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Message no. 1
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 12:44:07 -0700 (MST)
Well - this plot seems to be picking up speed :)

Just incase people missed it - Claw is trying to get everyone together so
that we ALL can compare Ploughshare info.

In this meeting a few things should come forward (I hope)

1. Farmer was there before Ploughshare and is connected to this
earlier from Easy and Redemption (lets everyone know about farmer)
(I looked it up - Farmer never posted openly, and was never talked
of openly.)

2. Farmer wanted Lynch and Lilith dead (this brings in Lilith)

3. Farmer also had problems with Squatter (which brings in Squatter)


We will also start "hunting Lynch". Make it confusing.

Claw, because he never heard of Lynch, can be the main hunter. Other could
hunt or not with a few trying to convince the others that Lynch is not
Ploughshare. We want them to think we believe Lynch is it, and that we are
confused and not working together. <grin>


So - What do you folks think?

Nightfox
Message no. 2
From: William Kristoph Wonch <00095857@******.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 14:53:11 -0500 (CDT)
Okay, Farmer did post openly. Once. He was hiring for a run. This
is how Redemption became involved. It was wetwork, a hit on Lynch and
Lillith DiAnnio. This is also how Squatter became involved.
Redemption knows Lynch is not Ploughshare because before he was
attacked in the restaurant he met with Lynch and warned him about
Farmer. The only connection we may have with Farmer is through the
middlemen that contacted Easy about the fragged run.

These may lead to Ploughshare, and eventually Farmer.
Message no. 3
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 13:11:07 -0700 (MST)
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, William Kristoph Wonch wrote:
> Okay, Farmer did post openly. Once. He was hiring for a run. This
> is how Redemption became involved.

I didn't find it when I looked (it may have somehow been removed from the
logs - they are mostly automated in editing - so screwups do occur.

I did notice that he was highered to kill lynch - but I thought that it
went out by private email - or not using the name Farmer.
(will search more)

> It was wetwork, a hit on Lynch and
> Lillith DiAnnio. This is also how Squatter became involved.
> Redemption knows Lynch is not Ploughshare because before he was
> attacked in the restaurant he met with Lynch and warned him about
> Farmer. The only connection we may have with Farmer is through the
> middlemen that contacted Easy about the fragged run.

Actually - Farmer contacted Easy at some point as well.

Farmer wanted Lynch dead. Lynch framed as ploughshare - farmer is similar
to ploughshare - Its a lot of little pieces that fit togther.

Nightfox
Message no. 4
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 15:20:30 -0500
> Ploughshare. We want them to think we believe Lynch is it, and that we are
> confused and not working together. <grin>

Lynch is good people in my book. I would never have anything to do with
hunting him down. I know he didnt try to kill drake, and, he takes a
good pot shot at Jason / Kor when one is offered (no one else really bothers
digging on him, well, other than Freddy, but he's dead). I'd line up on
Lynch's side, trying to take Imp and Easy with me.
Message no. 5
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 19:10:31 -0400
Good plan, but as of tomorrow I will be on a 10 day vacation without any
access to my account. I sent out message to here last night, at the same
time as the conversation between Buzz and Shadow, but it never seemed to make
it to the list.

Tom
Message no. 6
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:37:35 +0100
In message <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960802123359.539017277H-
100000@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>, NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU> writes
>
>Well - this plot seems to be picking up speed :)
>
>Just incase people missed it - Claw is trying to get everyone together so
>that we ALL can compare Ploughshare info.
>
>In this meeting a few things should come forward (I hope)
>
>1. Farmer was there before Ploughshare and is connected to this
> earlier from Easy and Redemption (lets everyone know about farmer)
> (I looked it up - Farmer never posted openly, and was never talked
> of openly.)

He did, once, and cryptically. Redemption answered that one, which
brought him in.
>
>2. Farmer wanted Lynch and Lilith dead (this brings in Lilith)
>
>3. Farmer also had problems with Squatter (which brings in Squatter)

Lynch passes on the names Farmer, Tractor, Ploughshare, Scarecrow, Old
MacDonald and Harrow, from the back door Karlsbruhn nearly died finding.
Farmer seems to be the top man, Ploughshare a field agent. Who the
others are, he doesn't know yet.

>We will also start "hunting Lynch". Make it confusing.
>
>Claw, because he never heard of Lynch, can be the main hunter. Other could
>hunt or not with a few trying to convince the others that Lynch is not
>Ploughshare. We want them to think we believe Lynch is it, and that we are
>confused and not working together. <grin>

Sounds fine to Lynch as long as everyone remembers to aim to miss :)

>So - What do you folks think?

You know this was meant to be a throwaway? :) I love this list for the
way you toss a pebble and see it become a landslide. Let's see where it
goes. Sheesh, Operation Wild Rose may get blown wider than I thought...

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 7
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:26:51 +0100
In message <199608022020.AA05533@****.crhc.uiuc.edu>, Brian Rogers
<rogers@****.uiuc.edu> writes
>
>> Ploughshare. We want them to think we believe Lynch is it, and that we are
>> confused and not working together. <grin>
>
>Lynch is good people in my book. I would never have anything to do with
>hunting him down. I know he didnt try to kill drake, and, he takes a
>good pot shot at Jason / Kor when one is offered (no one else really bothers
>digging on him, well, other than Freddy, but he's dead).

Oh, boy, I can see it coming at the end of the year... a string of
explosions in San Fransisco, by the Sons of Frypp, the First Church of
Freddy, or the Freddy Frypp Memorial Army... :)

Been working back through the logs (managed to skim most of '95 by
now)... Damn shame about Freddy.

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 8
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 17:25:40 -0700 (MST)
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 Craigtw1@***.com wrote:
> Good plan, but as of tomorrow I will be on a 10 day vacation without any
> access to my account. I sent out message to here last night, at the same
> time as the conversation between Buzz and Shadow, but it never seemed to make
> it to the list.

Tom, Persmission to use Buzz to help crack the NSA system and find stuff on
Ploughshare and Farmer?

Otherwise I will just steel CB from her other run. (which reminds me that I
need to send mail on that one.)

Injuries very probable. no death. Headware damage (since I know Buzz has
a c2) kept to a minimal (minor fixing, CB could do it with AJ opening and
closing.)

Spirit - burns out the deck (slightly hard part of the mission, and her
deck is more expendable. They only sell for a few million on the market.)
(head surgery is a pain.)


Nightfox
Message no. 9
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 17:31:14 -0700 (MST)
On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Paul J. Adam wrote:
> He did, once, and cryptically. Redemption answered that one, which
> brought him in.

Ah - no name in the openm post :)

> Lynch passes on the names Farmer, Tractor, Ploughshare, Scarecrow, Old
> MacDonald and Harrow, from the back door Karlsbruhn nearly died finding.
> Farmer seems to be the top man, Ploughshare a field agent. Who the
> others are, he doesn't know yet.

Will have Spirit do a check

> Sounds fine to Lynch as long as everyone remembers to aim to miss :)

first we have to find him (I plan on that taking a few days - after all,
Claw hasn't hunted in Seattle in nearly 12 months - normally it takes him a
day or two to find people (longer depending on how low a profile they keep
(Lynch is NOT low profile. <grin>)

> You know this was meant to be a throwaway? :) I love this list for the
> way you toss a pebble and see it become a landslide. Let's see where it
> goes. Sheesh, Operation Wild Rose may get blown wider than I thought...

isn't it GREAT!!!!!!, Thats why its an interactive List. Heck the BEST
plots have always been the ones where we started off as something small and
it grew from there (more input from other people in the right amounts made
things into wonderful plots - of course the same input has caused other
plots to falter and flag.)


Nightfox
Message no. 10
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 17:33:54 -0700 (MST)
Plan on the BIG meet being Saturday night.

I'll check my mail tonight or tomorrow morning
(man - these cross seas plot-lines leave no time for rest.)

Oh - While I agree that Kor would be perfect for being on the Jason side,
I think Easy might be better portraying one of the Lynch haters (since she
is one of the majorly fragged over.)

Nightfox
Message no. 11
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 20:58:23 -0400
Oh, something else, Dragon/Dracon Daimyo might get involved, it's called
fragging with one of his blood brothers.

Tom
Message no. 12
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:26:38 -0500
> In message <199608022020.AA05533@****.crhc.uiuc.edu>, Brian Rogers
> <rogers@****.uiuc.edu> writes
> >
> Oh, boy, I can see it coming at the end of the year... a string of
> explosions in San Fransisco, by the Sons of Frypp, the First Church of
> Freddy, or the Freddy Frypp Memorial Army... :)
>
> Been working back through the logs (managed to skim most of '95 by
> now)... Damn shame about Freddy.
>

Freddy was one of my favorites. Just old enough to have damned fine taste
in music, and young enough to still enjoy going out and having acouple while
watching the pretty women walk by. Ahhh...The days.
Message no. 13
From: jaimie.nicholson@********.otago.ac.nz (Jaimie Nicholson)
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:36:48 +1200 (NZST)
Nightfox said:

>Claw, because he never heard of Lynch, can be the main hunter. Other could
>hunt or not with a few trying to convince the others that Lynch is not
>Ploughshare.
>
>So - What do you folks think?

Squatter would say that either:
a) farmer is not allied to Ploughshare, and Lynch could be PS,
or b) farmer is allied to Plougshare, and Lynch is not PS.

He'd go for b, because he knows a little about the farmer-SIGA clash.

He will also want to know who Miss Haversham is. G-woman?

And he will bring a free spirit in with him, though it will stay
unobtrusively in the astral in case anything happens.

Nightfox again:

>Tom, Persmission to use Buzz to help crack the NSA system and find stuff on
>Ploughshare and Farmer?

Squatter will be happy to help you there too, if you like.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 14
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 12:31:16 +0100
In message <v01530505ae291e8eff03@[139.80.228.113]>, Jaimie Nicholson
<jaimie.nicholson@********.otago.ac.nz> writes
>He will also want to know who Miss Haversham is. G-woman?

Lynch doesn't know... except her information is pretty accurate. The
original director of SIGA wasn't quite the spotless angel she portrayed
when she met with Redemption, but wasn't too bad all told: a little
political, is all. Bartlett was even worse than she said...

And it _was_ Lynch and Lilith, plus a few friends, who attacked SIGA HQ
and killed the Director. That was a real horrorshow, as far as Lynch was
concerned.

>And he will bring a free spirit in with him, though it will stay
>unobtrusively in the astral in case anything happens.

<squeak squeak> :)


--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 15
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 12:18:42 +0100
In message <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960802173121.539026795C-
100000@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>, NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU> writes
>Plan on the BIG meet being Saturday night.
>
>I'll check my mail tonight or tomorrow morning
>(man - these cross seas plot-lines leave no time for rest.)

:) Time zones, dontcha love'em?

>Oh - While I agree that Kor would be perfect for being on the Jason side,
>I think Easy might be better portraying one of the Lynch haters (since she
>is one of the majorly fragged over.)

Sounds okay to me. She doesn't think it was Lynch, though she hardly
knows him (just that if he'd tried to kill her, she'd probably be dead)
but is quite happy to fake hunting him if it gets her a shot at
Ploughshare.

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 16
From: William Kristoph Wonch <00095857@******.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 08:51:55 -0500 (CDT)
Redemption will be at the meet, as will Glaive. Who will be writing?
I can see this being a very long post.
Message no. 17
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:41:13 +0100
In message <9608051351.AA10755@******.unl.edu>, William Kristoph Wonch
<00095857@******.unl.edu> writes
>Redemption will be at the meet, as will Glaive. Who will be writing?
>I can see this being a very long post.

Could end up being me :)

Who's there, who's asking what? If we pool questions and responses, and
people send me character descriptions, I'll see what I can do.

The meeting "may not break onto SLand until the weekend" (meaning it'll
take that long to sort it out and write it).



--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 18
From: NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 12:40:13 -0700 (MST)
On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Paul J. Adam wrote:
> >Redemption will be at the meet, as will Glaive. Who will be writing?
> >I can see this being a very long post.
> Could end up being me :)
>
> Who's there, who's asking what? If we pool questions and responses, and
> people send me character descriptions, I'll see what I can do.
>
> The meeting "may not break onto SLand until the weekend" (meaning it'll
> take that long to sort it out and write it).

DO we really need to post the meeting?

I am writing up the matrix run on the NSA where Spirit and Buzz find the
fake NSA account. They want to do this so that they can keep an eye on it
and hopefully trace it back to its source. :)

I was figuring that the info they found would be revealed with the other
info at the meeting (I do tend to have a dislike for non essential posts
especially private ones where the only people they go to where the people
who where there.

Basically what we need is a compiling of ALL the info that each CHARACTER
knows. So I'll start in my next post.

Nightfox
Message no. 19
From: William Kristoph Wonch <00095857@******.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 15:18:55 -0500 (CDT)
> DO we really need to post the meeting?
>
> I am writing up the matrix run on the NSA where Spirit and Buzz find the
> fake NSA account. They want to do this so that they can keep an eye on it
> and hopefully trace it back to its source. :)
>
> I was figuring that the info they found would be revealed with the other
> info at the meeting (I do tend to have a dislike for non essential posts
> especially private ones where the only people they go to where the people
> who where there.
>
> Basically what we need is a compiling of ALL the info that each CHARACTER
> knows. So I'll start in my next post.
>
> Nightfox

This might be a trick. Redemption has had two deckers try this
previously. Be careful. Also, Squatter may want in on the action.
Not for sure, though.

I can post what Redemption knows here:
He had just arrived in Seattle, when a run was posted by Farmer. He
applied and was accepted for the run, which was to kill Lillith and
Lynch. Being the thourough guy he is, hired a couple of deckers to
check things out a bit, one of which was Squatter.

The two deckers turned up some impressive info on Lilith and Lynch,
but nothing on Farmer. Shortly after that, Farmer threatened
Redemption, telling him to call off his search or bad things would
happen.

Redemption warned Lynch, and was contacted by Haversham, a woman who
is still a mystery. The woman warned him about that killing Lilith
and Lynch would cause a war between the agencies in the UCAS govt.
Redemption said fine, and has heard nothing from her since. He
recently tried to contact her, but has heard nothing as of yet.

After this, he was hired for the infamous run, and is still a bit
crispy because of that.

He got information regarding the NSA tie in from Lynch, and has asked
Squatter to check it out, but has heard nothing there yet, either.

Glaive is sort of taking a backseat to Redemption in this story. He
doesn't know anything except that he completed a run for someone, and
they tried to blow him up. He's just pissed.
Message no. 20
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 23:12:17 +0100
In message <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960805120457.539029799A-
100000@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>, NIGHTFOX <djwa@******.UCC.NAU.EDU> writes
>On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Paul J. Adam wrote:
>> Who's there, who's asking what? If we pool questions and responses, and
>> people send me character descriptions, I'll see what I can do.
>>
>> The meeting "may not break onto SLand until the weekend" (meaning it'll
>> take that long to sort it out and write it).
>
>DO we really need to post the meeting?

I'd be relieved if the answer was 'no' :)

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 21
From: jaimie.nicholson@********.otago.ac.nz (Jaimie Nicholson)
Subject: Re: ploughshare and Lynch
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:33:46 +1200 (NZST)
>> DO we really need to post the meeting?

I don't think so either. Here's what the squatter knows, and will tell:

Hired to check the background on Lilith and Lynch, and on farmer. Farmer
didn't like it, so they made some threats. Squatter had nowhere left to run
(he's been running for a long time now), and he dug in his claws. Went
searching for people who knew about farmer, must have alerted them, because
a guy came along, told me he was from something called SIGA. Never heard of
it, but he said they didn't like farmer. He told Squatter that Miss
Haversham was part of farmer, then left, saying it was too dangerous for us
to meet again. I thought he was lying (body language, etc.), and my Astral
Rat confirmed it (from watching his aura). Told Haversham about it, she was
not worried. That's about all.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON

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