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Message no. 1
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Riots and nasty happenings
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:45:44 +0100
OK, just for a little clarification so no mistakes are made. The riots
began on Saturday evening, following what had until then been a peaceful
(well mostly) demonstration march. It should be relatively evident what
has happened to cause the problems. The rioters aren't just CoT driven
looneys, they are also people from the area fighting for their lives.


Certain incidents have seen fit to continue the riot overnight, and
through today - first is the desperate measures finally employed by the
Police and Security to bring a semblance of order to the damn place, the
second is a series of explosions and shootings, public unrest,
disatisfaction and all the myriad of things that go together to make a
riot - we've all seen them, if not for real, then on the TV, and it is
very easy for something like this to get totally out of hand.


The battles are no longer just oriented towards racism, other causes
have found their way into this. However, I do see the riots dying in
the next few hours, with just sporadic gun battles between gangs and
vigilantes and Police. The majority of people will have "burned their
anger out" so to speak. I believe there are still a couple of planned
events to occur, but these are not likely to instigate such a total
reaction.


The attack on Haven (what can I say) that is likely to cause all sorts
of repurcussions (IMO) The anti magic crowd are going to have a field
day with the events in Redmond/Renton and other forces individuals are
going to have a lot of fun trying to figure out precisely what has
happened - and how.


I wonder, what the reaction of people who have only heard of haven as a
safe place for people and a site of learning will think when they see
this wall around it, and begin to realise the power that it took to
place it there. Well, it's not my game so there won't be panic and
terror in the streets, but I can't help wondering about that. (Hey
Paul, remember the conversation we had over on S'rn concerning mages
levelling city blocks with a simple gesture <g>)


Finally. <heh> There is a post heading for the list that will arrive
earlier than it should do, however I might not be able to log on
tomorrow evening (hopefully I can) but if not, I want to make sure this
gets to the list. It's set for daylight and post dated - hopefully that
won't cause any trouble. So, please try not to respond to it if you are
likely to until after it's stated time - thanks.


The other things that I've spoken to people about will still go ahead as
planned. This is not a small organsition, and in it's activities has
recruited enthusiastically. There is a great deal yet to be done to mop
up, there are still die hards who can't take the hint. Anyway, you'll
see what I mean. :)


Thanks everybody for everything you've done so far, it's been a blast.
Now as from tomorrow evening it'll be time to start mopping up the cells
and groups left lurking on the streets.

--
Avenger
Message no. 2
From: Brian Angliss <angliss@*****.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Riots and nasty happenings
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:39:54 -0600
>The attack on Haven (what can I say) that is likely to cause all sorts
>of repurcussions (IMO) The anti magic crowd are going to have a field
>day with the events in Redmond/Renton and other forces individuals are
>going to have a lot of fun trying to figure out precisely what has
>happened - and how.

Actually, that'll become known gradually when Val finally wakes up.

>(Hey
>Paul, remember the conversation we had over on S'rn concerning mages
>levelling city blocks with a simple gesture <g>)

Come on. :) Val is seriously powerful himself, yes, but there were 30+=
initiates (average Initiate grade is about 3) who knocked themselves out to=
do that. Plus they used what I've calculated out to be a living hermetic=
circle, druidic circle, and medicine lodge that's, on the lower end, force=
60. Seems reasonable enough to be able to do this.

Imagine what they can do when they start making the entire perimeter of=
Haven a living hermetic/druidic circle..... Force 6000 on the low end.... =
Of course, that's a minimum of about 250 days to make. Haven weilding that=
heavy duty power won't be a problem for several years, methinks.

Brian
Message no. 3
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Riots and nasty happenings
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:09:21 +0100
In article <v01510111b1693cb69ccb@[128.138.200.180]>, Brian Angliss
<angliss@*****.COLORADO.EDU> waffled & burbled about Riots and nasty
happenings
>>(Hey
>>Paul, remember the conversation we had over on S'rn concerning mages
>>levelling city blocks with a simple gesture <g>)
>
>Come on. :) Val is seriously powerful himself, yes, but there were 30+
>initiates (average Initiate grade is about 3) who knocked themselves out to do
>that. Plus they used what I've calculated out to be a living hermetic circle,
>druidic circle, and medicine lodge that's, on the lower end, force 60. Seems
>reasonable enough to be able to do this.

Nononononoono. Please don't get the wrong idea Brian, that wasn't a dig
old chap. :) Paul and I got involved in a very heated debate on s'rn
concerning the licencing of mages - used as an example was the levelling
of buildings, impenetrable barriers and mind control. Something the
general public could see hear or feel, and had no defence against. The
whole thing creating an anti mage lobby much like the anti gun lobby.
The more magic was used in violent acts, the larger this lobby was
likely to grow, blah blah blah.

>Imagine what they can do when they start making the entire perimeter of Haven a
>living hermetic/druidic circle..... Force 6000 on the low end.... Of course,
>that's a minimum of about 250 days to make. Haven weilding that heavy duty
>power won't be a problem for several years, methinks.

heh.. No comment. Nooooo comment. :)


<I wonder if that means a similar event is unlikely?> <s>

--
Avenger

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