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Message no. 1
From: "Michael R. Goldberg" <mrgoldbe@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: JICES and MagicNet
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:29:45 -0500
Actually, I have two separate things to ask/comment about.

#1) Later this week, JICES will be filing with the SEC in UCAS to do an
IPO. (ie. Scourge lost a major battle to Black Knight.) Ratspeak will
catch it pretty quickly and post an open question to Scourge. There
should probably be _some_ reaction to it on the list, but maybe not
much.

[It will also involve JICES in the corporate wars, which may not be a
bad thing.]

#2) What would be the best way of capturing a MagicNet discussion on
the list that would get other people involved? I hesitant to do it
outright on Shadowland (err shadowtk) because then there would be no
way to deny that the topic is basically about Death.

My logic (such as it may be) is that if the topic of posessions (and
how to effectively deal with them, etc.) is brought up through a throw
away handle on MN, while Death my notice it and feel vaguely threatened
by it, he can only respond via another throw-away handle.

(Basically, the person who wants to ask about it can hide better on
MagicNet (through the various threads that are invariably discussed on
that node) than on shadowtk.)

I'm certainly open to suggestions. I suspect the magically active
characters on the list would probably all have various opinions on what
would happen given different possible solutions to "healing" a
possessed person.

Mike
Message no. 2
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: JICES and MagicNet
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:19:07 -0700
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Michael R. Goldberg wrote:

> Actually, I have two separate things to ask/comment about.

> #2) What would be the best way of capturing a MagicNet discussion on
> the list that would get other people involved? I hesitant to do it
> outright on Shadowland (err shadowtk) because then there would be no
> way to deny that the topic is basically about Death.

My initial preference would be to simply have the post start with the
heading:

*****Internal: MagicNet

This would effectively denote that it was not within the bounds of
Shadowland. I think it should be sufficient to keep it seperate from the
main list, but still visable to the STk readership. It probably shouldn't
be overused too much or effectively it could become like a seperate list
running concurrently. But it would be important for posters and
respondants to realize that MagicNet is of the same order of size as
Shadowland, so what is said there is about as "common knowledge" as a
public post on Shadowland, at least among the magical community. Suffice
to say that using the MagicNet header would open it up those of us with
magicians or other characters who like to dabble in that sort to thing and
maintain contact with MagicNet and Shadowland both, and even allow some
others into the mix if they choose to come up with throw-away posters only
on MagicNet to toss their two yen in on the problem.

> My logic (such as it may be) is that if the topic of posessions (and
> how to effectively deal with them, etc.) is brought up through a throw
> away handle on MN, while Death my notice it and feel vaguely threatened
> by it, he can only respond via another throw-away handle.

> (Basically, the person who wants to ask about it can hide better on
> MagicNet (through the various threads that are invariably discussed on
> that node) than on shadowtk.)

Besides that, it is a lot more germain to ask a bunch of mages about
things magical than a mixed group of mages, sams, riggers, and deckers.

> I'm certainly open to suggestions. I suspect the magically active
> characters on the list would probably all have various opinions on what
> would happen given different possible solutions to "healing" a
> possessed person.

Well, there is a canonical answer to the problem that any summoner could
tell you: exorcise the spirit, but that is often easier said than done.
Exorcism has advanced as a technique far beyond the poor priest that had
Linda Blair firing pea soup all over him, but asking five mages how to
conduct an exorcism and you'll get six answers. Problem is, magically
banishing a possessing spirit, rather than annihilating it like banishment
usually does, only disrupts the spirit for a time, so you may have to deal
with the bugger coming back.

--Catch you later

Jeff
Message no. 3
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: JICES and MagicNet
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:54:20 +0100
On 29 Apr 98 at 17:19, Jeffrey Mach wrote:
> > #2) What would be the best way of capturing a MagicNet discussion on
> > the list that would get other people involved?
[snip]
> My initial preference would be to simply have the post start with the
> heading:
>
> *****Internal: MagicNet
>
I agree, although we should keep it consistent with other encryptions, and
name it:

***** INTERNAL: MagicNet

and as such, have someone put it in the FAQ (*whistle innocently, nmot
looking at Paul*) and the nebie's guide (*whistle even more innocently,
looking not at Avenger*)

Sascha
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Message no. 4
From: "Michael R. Goldberg" <mrgoldbe@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: JICES and MagicNet
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:43:07 -0500
Sascha wrote:
>On 29 Apr 98 at 17:19, Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>> > #2) What would be the best way of capturing a MagicNet discussion
>> > on the list that would get other people involved?
>[snip]
>> My initial preference would be to simply have the post start with
>> the heading:
>>
>> *****Internal: MagicNet
>>
>I agree, although we should keep it consistent with other encryptions,
>and name it:
>
>***** INTERNAL: MagicNet
>

Personally, I always thought that
***** Private:
***** Internal:
***** Not to:

looks more appealing than the caps versions that are the style in the
FAQ. I guess I have three reasons for saying that. 1) Personal taste.
2) My e-mail account already does the To: From: Subject: thing in a
mixed-case format, and I know from personal experience that it isn't
_THAT_ hard to code something like a format for a header however one
likes it. And 3) Caps tend to come across as shouting to me.

*shrug*

Completely, IMO.

M.
Message no. 5
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: JICES and MagicNet
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:17:14 +0100
On 30 Apr 98 at 23:43, Michael R. Goldberg wrote:
[snip mixed/upper case]
> Personally, I always thought that
> ***** Private:
> ***** Internal:
> ***** Not to:
>
> looks more appealing than the caps versions that are the style in the
> FAQ. I guess I have three reasons for saying that. 1) Personal taste.
> 2) My e-mail account already does the To: From: Subject: thing in a
> mixed-case format, and I know from personal experience that it isn't
> _THAT_ hard to code something like a format for a header however one
> likes it. And 3) Caps tend to come across as shouting to me.
>
> *shrug*
>
> Completely, IMO.

Of course there's no problem for a computer system to accept mixed-case
adresses. In my opinion, it just helps a lot to seperate individual
messages when viewing them in an edited form to have them all upper case -
like headers in books or html formats.

Just MHO, of course.
Sascha
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