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Message no. 1
From: Michael Goldberg michael.goldberg3@********.att.net
Subject: List participation
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:10:49 -0600
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:45:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Imbriaco <mark.imbriaco@*****.com>

>That subject line got your attention, huh? Good. We're having some
serious
>problems with the amount of traffic and participation in ShadowTk lately.
In
>my opinion, what we need is some fresh blood in here -- our membership has
>stagnated over the past couple of years and we've been relying on the same
>people day-in and day-out to keep the flow of stories going. Any
suggestions
>on how we might be able to attract some new list members would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Please post followups to Plot-D.
>
>-Mark

Part of the list's decline, IMHO, is that there are way too many cool things
to do in way too short of a period. I actually have story ideas, I just
don't have the bandwidth to investigate them. I personally blame my
computer.

I only found out about the list (frighteningly long ago) by accident. I had
a friend who was investigating listservs at the time and let me leaf through
the list. It seems to me, if we could find a way to better advertise the
list, we might have some interest from outside people.

The most obvious one (that comes to me at the moment) is to talk to FASA
about having a link to Shadowrun related sites on their website and have a
link for us with an ability to read some highlight stories from the past,
with a way to do hook line and sinker sales pitch to draw them in.

Otherwise there are newsgroups but I've often wondered about the quality
factor when doing that.

In truth, to draw others, you need to have some sort of story going that
would involve others. I unfortunately, really haven't had the time to open
up my stories (or even post remotely enough to keep them going).

Mike
Message no. 2
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: List participation
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:48:44 -0600
At 20:10 06/10/99 -0600, Michael Goldberg wrote:

>The most obvious one (that comes to me at the moment) is to talk to FASA
>about having a link to Shadowrun related sites on their website and have a
>link for us with an ability to read some highlight stories from the past,
>with a way to do hook line and sinker sales pitch to draw them in.

FASA has no plans to do this. They apparently think that a link to external
sites means that they endorse the site, and while I can understand their
position to a degree, I want links from fasa.com to my site, damnit! :P

Adam
< http://shadowrun.html.com/tss / adamj@*********.html.com / ICQ# 2350330 >
Message no. 3
From: Simon Schossleitner simonbio@*****.fu-berlin.de
Subject: List participation
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:40:02 +0200 (MEST)
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Michael Goldberg wrote:

>
> I only found out about the list (frighteningly long ago) by accident. I had
> a friend who was investigating listservs at the time and let me leaf through
> the list. It seems to me, if we could find a way to better advertise the
> list, we might have some interest from outside people.

Yes, indeed

> Otherwise there are newsgroups but I've often wondered about the quality
> factor when doing that.

A problem in more than way, as I for one reading that shy away from
participation.

>
> In truth, to draw others, you need to have some sort of story going that
> would involve others. I unfortunately, really haven't had the time to open
> up my stories (or even post remotely enough to keep them going).

Not only would a story like that help in introducing new characters, but
some characters which are not on this list since the eve of time would be
fitting too. thought about maybe eventually starting a story too but have
yet to gather the courage to do it. Lots of things have been written on
this list and there were times whe I couldn't wait for the next post to
arrive, but on the same hand this quality leads to a certain reluctance in
participating, as not to lower the standard, as I perceived it.
Returning some sort of ongoing "get to know"-story or new storys, my
problem is that there is a certain difficulty in creating a story that
isn't parallell to the existing TK-Universe insofar as only new people act
and the plot is unlinked to anything else.

In short: if anyone would lend me a hand I'd be happy to think of
something


-Simon
Message no. 4
From: Michael Goldberg michael.goldberg3@********.att.net
Subject: List participation
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:10:49 -0600
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:45:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Imbriaco <mark.imbriaco@*****.com>

>That subject line got your attention, huh? Good. We're having some
serious
>problems with the amount of traffic and participation in ShadowTk lately.
In
>my opinion, what we need is some fresh blood in here -- our membership has
>stagnated over the past couple of years and we've been relying on the same
>people day-in and day-out to keep the flow of stories going. Any
suggestions
>on how we might be able to attract some new list members would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Please post followups to Plot-D.
>
>-Mark

Part of the list's decline, IMHO, is that there are way too many cool things
to do in way too short of a period. I actually have story ideas, I just
don't have the bandwidth to investigate them. I personally blame my
computer.

I only found out about the list (frighteningly long ago) by accident. I had
a friend who was investigating listservs at the time and let me leaf through
the list. It seems to me, if we could find a way to better advertise the
list, we might have some interest from outside people.

The most obvious one (that comes to me at the moment) is to talk to FASA
about having a link to Shadowrun related sites on their website and have a
link for us with an ability to read some highlight stories from the past,
with a way to do hook line and sinker sales pitch to draw them in.

Otherwise there are newsgroups but I've often wondered about the quality
factor when doing that.

In truth, to draw others, you need to have some sort of story going that
would involve others. I unfortunately, really haven't had the time to open
up my stories (or even post remotely enough to keep them going).

Mike
Message no. 5
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: List participation
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:48:44 -0600
At 20:10 06/10/99 -0600, Michael Goldberg wrote:

>The most obvious one (that comes to me at the moment) is to talk to FASA
>about having a link to Shadowrun related sites on their website and have a
>link for us with an ability to read some highlight stories from the past,
>with a way to do hook line and sinker sales pitch to draw them in.

FASA has no plans to do this. They apparently think that a link to external
sites means that they endorse the site, and while I can understand their
position to a degree, I want links from fasa.com to my site, damnit! :P

Adam
< http://shadowrun.html.com/tss / adamj@*********.html.com / ICQ# 2350330 >
Message no. 6
From: Simon Schossleitner simonbio@*****.fu-berlin.de
Subject: List participation
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:40:02 +0200 (MEST)
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Michael Goldberg wrote:

>
> I only found out about the list (frighteningly long ago) by accident. I had
> a friend who was investigating listservs at the time and let me leaf through
> the list. It seems to me, if we could find a way to better advertise the
> list, we might have some interest from outside people.

Yes, indeed

> Otherwise there are newsgroups but I've often wondered about the quality
> factor when doing that.

A problem in more than way, as I for one reading that shy away from
participation.

>
> In truth, to draw others, you need to have some sort of story going that
> would involve others. I unfortunately, really haven't had the time to open
> up my stories (or even post remotely enough to keep them going).

Not only would a story like that help in introducing new characters, but
some characters which are not on this list since the eve of time would be
fitting too. thought about maybe eventually starting a story too but have
yet to gather the courage to do it. Lots of things have been written on
this list and there were times whe I couldn't wait for the next post to
arrive, but on the same hand this quality leads to a certain reluctance in
participating, as not to lower the standard, as I perceived it.
Returning some sort of ongoing "get to know"-story or new storys, my
problem is that there is a certain difficulty in creating a story that
isn't parallell to the existing TK-Universe insofar as only new people act
and the plot is unlinked to anything else.

In short: if anyone would lend me a hand I'd be happy to think of
something


-Simon

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