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Message no. 1
From: jaimie.nicholson@********.otago.ac.nz (Jaimie Nicholson)
Subject: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:24:35 +1200 (NZST)
To those involved in rescuing Ronin from the clutches of Renraku, how's the
planning going? Remember, he'll be dead by sunday or monday. Consider this
an urgent enquiry from Phoenix, in the flesh.


We also need a standard format for watchers, how about this:

*****Watcher (shape): Recipient name
>>>>>[Message.]<<<<<
-- Conjuror name <time/date of arrival>

I would suggest leaving out the shape of the watcher in cases where it
doesn't matter. Also, the little buggers could probably be persuaded not to
say who conjured them, making the "conjuror name" bit optional as well.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD...
JAIMIE NICHOLSON, NEW ZEALANDER
Message no. 2
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Thu, 30 May 96 22:23:03 EDT
Jaimie Nicholson writes:
> We also need a standard format for watchers, how about this:

Uhhhhmmm... The nonstandard formats are already starting to get to the
point where they get hard to remember (there's at least two =). Not to
mention, after a certain point, irregular formats start to become a crutch
for crappy writing.

Why not just have the conjuror report to somebody else?


Evan Hughes | Webmaster
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Message no. 3
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 07:35:36 -0500
>*****Watcher (shape): Recipient name
>>>>>>[Message.]<<<<<
> -- Conjuror name <time/date of arrival>

Hmmm. You obviously don't understand what this board is, do you? The only
reason we have the "internal" flag is because a shadowland node might be
used as a relay point in inter matrix communications. Yeah, the important
stuff that we (the writers) see probably wouldn't happen, but doesn't matter
because at least it's till an matrix info transfer between to partys. So
the question is, what the fuck is a watcher doing on here? If you want to
have a watcher (who never come near the matrix) to post something, try and
find another way. There is a certain amount of suspension of disbelief on
this list, however, we are working within a certain paradigm, that this is
the ShadowLand matrix board. Try and go with that.

Mike Broadwater
"An object at rest cannot be stopped! Yeah, baby, yeah!" - The Evil
Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
Message no. 4
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.net>
Subject: Re: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:11:36 -0400 (EDT)
> To those involved in rescuing Ronin from the clutches of Renraku, how's the
> planning going? Remember, he'll be dead by sunday or monday. Consider this
> an urgent enquiry from Phoenix, in the flesh.
>
>
> We also need a standard format for watchers, how about this:
>
> *****Watcher (shape): Recipient name
> >>>>>[Message.]<<<<<
> -- Conjuror name <time/date of arrival>
>
> I would suggest leaving out the shape of the watcher in cases where it
> doesn't matter. Also, the little buggers could probably be persuaded not to
> say who conjured them, making the "conjuror name" bit optional as well.
>

No. Watcher's don't use the Matrix. Period. If you want to
tell the world what a watcher reported to you, do it some other
way.

-Mark
Message no. 5
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:58:34 -0500
[snip watcher idea]
> No.
[snipped reasons]
> -Mark
>
<applause> Thank you Mark.

Mike Broadwater
"An object at rest cannot be stopped! Yeah, baby, yeah!" - The Evil
Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
Message no. 6
From: "Randy Nickel (General)" <a-randyn@*********.com>
Subject: RE: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:29:15 -0700
On Friday, 05/31/96, Mark wrote:
No. Watcher's don't use the Matrix. Period. If you want to
tell the world what a watcher reported to you, do it some other
way.

Actually could'nt you just use *****Internal: Watcher reports to (insert name)?

- Otter
Message no. 7
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: RE: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:43:42 -0500
>On Friday, 05/31/96, Mark wrote:
> No. Watcher's don't use the Matrix. Period. If you want to
> tell the world what a watcher reported to you, do it some other
> way.
>
>Actually could'nt you just use *****Internal: Watcher reports to (insert
name)?
Before asking yourself whether something could be posted as internal, ask
yourself this, is it something that happens between two or more partys that
would travel over the matrix? A watcher talking to someone wouldn't. There
you go.

To qoute "Two Stupid Dogs":
"Isn't that cute, BUT IT'S WRONG!"

Mike Broadwater
"An object at rest cannot be stopped! Yeah, baby, yeah!" - The Evil
Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
Message no. 8
From: "Randy Nickel (General)" <a-randyn@*********.com>
Subject: RE: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:12:53 -0700
On Friday, 05/31/96, Mike wrote:
Before asking yourself whether something could be posted as internal, ask
yourself this, is it something that happens between two or more partys that
would travel over the matrix? A watcher talking to someone wouldn't. There
you go.

But for storyline sake sometimes it's good just to throw that stuff out
there. I am certainly interested in hearing/reading about things that a
Watcher might pass on. Maybe my characters don't know but it certainly makes
for interesting reading.

Also maybe someone recorded the conversation and then sent it over the
Matrix.

- Otter
Message no. 9
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 04:10:24 -0500
No the fuck we dont!

Find a better way to post that you got your informatin
tath way.

> We also need a standard format for watchers, how about this:
>
> *****Watcher (shape): Recipient name
> >>>>>[Message.]<<<<<
> -- Conjuror name <time/date of arrival>
Message no. 10
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: RE: Ronin Rescue and Watcher Debate
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:07:19 -0500
>Also maybe someone recorded the conversation and then sent it over the
>Matrix.
>
>- Otter
>
Good, then report it that way. Don't go and put half assed stuff on the
list when it doesn't fit within the list writing parameters. Post it as a
recorded conversation, not as a conversation that is happening.

Mike Broadwater
"An object at rest cannot be stopped! Yeah, baby, yeah!" - The Evil
Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon

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