No problems here.
2) Bugs can't be fixed unless someone is using the software. Kudos to
Mark for the seamless changeover to the listserv stuff.
3) The list is still up.
4) I don't think it's the listserv that's falling apart. There are some
people with some real attitudes on the list.

>Brad
Message no. 6
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@**.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Deletions
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:11:22 +0100
|1) No problems here.

There are on shadowrn though....

|2) Bugs can't be fixed unless someone is using the software. Kudos to
|Mark for the seamless changeover to the listserv stuff.
|3) The list is still up.

Alas, shadowrn isn't....

|4) I don't think it's the listserv that's falling apart. There are some
|people with some real attitudes on the list.

It has to be the listserv. It corrupts my mailbox everytime I ask for
anything from the program itself, it seemed to have imposed a 50 message
limit on shadowrn and now shadowrn is off-line totally.
(Or should I say "On hold" as the list message says when I'm trying to
recover from then latest mailbox crash......)

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______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk | |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:-| "THAT WOULD BE AN ECCLESIASTICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
|
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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Message no. 7
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Deletions
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:35:16 -0400
On Oct 14, 10:09am, Brad Shantz wrote:
> Subject: Re: Deletions
> 1) No problems here.

Glad to hear it.

> 2) Bugs can't be fixed unless someone is using the software. Kudos to
> Mark for the seamless changeover to the listserv stuff.

Thanks. He does have a valid point amidst the ranting .. ShadowRN
was down for a couple of days over the weekend. Actually, it wasn't
'down' it just wasn't sending out the posts that it received. (But
it didn't lose any of them). That's been fixed and shouldn't happen
again.

> 3) The list is still up.

Yup.

> 4) I don't think it's the listserv that's falling apart. There are some
> people with some real attitudes on the list.

Yup. To the best of my knowledge, the ShadowRN problem is the only
major hiccup that has happened.

-Mark
Message no. 8
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Deletions
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:38:42 -0400
> |2) Bugs can't be fixed unless someone is using the software. Kudos to
> |Mark for the seamless changeover to the listserv stuff.
> |3) The list is still up.
>
> Alas, shadowrn isn't....

ShadowRN came back online yesterday afternoon. Following your message
(the only one I got about it, btw... I don't post to RN very frequently
so I didn't know anything was amiss) I spent time messing with it until
the problem was solved.

> |4) I don't think it's the listserv that's falling apart. There are some
> |people with some real attitudes on the list.
>
> It has to be the listserv. It corrupts my mailbox everytime I ask for
> anything from the program itself, it seemed to have imposed a 50 message
> limit on shadowrn and now shadowrn is off-line totally.
> (Or should I say "On hold" as the list message says when I'm trying to
> recover from then latest mailbox crash......)

Again, I'm saying that I think it is either Elm or the sendmail
configuration at your site that is making your mailbox crash.
I honestly don't see how an email message could munge your spool
unless something was configured incorrectly at your end. I
haven't seen this problem myself or from other listmembers
either, so it's _really_ hard to diagnose.

-Mark

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