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Message no. 1
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: FAQ v.5
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:51:43 +0100
Part 2 of the modified FAQ.

Discussion welcomed before I put it out to the general list.


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ShadowTalk FAQ Part II
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2. DISCLAIMER
3. GUIDELINES FOR POSTING
A. Formatting Guidelines and Justifications
B. What is the posting format?
C. What are the restrictions on the type of postings?
i. General Restrictions
ii. Mailing List Advertising Policy
D. What are the restrictions on characterization?
E. Registering a Character
4. GETTING CURRENT AND PAST LOGS
A. Getting edited logs via HTTP and FTP
5. SUPPLEMENTAL MAILING LISTS
6. LIST UTILITIES
A. EMACS auto-wrapper
B. PERL script to send a message with correct formatting
7. PLOT-D
A. What is PLOT-D
B. Subscribing to PLOT-D
8. ADDITIONAL LIST INFORMATION
A. Just who are these administrators anyways?

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2. DISCLAIMER
By nature of the topic of this list (cyberpunk and gothic styles of
fiction) it should be warned that discussions often contain violent,
sexual and/or adult themes.

The responsibility (blame?) for each posting falls entirely into the
hands of the original poster. The listowners, postmaster, and the iTRiBE
administration assumes no liability for the contents of postings.

If you have a complaint about the list content, please e-mail the Nice
Guy Dread Executor at paul@********.demon.co.uk with the details.

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3: GUIDELINES FOR POSTING
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WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

Posting to the ShadowTk list without following the GUIDELINES FOR
POSTING can and frequently will result in your immediate removal from
the list, accompanied by a message requesting that you refamiliarize
yourself with the ShadowTk FAQ.

Once you have refamiliarized yourself with the FAQ, you are free to
rejoin the list.

Persistent breaches of the GUIDELINES FOR POSTING will mean you will not
be permitted to rejoin.

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!


A. Formatting Guidelines and Justifications

1. Why Format Correctly?
Proper formatting of messages to ShadowTk is important for several
reasons.

First of all, it helps sustain the illusion of a Shadowrun BBS.

Secondly, it allows for ease of reading for your fellow list members.

Lastly, it makes it easier for the listowner and all other people who
are keeping logs to format them in a consistant manner.


Proper formatting is a minor irritation, but soon becomes habit. It is,
though, seen by some as an indication of likely conduct: if someone will
not follow the simple rules of formatting a message, they may not be
likely to respect the other conventions of the list or the other
listmembers.


2. What are encrypts, and how do I use them?
Encrypted messages are used to allow a message to be either read only by
certain characters or to prevent them from being read by particular
characters. Encrypts are used to enhance the development of storylines
and should be used sparingly.


i. *****PRIVATE: messages
The first type of encryption is the "Private" message. Following the
keyword "PRIVATE" the names of the characters the message was sent to
are listed. Only these characters are aware of the messages existence,
and even they do not know that the same message was sent to characters
other than themselves.

For example,

*****PRIVATE: Johnson
>>>>>[Nobody except you and I know this message
exists.]<<<<<
-- Lonesome <00:32:16/07-07-58>

It is very poor etiquette to have any other characters respond to such a
message, unless it is a special case where the sender of the message has
agreed to let the message be eavesdropped upon.

Some players choose to add additional encryption to their PRIVATE:
messages.

*****PRIVATE: AlexandriaN
>>>>>[+++++begin encryption: Kido Buntai 4.2
Alex, we've got a real problem here...
+++++end encryption: Kido Buntai 4.2]<<<<<
-- Lynch <00:31:16/07-07-58>

This is a matter of "colour" and style: with or without additional
encrypts, if the originator of a PRIVATE: message states that it is
secure, then it is secure and may not be read by other than the
recipient.


ii. *****NOT TO: messages
The second type of encryption is the "Barring" message. Following the
keywords "NOT TO" the names of the characters that the writer does not
want to recieve the message are listed. Once again, it is very poor
etiqutte to have a character respond to a message he has been barred
from. For example,

*****NOT TO: Thunda
>>>>>[This guy is really beginning to annoy me.]<<<<<
-- Easy <00:31:16/07-07-58>

It is not impossible that a well-supported character, with a web of
contacts, would still see the NOT TO: message. It is, though, a plot
device intended to ease the flow of the plot rather than any credible
technical invention: it should not be disregarded lightly, and
permission should be sought from the originator.

Some list members find NOT TO: useful, others dislike it and choose not
to use it. As with PRIVATE: encryption, the originator's word is final.


iii. *****INTERNAL: messages.
The third type of encryption, which isn't really an encrypt in the same
sense as PRIVATE and NOT-TO, is the INTERNAL message.

INTERNAL messages can be used to provide insight on what is going on
behind the scenes in a plot for the ShadowTk list-members. INTERNAL
messages are for behind the scenes plot developement for information
that would not normally be posted to the ShadowLand board, but might be
a part of normal Matrix traffic. They are typically corporate or
government traffic, but that's not a hard-and-fast rule.

*****INTERNAL: Renraku Security IntraNet
>>>>>[Sir, the four intruders have been apprehended. Three are still
alive and are being interrogated at this moment. I expect to make a full
report by morning.]<<<<<
-- Sergeant Jiro Hyabusa <00:31:16/07-07-58>
Internal Security
Renraku Red Samurai


Again, while it is very ill-mannered to post a reply to, or knowledge
of, an INTERNAL: post without invitation, it's quite possible to e-mail
the originator and discuss how your character(s) might become involved
in that plot.

Gross consequence might be obvious, but detail usually won't be unless
the originator allows. For instance,

*****INTERNAL: Lone Star (Seattle)
>>>>>[Okay. Lock it down. Discreet. but hard. I want the streets quiet
within a week.]<<<<<
-- Colonel Bob Roberts<00:31:16/07-07-58>
Commander
Robbery and Homicide Division, Auburn

might fairly prompt the response to the list

>>>>>[Man, the Star are jumpy in Auburn these days. Regular heatwave.
Any idea what's going on?]<<<<<
-- Boomer <04:11:34/07-07-58>

since it would be obvious that Lone Star are much more active in Auburn
after this message is posted.

However, only by consulting the originator of the post and seeking their
approval and advice is it reasonable to offer:

>>>>>[I hear that Commander Roberts is really torqued about something,
and he wants the Auburn streets clean within seven days. Anyone know
why?]<<<<<
-- Boomer <04:11:34/07-07-58>

as a follow-up. The fact of a Lone Star clean-up in Auburn might be
obvious (though how extensive and successful it is, is a matter to check
with the originator of the message) but the reasons behind it would not
be.



iv. Minor Encryptions
A secondary use of encrypts is to allow the author to neglect to specify
an otherwise meaningless detail. Encrypts of this nature are placed
inside a message and appear in a format similar to "Meet me at
>>Encrypted<< in two hours." or "I'll leave the chips at
>>location<<
when the payment reaches me."


It's a fact that no two Shadowrun campaigns are alike. One area this
particularly reflects upon, is on payment for shadowrunning and other
work. What one group would leap at, another would ignore as chicken-
feed.

Minor encryptions are ideal for resolving this problem, and can be quite
descriptive. For instance, "I'll pay >>amazingly large amount<< for
whoever brings me the head of Damon Knight" or "I know it isn't much,
but whoever helps me will get >>small sum<< for their time".

Mentioning an actual sum of money is likely to bring a chorus of both
"I'd never work for so little!" and "That's a ludicrously high
price!";
it's recommended you use a descriptive minor encryption instead.


3. "Dramatics"
Many times, a posting will be made that has what are termed "Dramatics"
in them. Often times, this will be downloading of a program, a
description of a video camera shot, a virus attacking the poster, or
some such. To properly set these events off, one will utilize five '+'
symbols. #

For Example:

>>>>>[This is the guy who beat me up last night.

+++++ Download: bad_guy.picture

Anyone recognise him?]<<<<<
-- Smitty <04:11:34/07-07-58>

or

>>>>>[I got this footage while I was in New York. It's real!

+++++begin trideo: kong.avi
A giant ape climbs the Empire State Building, a screaming woman clutched
in one hand while small aircraft buzz around him.
+++++end trideo

It's all true, I swear!]<<<<<
-- Whacko <04:11:34/07-07-58>


Transcripts of meetings and telephone calls, video footage of dramatic
events, recordings of Matrix runs, all can be covered in this way by
dramatic inclusions.


4. ID and Time/Date Stamp
All message must have an ID and a time/date Stamp at the end of the
message. This includes messages that are disrupted during sending since
ID and Time/Date are determined before the posting character starts his
message.

Leaving the ID and Time/Date Stamp off of a post is very confusing and
should never be done. Repeated offenders will be notified that they are
violating the posting format and that they will be removed from the list
if they continue to do so.

While FASA's later books have moved away from the full time/date stamp,
ShadowTK retains them because it assists in compiling the logs and in
determining what order posts should be read.

Also, while some FASA books have characters able to distort their
time/date stamps, this should not be done until your character has spent
some time on the list, if at all. It is recommended that ShadowTK
characters stick to the traditional Time/Date format.

Non-US users are reminded that the date is expressed as Month/Day/Year,
thus 17 July 2058 is 07/17/58.


********** B. What is the posting format?
The best guideline for posting format can be found in the FASA
rulebooks, but in summary, a post should be made as follows:

Standard Style:
***** (Key Word): Name List (optional)
>>>>>[Text to be discussed]<<<<<
-- ID < Time / Date >

Corporate Style:
***** (Key Word): Name List (optional)
>>>>>[Text to be discussed]<<<<<
-- ID < Time / Date >
Position
Corporation

Where:
(Key Word) = This refers to the key words for the two styles of post
encryption, those being "PRIVATE" and "NOT TO".

Name List = This is a list of names of personnas that the encryption is
keyed to. For private messages, it is a list of those who are able to
read the post. For barring messages, it is the list of people who cannot
read the message.

>>>>>[ = All postings should start with five (5) greater-than symbols
followed by an opening bracket.

]<<<<< = All postings should end with a closing bracket followed by five
(5) less than symbols.

ID = Your fictional LTG identification. This ID should be preceeded by
eight spaces, two dashes (--), and two spaces.

Time = The time of the post in 24hr format (ie, hh:mm:ss) I've found it
personally convienient to simply use the current real-world time. There
has been some discussion regarding using a universal time (example,
everyone posts using GMT or Seattle time). It has been decided that it
is too much of a pain to try to recalculate posting time. If you do with
is use a universal time, use GMT.

Date = The Shadowrun Date. In order to keep things in order, use the
current month and day, and for the year, take the current year and add
61 to it (Shadowrun takes place in 2058 during 1997). Date is posted in
MM-DD-YY format.

Position = The position possessed by the individual in his corporation
(President, CEO, Executive Assistant). This style of posting is used
only by corporate or government types, since no self respecting runner
or neoanarchist would use something that corps do.

Corporation= Name of the Coroporation or organisation to which the
individual is affilated.

NOTE: There are some industrious "deckers" that alter the time-date
stamp into saying something else. While this can be fun, it is generally
accepted that only VERY expert deckers can do this, not listmembers who
are too lazy to check the date and time for a message. It is /not/ a
trivial task to change, and even for the most expert decker, in most
cases, is usually not considered worth the effort to do so.

It is strongly recommended that listmembers allow a character to
"settle" into the list for a while before doing this, and that it should
indicate considerable ability on behalf of the decker.


OTHER EDITING INSTRUCTIONS: All postings should be made flush-left. Do
not TAB in new paragraphs. Do not use TABs for formatting purposes (use
spaces). At the end of a paragraph, press return twice and start the
next paragraph flush-left. If there are multiple messages in one
posting, put only one blank line between them. Do not hyphenate words.
If a word is longer than the line, start the word on the NEXT line.


Signature Files: It is unnescessary to include a signature file for
ShadowTK postings, as your entries will have your "ID" to identify you.
Most mailers are able to resolve return addresses. Thus, don't do it: it
merely causes extra work for whoever has to edit the logs.


Quoting Previous Postings: This is also highly frowned upon, mostly
because of the difficulty in creating a log file. Discussion should
occur rapidly enough that quoting of will be unecessary. If you feel
that you need to address specific points, please try to simply address
them without wasting bandwidth with unecessary quoting. Use the text of
the posting to refresh everyone's memory if you can.


Subject Line: Please note that subject lines WILL NOT be present in the
edited log, so if you have a subject line that is important to the
meaning of message, it will become confusing.


Flaming: Isn't very nice, period. You will be warned if your behaviour
is percieved as flaming. If it gets too bad, you will be deleted from
the list.


********** C. What are the restrictions on the type of postings?

i. General Restrictions
In general, any aspect of the Shadowrun society can be discussed.
Rumors, reports, opinions, etc. about the Shadowrun universe are the
subject. Any world shaking plots, or plots that will directly or
indirectly affect other characters should be discussed on the PLOT-D
list beforehand. (See part 7)

Another rule of thumb is that plots should generally stick with the
published FASA world as much as possible. Sticking to the FASA world
ensures that new listmembers will see a world that they are familiar
with from published FASA literature. NOTE: The list generally lags
behind published FASA literature by a month or so. This gives all of the
listmembers who are interested in plots pertaining to that literature
time to purchase and read it.

ii. Mailing List Advertising Policy
This policy is intended to fight mailing-list "spamming". The Shadowrun
mailing lists accept commercial advertising for payment. We offer a fee
waiver if you can show us the cancelled check for a $1000 (U.S.) or more
donation to the Electronic Frontier Foundation. One donation per
advertisement, please. If you don't wish to donate, simply post your
advertisement to the list, and the operator of the mailing lists will
bill $1999 (U.S). The list operator will donate this amount, minus the
expense of collecting it, to EFF.

Please note that the lists are distributed automaticaly - messages are
generally not read or checked in any way before they are distributed. By
the act of posting your advertisement you agree to accept responsibility
for the fee, you agree to indemnify the mailing-list operator against
any legal claims from you or others in connection with your
advertisement, and you agree to pay any legal and business expenses
incurred in collecting late payment. Our liability to you is limited to
a good-faith effort to deliver your message. Reduced rates and/or waiver
of fee are available for Shadowrun-related and selected other topics of
advertisements. You must consult the mailing-list operator in advance of
posting for any reduction or fee waiver.

********** D. What are the restrictions on characterization?
Over one hundred people subscribe to this list, and everyone wants to
feel as individual and special as the next. To this end, please keep the
following parameters in mind when creating stories and characters. Stick
to the official rules and world background. This is not meant to
constrain your imagination, but to provide a common "world" in which to
interact.

Some people play highly variant versions of Shadowrun, with Artificial
Intelligences, Voodoo magic, and Orbital Masters. In general, if it
doesn't exist in the rules or supplements, don't use it. If there is a
variant idea that you really want to use, bring it up on PLOT-D (See
part 7) first for commenting. If consensus is approving, you may use it,
but it is very likely that cries of munchkinism will be raised.



Also, maintain a sense of humility and reason. All characters are
vulnerable, and no character should have an excessive amount of power
without reason. If you do play a powerful character, do not go about
bragging of your connections and abilities... this will only annoy the
others and result in a flame war. With great power comes great
responsibility; while you may create whatever characters you wish, it is
your responsibility to keep their power and activities within reason.

There have been and are list members who run corporations, police forces
and intelligence agencies, but a common factor is that those bodies, and
the people who make them up, have identifiable limitaitons, weaknesses,
flaws and vulnerabilities. Basically, just remember that ShadowTK is not
about "winning", it's about storytelling.


When you create a character, try to give him or her some depth. Come up
with mannerisms, common sayings, and other unique aspects that define
your character as more than a stream of ASCII. A sign of a well-
developed character is one who can be recognized without a Time/Date
stamp. Mentioning "off-board" friends, enemies, and contacts can also
help.


There are 4 rules to character usage that must be followed:

1: You cannot use someone else's character without permission. This
means that you MUST NOT write something up and sign as someone else's
character without the creators' consent.

2: If you use someone else's character with their permission, keep their
posting style consistent. This includes their language, virtual
mannerisms, and Time/Date stamp. If you don't know the character well
enough to do so, don't use it.

3: NEVER kill off someone else's character, without prior consent. This
is one of the few truly *absolute* rules of the list: violation will
result in permanent exclusion.

4: Above All, HAVE FUN! If you want to get involved with an existing
story, or wish to invite someone else to yours, your best bet is to
discuss it on PLOT-D (See part 7). If you do not subscribe to that list,
or want to keep your involvement secret (the better to startle everyone
with a shocking plot twist) you can still contact people privately with
the REPLY command.

Most listmembers are very willing to accomodate good ideas, though you
will often find the reply to be "can't fit that idea in right now, but
in the next stage of the story I'd really appreciate it if your
character could..."

Similarly, keep a degree of flexibility. Often, excellent ideas will
come from someone else watching your plot: be receptive. Remember, this
is _interactive_ fiction.

We recommend that you contact someone privately before jumping into
their story; most will appreciate the help, but it is impolite to say
something happened without warning them first.

NOTE: Some mailers will automatically attempt to reply to the list
server, so you may be forced to enter the email address of the person
you wish to contact as opposed to the REPLY command.



When generating stories that push the envelope of Shadowrun (i.e,
involve AIs, new magic, new corporations, new technology, or events that
would make front-page news in the Seattle newsfax), you should discuss
it on PLOT-D. There, you can get an idea as to how people will react,
and get suggestions on how to make it work better if there's a problem.

Also, the veteran members of this list can tell you if you are repeating
a story that has already been done. For example, maniac terrorists have
been used a lot recently. This doesn't mean that you can't do a
terrorist plotline, just that you should try to make it innovative and
fresh in some way.


********** E. Registering a Character
There are literally hundreds of major and minor characters who rear
their heads into the ShadowTalk storyline. In an effort to make keeping
tabs on the individual characters a little easier, all participants are
encouraged to register their character. Registering a character is a
very simple procedure. You simply send your character name, real name,
e-mail address and a brief description of your character's background.
Send your character to the maintainer of the cast list, Mark Imbriaco .
Be sure to include the word "CAST:" in the subject line of your message.

Even simpler is to use a Web browser and go to:

http://www.itribe.net/shadowrun/cast-db/



Because of limitations in the editing software, please limit your
submissions to one character per mailing. If you have several characters
to register, send each of them in a seperate mail message. Also, for
characters that are not used often or appear only briefly, it is
probably best, in the interest of the size of the cast list, to not send
in backgrounds for all characters.

Finally, there is a format you MUST follow to register your characters
The format looks like this: Character Name -- Your Real Name -- <--two
dashes Up to an eight line description of the character. Say what you
need to say and no more. Include mannerisms and whatever. Be fun. We
don't need a complete physical description, though. For characters with
real name, use the last-name first method.

EXAMPLE:
Yoshida, Joseph --Robert Hayden --
President of the large corporation Yoshida Technologies. Father to
Norman Yoshida. Largely responsible for the development of several early
cybernetic components. Often considered in the 'runner community to be a
'nice' corp. Joseph is an Eagle adept and politically powerful in the
Eagle community.


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4: GETTING CURRENT AND PAST LOGS
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A. Getting edited logs via HTTP and FTP.
Edited versions of the ShadowTalk logs are available on the following
site:

URL: http://listproc.itribe.net/listserv/shadowtk-edited/
IP # [199.3.224.17]

The edited version of the logs will have all of the headers and
signatures removed so that you can simply read a series of postings. For
this reason, you can see why it would be helpful to following the
posting format outlined in part 3:A and 3:B.

The editing of these files will have to be done manually and using the
correct format will greatly speed up this process.

Unedited (raw) versions of the ShadowTalk Logs can be found at the
following sites:

URL: http://listproc.itribe.net/listserv/archives/
IP # [199.3.224.17]

URL: ftp://listproc.itribe.net/pub/listserv/
IP # [199.3.224.17]

Questions about the archive site for raw logs should be forwarded to the
LISTSERV maintainer, Mark Imbriaco .


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5: SUPPLEMENTAL MAILING LISTS
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There are two small mail mailing lists that ShadowTalk readers can
subscribe to. To summarize the lists:

TK-LOG: Joining this list will cause you to receive a copy of the weekly
edited log. The edited log is identical to the regular postings to
ShadowTalk, but the administrative postings, mistakes and mailing
headers have been removed. This distribution preceeds the edited logs
being available on FTP by a few days.

TK-CAST: Subscribers to this list will get a copy of the current cast
listing mailed to them sometime around the beginning of every month.
Note that this is the ONLY way to automatically get a copy of the cast
listing as, due to its size, it is not posted to the list. If you are
active in the Shadowtalk storylines, it is recommended strongly that you
'subscribe' to this distribution.

HOW TO SUBSCRIBE: Subscribing is handled in a fashion thatexactly the
same as how you subscribed to the Shadowtalk list, but some of the names
are a little different. To subscribe, you send an email message to an
automated listserver: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: BODY:
subscribe tk-log or subscribe tk-cast To unsubscribe, simply replace the
word 'subscribe' with 'unsubscribe' and you will be removed. You will
also get an informational packet that you should hang on to that will
summarize these procedures.

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6. LIST UTILITIES
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A. EMACS auto-wrapper
Richard Pieri has available an emacs script that will allow you to
automatically wrap, date, and send your messages, so that you do not
have to worry about formatting. You can get a copy via FTP at:
ftp.ccs.neu.edu:/pub/people/ratinox/emacs-lisp/shadowtalk.el

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7: PLOT-D
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A. What is PLOT-D
PLOT-D is a supplemental discussion list for ShadowTalk. The purpose of
PLOT-D is to discuss (as the name obviously implies) plotlines. It also
handles discussion of administrative issues in order to not clog
SHADOWTK or SHADOWRN with only remotely related issues. It is _HIGHLY_
recommended that you join PLOT-D if you are going to be participating in
the ShadowTalk storyline.

********** B. Subscribing to PLOT-D
PLOT-D's software operates very similiar to SHADOWTK's, and the method
of subscription is nearly identical. To subscribe, you send email with
the following parameters: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: 1st
line: subscribe plotd

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8. ADDITIONAL LIST INFORMATION
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
A. Just who are these administrators anyways?

Mark Imbriaco, 22, is currently working as Director of Engineering for
the Web Development branch of iTRiBE, a Norfolk, Virginia based company
that provides high bandwidth connectivity, and high-end World Wide Web
services to businesses world-wide. Some of Mark's hobbies include
Shaolin Kempo Karate, home video game systems (3do and Playstation,
especially), and developing cool new applications for the Web. Mark
married his high-school sweetheart, and had his first child, Zachary, in
February of 1997. Although he has temporarily taken time off from his
academic pursuits, he hopes to someday finish up the courses required
for a degree in Computer Science. Maybe. Someday. If he gets around to
it. If he could be an animal, Mark would be a falcon. [
http://www.itribe.net/~mark/ ]

Paul J. Adam, 27, is an engineering manager for GEC-Marconi Underwater
Weapon Systems, responsible for the main propulsion motor and the weapon
internal interfaces for the Sting Ray Lightweight Torpedo. This is both
more and less interesting than it sounds.... He married Hazel Barnes in
1994, and they live (with their cat Jezebel) in Horndean, north of
Portsmouth, in Hampshire. That's the original Portsmouth, "old"
Hampshire, and all this is in Great Britain. Paul is a Bachelor of
Engineering, an Associated Member of the IMechE, and if he had to be an
animal he'd want to be a fox.

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=-=-= [ Last update: 7 July 1997 | Updated By: Paul J. Adam]




--
There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy...

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 2
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: FAQ v.5
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 01:22:12 +0100
The following is my update to Part 1 of the FAQ (somewhat tardy, for
which I apologise).

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Welcome to SHADOWTK.

This document is Part 1 of a two-part FAQ related to the mailing list
ShadowTalk (SHADOWTK). It contains a brief overview of the the purpose
of the mailing list as well as instructions on how to subscibe,
unsubscribe and navigate the mazes of LISTSERV-LITE.

Part II of the FAQ contains additional information about the list,
including guidelines and rules relating to characterization and
formatting. It is important you read and abide by the formatting
guidelines or you will be deleted from the list.

Thanks for your interest, Virtually...The SHADOWTK Listowners
Mark Imbriaco "New Fearless Leader"
Paul Adam "Nice Guy Dread Executor"
Brian Rogers "Nasty Guy Dread Executor"
Dan 'Nightfox' Waisley "Faithful Editor"
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Frequently Asked Questions for SHADOWTK@********.ITRIBE.NET
Version 5 (7 July 1997)

Originally compiled by your original Fearless Leader:
Robert Hayden hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu

Maintained by your Nice Guy Dread Executor:
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk

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I. INTRODUCTION
A. What is SHADOWTK?
B. How do I subscribe to SHADOWTK?
C. How do I post to SHADOWTK?
D. How do I unsubscribe to SHADOWTK?
E. Other Important LISTSERV-LITE Commands.
F. Why am I getting deleted from the list for no reason?
G. Why does the list reject postings from my account?
H. HELP! Mail from the list has stopped coming, but I'm still
subscribed!

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PART I: INTRODUCTION
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********** A. What is ShadowTK?
Shadowtalk is an interactive fiction mailing list based on the paper &
pencil role-playing game Shadowrun, published by FASA. Members of the
list post as characters in genre, and by responding to each other's
posts "in character", stories are developed. These stories may then be
used by players and GMs alike as a basis for contacts, NPCs, and
adventure plots in their own campaigns.

Shadowrun takes place in Seattle 61 years in the future. Cybernetics,
Virtual Reality, and biotechnology are available to the public.
Furthermore, Magic exists and is controlled by mages and shamans, and
mythical beings once again roam the land. Megacorporations, each with
the power of small nations, rule the politics and hold the ultimate
stranglehold on the underclass. Surviving in the world of Shadowrun
takes as much courage as it does skill. And perhaps just a little luck.

********** B. How do I subscribe to SHADOWTK?
To subscribe, you must send a control message to the list processor at
listproc.itribe.net. To do this, sendm email with the following
parameters: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: 1st line: subscribe
shadowtk In a little while you should get email confirming your
subscription to the list, after which you should begin getting regular
postings.

********** C. How do I post to SHADOWTK?
To post to SHADOWTK, you send your posting via email to
SHADOWTK@********.ITRIBE.NET. Make sure that you have read the Posting
Guidelines portion of this FAQ before you post to the list.

********** D. How do I unsubscribe to SHADOWTK?
To unsubscribe, you must send a control message to the list processor at
listproc.itribe.net. To do this, send email with the following
parameters: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: 1st line: unsubscribe
shadowtk In a little while you should get email confirming your
unsubscription request.

********** E. Other Important LISTSERV-LITE Commands.
There are many commands you can give to the listserv in order to change
how your subscription works.

SET listname REPRO (default): This command will have the listserv
include you in the distribution of any posting you make (ie, you get
your own things back, too).

SET listname ACK: This is simply an confirmation of the posting you just
made. It is returned to you in email.

SET listname NOMAIL: If you are going on vacation or something, sending
a NOMAIL command will halt your receiving any postings. This is helpful
if you know that your quota will be exceeded during Christmas break, for
example. WARNING: If you forget to do this and your quota is exceeded,
this will cause all of the postings to be bounced back to the list,
possibly leading to a loop. The only way to quickly alleviate this
problem is to delete your subscription, so PLEASE use the NOMAIL command
if you are going to be gone for a while.

SET listname DIGEST: When this option is set, instead of all of the
postings being delivered separately, they will be delivered in one
mailing at the close of the day (in HEARN's timezone). This is helpful
if the number of mailings become a burden.

SET listname MAIL (default): This option is invoked to restore active
status after sending a NOMAIL request, and is also used to change from
DIGEST back to getting all postings separately.

HELP: Sending this command will give you a listing and brief
descriptions of all available commands.

********** F. Why am I getting deleted from the list for no reason?
99% of the time, the reason you are deleted from the list (by the
listowner) is because for some reason mail is bouncing off of your
account. Usually this is caused by one of two reasons.

Either A) your account is filled and can't hold any more or B) for some
reason your account is not available (either the machine or your account
is down). When this happens, it causes an error message to be sent back
to the list. The list software attempts to detect error messages and
route them to the listowner.

Sometimes, though, the error is not detected by the listproc software
and the error gets reported to the list. This causes the error message
to get sent our to all subscribers, including the person who is bouncing
mail. This leads to a loop that really messes things up. Thus, standard
procedure when an error message is reported it to delete the
subscription of the person causing the error. Once the problem has been
fixed (you are back on the net or have room), you are, of course, free
to join the list again.

********* G. Why does the list reject postings from my account?
As part of some security features of the list software, the list will
only accept mailings that come from the same address your subscription
is registered on. This is to prevent non-list people from flooding the
mailboxes of dozens of people. Because of this, if you attempt to post
from another account or machine, your message will be rejected. Please
read the error message enclosed with your rejection and determine what
you must do to fix it in the future.

********* H. HELP! Mail from the list has stopped coming, but I'm still
subscribed!
Mail has an annoying characteristic in that, while most of the time it
is instantaneous, there are times when it can take up to two weeks to go
from one computer to another that is located ten feet away (much like
snail mail, eh?). If mail suddenly suddenly stops coming, wait at least
48 hours before you contact the listowner. Very likely a link is down
between you and the list, and as soon as that link comes back up, you
will get all of the old mailings.
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--
There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy...

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 3
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: FAQ v.5
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:44:10 -0700
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Paul J. Adam wrote:

> The following is my update to Part 1 of the FAQ (somewhat tardy, for
> which I apologise).

One small comment that has bearing on both FAQ's. When you discuss
subscribing and unsubscribing to the various lists (shadowtk in FAQ pt. 1,
plotd in FAQ pt. 2) you say:

> ********** B. How do I subscribe to SHADOWTK?
> To subscribe, you must send a control message to the list processor at
> listproc.itribe.net. To do this, sendm email with the following
> parameters: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: 1st line: subscribe
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> shadowtk In a little while you should get email confirming your
> subscription to the list, after which you should begin getting regular
> postings.

The part I highlighted with carrats might be a bit confusing to some
people who haven't already subscribed. You mean to say that the subject
line should be left blank and the command should be in the first line of
the post, and while I figure most people will eventually figure that out,
it isn't all that clear. Wasting a bit more space by making this point
clearer would help.

For instance:

**********
...listproc.itribe.net. To do this, send email with the following
parameters:

TO: listserv@********.itribe.net
SUB: [leave blank]
Body of message: subscribe shadowtk

In a little while, you should get email confirming....

**********

Also in FAQ pt. 2 in the "4 rules for character usage:

> 4: Above All, HAVE FUN! If you want to get involved with an existing
> story, or wish to invite someone else to yours, your best bet is to
> discuss it on PLOT-D (See part 7). If you do not subscribe to that list,
> or want to keep your involvement secret (the better to startle everyone
> with a shocking plot twist) you can still contact people privately with
> the REPLY command.
>
> Most listmembers are very willing to accomodate good ideas, though you
> will often find the reply to be "can't fit that idea in right now, but
> in the next stage of the story I'd really appreciate it if your
> character could..."
>
> Similarly, keep a degree of flexibility. Often, excellent ideas will
> come from someone else watching your plot: be receptive. Remember, this
> is _interactive_ fiction.
>
> We recommend that you contact someone privately before jumping into
> their story; most will appreciate the help, but it is impolite to say
> something happened without warning them first.
>
> NOTE: Some mailers will automatically attempt to reply to the list
> server, so you may be forced to enter the email address of the person
> you wish to contact as opposed to the REPLY command.

A nitpick really, but the "NOTE:" paragraph at the bottom of this
logically follows the "4: Above" paragraph. A little cut and past should
fix that.

The elaborated posting recomendations are good, and will be useful for new
posters before they get a chance to look at the "new posters guide."

One final question: Who exactly decided who was the Nice Guy vs. Nasty
Guy Dread Executors? o_O?

--My two yen

Jeff
Message no. 4
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: FAQ v.5
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:13:55 +0100
In message <Pine.SGI.3.95.970715182536.15146A-100000@*****.ugcs.caltech.
edu>, Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU> writes
>On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Paul J. Adam wrote:
>> The following is my update to Part 1 of the FAQ (somewhat tardy, for
>> which I apologise).
>
>One small comment that has bearing on both FAQ's. When you discuss
>subscribing and unsubscribing to the various lists (shadowtk in FAQ pt. 1,
>plotd in FAQ pt. 2) you say:
>
>> ********** B. How do I subscribe to SHADOWTK?
>> To subscribe, you must send a control message to the list processor at
>> listproc.itribe.net. To do this, sendm email with the following
>> parameters: TO: listserv@********.itribe.net SUB: 1st line: subscribe
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Glitchy editor (the archived FAQ I was working from lost a lot of line
breaks). Thanks for the proofreading.

>Also in FAQ pt. 2 in the "4 rules for character usage:
>
>A nitpick really, but the "NOTE:" paragraph at the bottom of this
>logically follows the "4: Above" paragraph. A little cut and past should
>fix that.

No problem.
>
>The elaborated posting recomendations are good, and will be useful for new
>posters before they get a chance to look at the "new posters guide."

Oops. Pete, sorry I forgot, I'll add the URL for the newcomer's guide to
the FAQ.

>One final question: Who exactly decided who was the Nice Guy vs. Nasty
>Guy Dread Executors? o_O?

Mark, Brian and I came up with it between ourselves when both Brian and
I volunteered :)

--
There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy...

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk

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