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Message no. 1
From: "Michael R. Goldberg" <mrgoldbe@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:44:10 -0600
I figure this will probably get somebody's attention, so I would post
it here.

On Saturday night (Seattle Time), Killing Zone shows up at the Easy
Eight. They basically hang out and unwind. If left alone, they won't
seek out attention. If the locals talk to them, they will be social
though. They try not to steal the limelight from the singer, but that
may not be something that is left up to them. (If asked by Easy, they
will actually leave, pick up their gear and play an impromptu gig, but
that wasn't why they came. [Paul just let me know if that happens.])

If asked why in town, they say that they prefer recording music at home
and that they have some stuff in the works. (They are rather vague on
what in particular they are working on.) [If Easy asked when the band
wasn't in public, she would get some different answers, but then again,
she's a friend that they know and trust.]

Feel free to mention it as color for various posts if you want. (I'll
be checking my account in roughly 48 hours most likely. Feel free to
e-mail me if you want to run something by me though...)

Later,
Mike
Message no. 2
From: Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:40:58 -0800
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Michael R. Goldberg wrote:

> I figure this will probably get somebody's attention, so I would post
> it here.

That it did...that it did.

> On Saturday night (Seattle Time), Killing Zone shows up at the Easy
> Eight. They basically hang out and unwind. If left alone, they won't
> seek out attention. If the locals talk to them, they will be social
> though. They try not to steal the limelight from the singer, but that
> may not be something that is left up to them. (If asked by Easy, they
> will actually leave, pick up their gear and play an impromptu gig, but
> that wasn't why they came. [Paul just let me know if that happens.])

NB: Saturday night 2060 == Sunday night 1999

Uh...er...um. Given that the singer (actually, with a synthax, she is
effectively a one-person band) is someone they've met before...yet not.
Well, not like it wasn't going to be painfully obvious by Monday, but
Quicksilver == Seren. And I've made it a point that Quicksilver, as
Quicksilver, has gone to at least a couple Killing Zone gigs, and even
met some of those in the band. So, *erk*. Suffice it to say that if
any of the Killing Zone members or "entourage" are magically active
(there are a few now and then), and any bother to look on the astral
plane, things could get _REAL_ awkward if they were to make the
connection, because Seren and Quicksilver have the exact same aura
(which looks, more or less, like Quicksilver as herself [in natural
state]). If you want to do this while Seren is playing at the Eight,
could I please ask that we envoke writer fiat and either a) avoid
anybody from their group from looking at her astrally [maybe have her
casually avoid the persons she suspects of being astrally active] or b)
give them a foggy enough memory of seeing her that they don't make the
connection. Elsewise, this would get MIGHTY awkward, since both Easy
and Mani _also_ met Quicksilver at a Killing Zone get together, and
making the connection now would basically nix a _lot_ of planning,
plotting, and writting. If that is acceptable to you, then hey, I can
live with it, and in fact, makes our plot all the more interesting and
interwoven.

Seren's definitely going to be sweating bullets internally (and trying
_very_ hard not to show it). Hmmm...means I'd have to do a little
tweaking to a post I was planning (Paul, you know the one). I suppose
once she understood the coast was clear (nobody getting any sudden
flashes of recognition while looking at her), perhaps with a single
"Have we met?" scare, she'd probably graciously and deferentially offer
the stage to them, seeing as they are a "real" band and she's just an
amateur, although they'd have to have their own equipment, or somehow
pass her synthax among them and do solos. She'd cover up any avoidance
of the band by feigning feelings of inferiority being in the presence of
professionals.

> Feel free to mention it as color for various posts if you want. (I'll
> be checking my account in roughly 48 hours most likely. Feel free to
> e-mail me if you want to run something by me though...)

ERp...hmmm. Well, here's hoping this gets to you. I'm sending this to
plotd, since it serves as a case-in-point warning of why it is good to
mention on plotd when you are planning on doing public things that might
bump the toes of other writers.

--My two yen

Jeff
Message no. 3
From: "Michael R. Goldberg" <mrgoldbe@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 13:27:34 -0600
Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU> wrote at Sat, 23 Jan 1999 01:40:58 -0800

>> On Saturday night (Seattle Time), Killing Zone shows up at the Easy
>> Eight.
>
>NB: Saturday night 2060 == Sunday night 1999

I guess. Been a while since I drew up a calendar for SR. (I got back
from my brief trip earlier than I was expecting....)

>Uh...er...um. Given that the singer (actually, with a synthax, she is
>effectively a one-person band) is someone they've met before...yet
>not. Well, not like it wasn't going to be painfully obvious by Monday,
>but Quicksilver == Seren. And I've made it a point that Quicksilver,
>as Quicksilver, has gone to at least a couple Killing Zone gigs, and
>even met some of those in the band. So, *erk*. Suffice it to say
>that if any of the Killing Zone members or "entourage" are magically
>active (there are a few now and then), and any bother to look on the

[Mark (aka Blitzkrieg) is barely magically active.]

>astral plane, things could get _REAL_ awkward if they were to make the
>connection, because Seren and Quicksilver have the exact same aura
>(which looks, more or less, like Quicksilver as herself [in natural
>state]). If you want to do this while Seren is playing at the Eight,
>could I please ask that we envoke writer fiat and either a) avoid
>anybody from their group from looking at her astrally [maybe have her
>casually avoid the persons she suspects of being astrally active] or
>b) give them a foggy enough memory of seeing her that they don't make
>the connection. Elsewise, this would get MIGHTY awkward, since both
>Easy and Mani _also_ met Quicksilver at a Killing Zone get together,
>and making the connection now would basically nix a _lot_ of planning,
>plotting, and writting. If that is acceptable to you, then hey, I can
>live with it, and in fact, makes our plot all the more interesting and
>interwoven.

Umm. I don't think you [as a writer -- not the character] need to
worry. Even if Mark did astrally scan her again and figured out one
plus one, [not that I'm saying he will do that,] he isn't likely to say
anything. 1) He doesn't want to cause a scene and 2) this isn't the
first person he has discovered playing a role within a role and 3) it's
not like he doesn't have secrets that he wants to keep quiet as well.

>Seren's definitely going to be sweating bullets internally (and trying
>_very_ hard not to show it). Hmmm...means I'd have to do a little
>tweaking to a post I was planning (Paul, you know the one). I suppose
>once she understood the coast was clear (nobody getting any sudden
>flashes of recognition while looking at her), perhaps with a single
>"Have we met?" scare, she'd probably graciously and deferentially
>offer the stage to them, seeing as they are a "real" band and she's
>just an amateur, although they'd have to have their own equipment, or
>somehow pass her synthax among them and do solos. She'd cover up any
>avoidance of the band by feigning feelings of inferiority being in the
>presence of professionals.

The closest anyone comes to saying "Have we met?" scare is Mark. He
hesitates for a moment before greeting her and asking about what she's
done musically. Only Seren would catch the hesitation because others
think it is due to the fact that she is good looking. If he makes the
connection before, he doesn't let her know. (Unless she tries to draw
out that fact pretty hard. I'm not sure how he would react to that, so
let me know if she tries that.)

The bands reaction to the amateur bit is best summed up by Zombie:
"Drek. If you are getting paid for it, you aren't exactly an amateur.
Unrecorded? Perhaps. Amateur? Not any more."

As far as playing goes, the band hesitates before Mark says, "Well,
Seren, frankly we just came to relax. We certainly have no objection
to having some friends bring our gear down and then play, but it wasn't
first on our minds. At any rate, we would need to talk to Easy before
doing that to see if it is okay with her. After that, we would call to
get our gear here, which will probably take an hour (or so)." [It
would turn out to be closer to an hour and half.] He smiles and
continues, "So that gives you plenty of time to do your normal set."

>> Feel free to mention it as color for various posts if you want.
>>(I'll be checking my account in roughly 48 hours most likely. Feel
>>free to e-mail me if you want to run something by me though...)

[I'm earlier than I was expecting. But this is just a reminder, if you
want me to respond in the next ten hours, you probably should send it
directly to me, as I'm on digest for both lists and won't see the copy
from plot-d until 10 pm MST.]

>ERp...hmmm. Well, here's hoping this gets to you. I'm sending this
>to plotd, since it serves as a case-in-point warning of why it is good
>to mention on plotd when you are planning on doing public things that
>might bump the toes of other writers.

Yes, it is a good reminder. The funny part is, I had no intention of
screwing up your plot, but merely figured that enough people travelled
through the Easy Eight that someone was bound to notice.

*shrug* [Although I did remember that the band has met Quicksilver.
*grin*]

Mike
Message no. 4
From: Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:50:40 -0500
In our last episode, Michael R. Goldberg wrote:
>
> >NB: Saturday night 2060 == Sunday night 1999
>
> I guess. Been a while since I drew up a calendar for SR.

Not that I'm prone to Spamming a mailing list with my URL or anything,
BUT ...

At the BKK, we have a Calendar Section, recreating(?) all of the years
from 2050 thru 2065:

www.intercom.net/user/logan1/cal.htm current year, 2060
www.intercom.net/user/logan1/cal59.htm 2059
/cal58.htm 2058
(you get the idea...) etc.


--Fenris (re-engaging "lurk" mode)

_______________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
Still Knobi after all these years!
www.intercom.net/user/logan1/bkk.htm
Message no. 5
From: Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 19:07:28 -0800
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Logan Graves wrote:

> In our last episode, Michael R. Goldberg wrote:
> >
> > >NB: Saturday night 2060 == Sunday night 1999
> >
> > I guess. Been a while since I drew up a calendar for SR.
>
> Not that I'm prone to Spamming a mailing list with my URL or anything,
> BUT ...

I'll do you one better, since I did it last year:

(Ah the wonders of UNIX)

Note: 2060 is a Leap Year (has a Feb 29th) which will throw things off a
little, or a lot, depending on how it was handled last time. On one
hand, it could screw up dates by one day for an entire year (until Feb.
29, 2000), or we could kinda blur Feb. 28-Mar. 1 together with a little
temporal compression (three days passing in two, while two days will
pass in three in 2000).

How are we going to handle it? (This question mostly pointed at the
list executives)

--Catch you later

Jeff
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Message no. 6
From: Logan Graves <logan1@*****.INTERCOM.NET>
Subject: Re: Killing Zone returns to Seattle
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:49:48 -0500
In our last episode, Mach wrote:
>
> Note: 2060 is a Leap Year (has a Feb 29th) which will throw things off
> a little, or a lot, depending on how it was handled last time.

Indeed it is. <Quick peek to my site> Yup there's a Sunday the 29th in
the month of February. For a minute I thought you meant that I'd
fragged it up.

As a side note, Win95/98 users can use the "Date/Time set" -GUI to view
the Year 2060 or whenever.

But a word of caution: Windows ('95 at least) doesn't appreciate this
kind of fiddling & often becomes unstable afterwards.

--Fenris
_______________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
(>) "How was I supposed to know he was an unarmed man?
His back was to me."
(>) Axly Suregrip

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