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Message no. 1
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:56:02 -0400
Okay, got an idea, wanted to run it by the crew to make sure there's no
opposition.

WARNING!! It does contain information relevent the Blood in the Boardroom
adventure/story, so if you DON'T wish to know what happened in that
adventure, skip to the next message IMMEDIATELY!!

To my knowledge and recollection, there's no stated reason why the Tokyo
Stock market crashed, in any of the source material.

However, on Oct. 6, a new company called Novatech, based right in Boston,
UCAS is formed by Richard Villiers. Seems that he's been buying his own
parts of Fuchi (he's the President of Fuchi) with the grand plan of forming
his own company without having to deal with his two major rivals within
Fuchi (the Nakatomis and some other family I can't recall the name of right
now).

Well, I got the idea that the "strange patterns" that my recent TK post
from The Marketeer would be Richard Villiers taking advantage of the most
fortuitous events to snap up even more of Fuchi right from under his
rival's noses on the cheap. (How exactly he's managing to pull all this
off, I'm not really sure, but he's doing it somehow). This of course
accelerates his plans to launch his own company, pushing it too...yup, Oct. 6.

So basically I'm linking the two events together, without really having any
basis within SR canon to do so. Hence, me asking if there are objections.

As for who/what caused the crash, I'll leave that open to speculation.

Erik J.


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Message no. 2
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark.imbriaco@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:51:00 -0400
On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Erik Jameson wrote:

> So basically I'm linking the two events together, without really having any
> basis within SR canon to do so. Hence, me asking if there are objections.

I say do what you like. All of the material that you post is coming in by
way of the Marketeer's analysis of the situation. That gives you a lot of
leeway because it's not necessary that he always be correct. Treat it
like the shadow comments in the sourcebooks.

-Mark
Message no. 3
From: Lorna Buck <lorna@******.FR>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:58:46 +0100
> From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
> To my knowledge and recollection, there's no stated reason why the Tokyo
> Stock market crashed, in any of the source material.

Didn't think so.
>
> However, on Oct. 6, a new company called Novatech, based right in Boston,
> UCAS is formed by Richard Villiers.
<snip>
> Well, I got the idea that the "strange patterns" that my recent TK post
> from The Marketeer would be Richard Villiers taking advantage of the most
> fortuitous events to snap up even more of Fuchi right from under his
> rival's noses on the cheap. (How exactly he's managing to pull all this
> off, I'm not really sure, but he's doing it somehow). This of course
> accelerates his plans to launch his own company, pushing it too...yup,
Oct. 6.
>
> So basically I'm linking the two events together, without really having
any
> basis within SR canon to do so. Hence, me asking if there are
objections.

I'd guess those that have capital are doing exactly the same thing
worldwide, either for short-term advantage (Quinn's buying back shares in
her shipping company to consolidate her hold on it) or long-term gain (of
the eight megacorps - nine, really, now - enough will grow and prosper that
buying across the board will net a sizeable long-term gain).

No objections from me at all.

> As for who/what caused the crash, I'll leave that open to speculation.

Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honour" has an interesting scenario whereby Wall
Street suffers a similar crash, with trading having to be suspended and
then records destroyed, due to manipulation of the expert systems that do
much of the routine dealing (especially those that trigger 'unload!'
orders).

Quinn almost speculated on such, but I thought I'd better run it by TK
first. I don't know that a cause for this will ever be clearly identified
(if only because of the swift and certain fate of those held responsible)

--
Paul
Message no. 4
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:27:17 -0400
At 10:51 AM 10/2/98 -0400, you wrote:

>> So basically I'm linking the two events together, without really having any
>> basis within SR canon to do so. Hence, me asking if there are objections.
>
>I say do what you like. All of the material that you post is coming in by
>way of the Marketeer's analysis of the situation. That gives you a lot of
>leeway because it's not necessary that he always be correct. Treat it
>like the shadow comments in the sourcebooks.

Okay Mark. Sounds good to me, just wanted to make sure there weren't any
objections. I didn't really think there would be, but better safe than sorry.

Erik J.


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Message no. 5
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:27:23 -0400
At 04:58 PM 10/2/98 +0100, you wrote:

>I'd guess those that have capital are doing exactly the same thing
>worldwide, either for short-term advantage (Quinn's buying back shares in
>her shipping company to consolidate her hold on it) or long-term gain (of
>the eight megacorps - nine, really, now - enough will grow and prosper that
>buying across the board will net a sizeable long-term gain).
>
>No objections from me at all.

Okay, cool. According to what I can remember of what I read, the stock
market does recover, though it does take a while. Doesn't seem to have a
major affect on the megas, though I'd imagine that there are private
individuals that are wiped out (slightly different reason to begin
shadowrunning, eh?) and probably even some A or lower tier corporations
(either collapsing or being gobbled up, and probably lots of the later once
folks begin to recover and think straight).

>> As for who/what caused the crash, I'll leave that open to speculation.
>
>Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honour" has an interesting scenario whereby Wall
>Street suffers a similar crash, with trading having to be suspended and
>then records destroyed, due to manipulation of the expert systems that do
>much of the routine dealing (especially those that trigger 'unload!'
>orders).
>
>Quinn almost speculated on such, but I thought I'd better run it by TK
>first. I don't know that a cause for this will ever be clearly identified
>(if only because of the swift and certain fate of those held responsible)

Heck, I say she can speculate as much as she wants. Remember, this is a
woman that claims to have astrally walked upon the moon as I recall.

I'm gonna guess that the Crash of 59 (known in-game as "White Monday" since
the 29th in 2059 would apparently be a Monday, but not RL), if it is ever
revealed why it happened (and I doubt it will), it'll appear in fiction
somewhere down the road.

Erik J.


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Message no. 6
From: Jhary-a-Conel <Jhary-a-Conel@***.NET>
Subject: Re: MegaWatch: Worst Stock Market Crash in 70 Years!
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:16:12 +0200
On 1 Oct 98, at 12:56, Erik Jameson wrote:
[snip Tokio crash/Novatech]
> So basically I'm linking the two events together, without really having any
> basis within SR canon to do so. Hence, me asking if there are objections.
As its repeatedly pointed out, Villiers did get most of the
corporations that build the backbone of Novatech from Fuchi himself.
That he _might_ be able to further his plot with the crash, _if_ he
managed to get his money out of the stock market fast enough, is
uite obvious. Well, I could believe it, and I can believe he'll have
other, non-stockmarket related, resources he might throw in the pool.
I don't think there could be too much objections against your
conclusion, especially not if you keep them as rumours. No,
following Oct 6th, there WILL be such rumors for sure.


Jhary
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