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Message no. 1
From: Paul J. Adam PlotD@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Opportunity
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:31:52 +0100
For anyone who checks... enquiries reveal that Suden Seen Gewerbeusch
GmBH checks out as a smallish tramp line, owning a single ship (the MV
_Legitimate Business Practice_) which is a 35,000-ton dwt LASH carrier.

They've been in business for about five years, as far as can be told:
their public record goes back to 2057, and while they seem to be
distinctly shady they've also got a good record for repaying loans and
honouring dividends and bond issues on similarly favourable terms to
those offered here.

Anyone who wants to *really* dig, let me know.
Message no. 2
From: Zebulin Magby zebulingod@*****.com
Subject: Opportunity
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:56:06 -0700
"Paul J. Adam" <PlotD@********.demon.co.uk> wrote:


> For anyone who checks... enquiries reveal that Suden Seen Gewerbeusch
> GmBH checks out as a smallish tramp line, owning a single ship (the MV
> _Legitimate Business Practice_) which is a 35,000-ton dwt LASH carrier.
>
> They've been in business for about five years, as far as can be told:
> their public record goes back to 2057, and while they seem to be
> distinctly shady they've also got a good record for repaying loans and
> honouring dividends and bond issues on similarly favourable terms to
> those offered here.
>
> Anyone who wants to *really* dig, let me know.
>
>

Oh, Dawn Treader has a few contacts who'll *really* be digging, you can
count on that. What do we find? :)


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Message no. 3
From: Paul J. Adam PlotD@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Opportunity
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:45:03 +0100
In message <003c01c01c54$3bf1b220$a7dd1018@******.or.home.com>, Zebulin
Magby <zebulingod@*****.com> writes
>Oh, Dawn Treader has a few contacts who'll *really* be digging, you can
>count on that. What do we find? :)

Suden Seen Gewerbeusch GmBH is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Rodriguez
Shipping PLC, a London-based freight company whose sole proprietor is
Baroness Glamis, the Lady Susan E. Rodriguez KT DSC.

It seems SSG GmBH is a deniable front end used for high-value high-
profit high-risk runs by Rodriguez Shipping.

On close investigation it turns out they regularly (every three to five
months) raise several million in capital (on junk bonds or nonvoting
stock) at a remarkably good promised rate of return. So far, they've
always paid up as promised.

There are regular and frequent allegations that SSG GmBH are involved in
major-league gunrunning to Third World hellhole warzones, but nobody's
ever brought charges let alone made them stick. It would explain how
they can afford to pay 25% on a one-year bond, if they're raising
capital to buy a cargo.

On further close investigation... there is no voting stock for any
subsidiary of Rodriguez Shipping in circulation. It exists, but it's all
held by three corporate bodies: by Rodriguez Shipping, by Rusanov's
Rebels Incorporated, and by the Trevilla Foundation.

Nonvoting stock exists, is freely traded, and while the dividends are
not generous they've been regularly paid: but while there's an apparent
bid price for the voting stock, there is none available for sale.
--
Paul J. Adam
Message no. 4
From: Ratinac, Rand (NSW) RRatinac@*****.redcross.org.au
Subject: FW: Opportunity
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:38:46 +1000
> So tell me - can your people handle <eye-boggling sum>? I've
> been doing well
> of late. You'd be surprised how much money you can make on the stock
> exchange when you know a corp is going to take a hit to their
> profit margin.
> And it isn't even insider trading. Exactly. <weg>
> -- Seraph <??:??:??/**-**-**>

Btw, if you're wondering, an "eye-boggling" sum is a sum that's both
eye-popping and mind-boggling. ;)

Doc'
Message no. 5
From: Mark Imbriaco mark.imbriaco@*****.com
Subject: FW: Opportunity
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:30:02 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Ratinac, Rand (NSW) wrote:

> Btw, if you're wondering, an "eye-boggling" sum is a sum that's both
> eye-popping and mind-boggling. ;)

I guess that's better than mind-popping. ;-)

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"The big question is whether the planet will disappear in the twinkling of
an eye. It is astonishingly unlikely that there is any risk - but I could
not prove it." - John Nelson
Message no. 6
From: Ratinac, Rand (NSW) RRatinac@*****.redcross.org.au
Subject: FW: Opportunity
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:35:13 +1000
> > Btw, if you're wondering, an "eye-boggling" sum is a sum that's both
> > eye-popping and mind-boggling. ;)
>
> I guess that's better than mind-popping. ;-)

That's what I thought. ;)

Doc'
Message no. 7
From: Scott W see_scott_run@*****.com
Subject: FW: Opportunity
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:42:42 -0700 (PDT)
>> I guess that's better than mind-popping. ;-)

> That's what I thought. ;)

I like the imagery better too...while mind-popping seems nice and
messy, eye-boggling...well, you remember Boggle, that game where you
shake a bunch of white cubes around in a clear box?
Eye-Boggle-ing...ewwww :P

====Scott

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Message no. 8
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: FW: Opportunity
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >> I guess that's better than mind-popping. ;-)
>
> > That's what I thought. ;)
>
> I like the imagery better too...while mind-popping
seems nice and messy, eye-boggling...well, you
remember Boggle, that game where you shake a bunch of
white cubes around in a clear box?
Eye-Boggle-ing...ewwww :P
> Scott

Yes, there's that, too. :)

====Doc'
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