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Message no. 1
From: Zebulin Magby zebulingod@*****.com
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:47:55 -0800 (PST)
Just to make a point, Hal happens to be a rather powerful decker in my campaign and
has just figured out how to mask his time from the server logs. That's why his time
is **:**:** but there is still a date.

I hope this doesn't present a problem, as I don't plan on it becoming a standard by
any means.

Zeb
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Message no. 2
From: Ratinac, Rand (NSW) RRatinac@*****.redcross.org.au
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:49:39 +1100
> Just to make a point, Hal happens to be a rather powerful
> decker in my campaign and
> has just figured out how to mask his time from the server
> logs. That's why his time
> is **:**:** but there is still a date.
>
> I hope this doesn't present a problem, as I don't plan on it
> becoming a standard by
> any means.

Oh, we're supposed to explain when we do this? :)

If anyone's interested in why Seraph has hers all blanked out, you can ask.
I don't intend to make it public knowledge yet (unless someone asks her
nicely - then she might answer :) ).

Doc'
Message no. 3
From: Frank Pelletier (Trinity) fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:31:49 -0500
"Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" once wrote,

> Oh, we're supposed to explain when we do this? :)
>

I think the FAQ mentions something like that, but anyways, in the three
years I've been here, I think we had this discussion before...

ShadowTK prefers to limit the number of "god" characters. Hence, deckers
with no date/timestamps are a rare commodity. I am not against a few
others, especially if they have a well defined background, but I hope this
does not turn out to be a common occurance.

For the record, I'm all for Hal's tricks, because he's the first to do it in
a while. As long as we only have a few, I think there's no problem...

Frank Pelletier
Fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
"Let them hate me, provided they fear me" - Atreus
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Message no. 4
From: Ratinac, Rand (NSW) RRatinac@*****.redcross.org.au
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:44:24 +1100
> I think the FAQ mentions something like that, but anyways, in
> the three
> years I've been here, I think we had this discussion before...
>
> ShadowTK prefers to limit the number of "god" characters.
> Hence, deckers
> with no date/timestamps are a rare commodity. I am not against a few
> others, especially if they have a well defined background,
> but I hope this
> does not turn out to be a common occurance.
>
> For the record, I'm all for Hal's tricks, because he's the
> first to do it in
> a while. As long as we only have a few, I think there's no problem...

Well, like I said, if you really want to know, someone should ask Seraph IC.

Doc'
Message no. 5
From: James Dening james@************.force9.co.uk
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:27:31 -0000
On Friday, March 10, 2000 1:48 AM, Zebulin Magby [SMTP:zebulingod@*****.com] wrote:
> Just to make a point, Hal happens to be a rather powerful decker in my campaign and
> has just figured out how to mask his time from the server logs. That's why his time
> is **:**:** but there is still a date.
>
> I hope this doesn't present a problem, as I don't plan on it becoming a standard by
> any means.

Fine - I was going to post something about this....that's two chars who're masking their
stamps popped up in one week!!

I was planning a general post from one of the big AAA's, regarding an upgrade to server
timestamp security and Pop! All those time/date stamps are visible again....

Then again, if you wanted to write something showing how you hacked the new security
to get rid of it, then, well.... :-)))

Hey, that's not a bad idea....if you want a character without a time/date stamp, you have
to
tell us all at great length HOW they hacked it!

Paul?

J.
Message no. 6
From: Mike Broadwater neon@******.backbone.olemiss.edu
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:06:03 -0600
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:
>
> Well, like I said, if you really want to know, someone should ask Seraph IC.
>
> Doc'
>
Noooo....you need to explain to us why you be shold allowed to do this.
Why it isn't always necessary to explain a characters actions, in fact, it
rarely is, in this instance, you are making a statement that your
character is supremely powerful (more powerful than "normal") in some
regard, and chooses to flex their muscle in an obvious way. Courtesy
dictates that since this is a relatiely new characer, you give us some
explination. On Shadowtk, everone's Sr world view needs to coexist, and
sometime, you have to soften what you tink you can do because the list
doesn't believe ou can do it. However, the list can be pretty lenient,
and will let almost anything fly if it's explained well enough.

Mike Broadwater
not dead
Message no. 7
From: Paul J. Adam plotd@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Hal's timedate stamp
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:09:09 +0000
In message <006b01bf8a49$8d156ae0$2fb5a7ce@*******>, Frank Pelletier
(Trinity) <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> writes
>"Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" once wrote,
>
> > Oh, we're supposed to explain when we do this? :)
>>
>
>I think the FAQ mentions something like that,

It does. It's discouraged... (this is why Quinn still uses time/date,
despite her best efforts)

>ShadowTK prefers to limit the number of "god" characters. Hence, deckers
>with no date/timestamps are a rare commodity. I am not against a few
>others, especially if they have a well defined background, but I hope this
>does not turn out to be a common occurance.
>
>For the record, I'm all for Hal's tricks, because he's the first to do it in
>a while. As long as we only have a few, I think there's no problem...

I don't mind it being done, as long as the implications and consequences
are properly understood.

--
There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy...

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk

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