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Message no. 1
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:49:31 -0800 (PST)
So, I think we chatted about this before, but don't I recall some sort of
verdict about T/D stamp modification?
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 2
From: Zelf the Worox <andbrown@*******.NoDak.edu>
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 11:59:48 -0600 (CST)
I do believe that the verdict was that VERY few should have them, and
from what I've seen so far only Buzz has it unless I'm reading it wrong.

Zelf the Worox(Andrew Brown)
Message no. 3
From: "Mark Imbriaco" <mark@******.net>
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:05:29 -0500
> Subject: T/D stamps...
> So, I think we chatted about this before, but don't I recall some sort of
> verdict about T/D stamp modification?

Well, not much of a verdict, but I think the consensus was that
only very exceptional deckers should be able to modify them, and
even then, it's usually not worth the effort, since it really
shouldn't be something that can easily be automated to happen
at the press of a button. Wow. What an ugly, run-on sentence
I've just made. I should be ashamed of myself. If I weren't
so lazy, I'd go back and fix it. :-)

-Mark
Message no. 4
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:16:06 -0500
If you are complaining about Buzz's T/D stamp...tough luck...he's a decker
and he modifies it BECAUSE it is a sign that he isn't losing his edge...
Tom
Message no. 5
From: "Mark Imbriaco" <mark@******.net>
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:23:20 -0500
On Nov 17, 1:12pm, Craigtw1@***.com wrote:
> Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
> If you are complaining about Buzz's T/D stamp...tough luck...he's a decker
> and he modifies it BECAUSE it is a sign that he isn't losing his edge...
> Tom

Tom, I don't think he was really complaining. Lighten up. :)

-Mark
Message no. 6
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 20:18:27 -0500
Mark, you want me to lighten up... It's a beauuuutiful morrrrrrning. It's a
beauuuuutiful daaaay...:)
Tom
Message no. 7
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:03:35 -0800 (PST)
According to Craigtw1@***.com:
>
> If you are complaining about Buzz's T/D stamp...tough luck...he's a decker
> and he modifies it BECAUSE it is a sign that he isn't losing his edge...

If you want to have Buzz modify his T/D stamp, there's not much to stop
you...note that it's certainly not a requisite for displaying possession of
"the edge". Don't you think that the process is just the slightest bit
ostentatious though? Normally I would think that a reputation can say
volumes more than a T/D stamp, but maybe that's just me.

I suppose we may have to agree to disagree on this issue...=)
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 8
From: bd042@***.org (SCN User)
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:46:57 -0800
Modifying your T/D Stamp has been, for some time, the mark of the
drek-hot decker who wants--needs to prove he's over the edge. This
is the case for Moonwalker, Buzz, and a few others. It is notably
not the case for the veterans like Tobai who, although they
undoubtedly have the skill & experience necessary to do so, don't
have that pressure to establish that rep.

figure like this. If you've got a combined street & matrix ettiquette
of 10 or more, you probably want it.
--Moonwalker
Message no. 9
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: T/D stamps...
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:11:12 -0500
Mark,
Buzz is well over 30 years old...and he's feeling it. He also has a Cranial
Cyberdeck, which is not even the equivalent of a Fairlight. Plus he is a
former CIA decker.
Tom
Message no. 10
From: Zelf the Worox <andbrown@*******.NoDak.edu>
Subject: T/D stamps
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:54:38 -0600 (CST)
Yes it has returned the T/D stamp arguement. I noticed over the weekend
that there were a few to many T/D stamp changes. I can handle Buzz and
Moonwalker except Moonwalker changing his stamp for every message. Then
there was the Corrupted list between Rightous and Jen and Gabe. I think
Ma Bell needs to step in and kick much ass. I just wanted to give a
warning before it happens and wanted to hear all the excuses one more time.

Brown(Zelf the Worox/John Doe)
Message no. 11
From: bd042@***.org (SCN User)
Subject: Re: T/D stamps
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:32:03 -0800
As I said before, this character has an in with the fone co., and
some extra hardware wired into their substation to generate one of
twelve set character strings, all of which are song or album titles.
Note that I don't use these when posting from the field because that
would require me to hack Ma Bell from that location first.
--Moonwalker ('nuffSaid)
Message no. 12
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 8:46:44 EST
Okay, now it's my turn. Aren't altered TD stamps getting a little bit of
overexposure again? They're only supposed to be used by VERY good
deckers.... Hemhem. =)


Evan Hughes | Webmaster
Honours Computer Science | Carleton Computer Science Society
http://chat.carleton.ca/~ehughes | http://omega.scs.carleton.ca/~ccss
Message no. 13
From: Robert Rodriguez <Robertr%tfn-ny.com@*********.tfn-ny.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:03:23 -0500
or have very,very Good Decker Friends....hem.hem *_*
--
"Intellectual growth and discovery clearly demonstrate the need to
THINK the unthinkable, DISCUSS the un-mentionable and CHALLENGE
the un-challengeable." ----- [C. Vann woodward]
----- "Do you wanna dance, or Did you pay 20 bucks to just
stand there lookin' stunning?" ---- [The only pick-up line]
Message no. 14
From: ragtag@****.caltech.edu (Robert A. Granat)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:56:51 -0800 (PST)
According to Evan Hughes:
>
> overexposure again? They're only supposed to be used by VERY good
> deckers.... Hemhem. =)

And sparingly, even by them. As I recall from the canon shadowtalk
files, fastjack doesn't use altered time-date stamps. In fact, only
one person I've seen in canon uses them.

It would be nice if people could refrain from including sigs as well.
I find that it tends to interfere with the atmosphere.

Thanks,

--RG
Message no. 15
From: Robert Rodriguez <Robertr%tfn-ny.com@*********.tfn-ny.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:55:17 -0500
Robert A. Granat wrote:
>
> According to Evan Hughes:
> >
> > overexposure again? They're only supposed to be used by VERY good
> > deckers.... Hemhem. =)
>
> And sparingly, even by them. As I recall from the canon shadowtalk
> files, fastjack doesn't use altered time-date stamps. In fact, only
> one person I've seen in canon uses them.at one time I believed as you did, But check
out the source books.... in
the latest ones more and more T/D stamps are altered. So what says that
some of the deckers here aren't that good? I figure if they find
shadowland easy enough to continually post to it, there damm well good
enough to change a T/D stamp...comments...
--
--
"Intellectual growth and discovery clearly demonstrate the need to
THINK the unthinkable, DISCUSS the un-mentionable and CHALLENGE
the un-challengeable." ----- [C. Vann woodward]
----- "Do you wanna dance, or Did you pay 20 bucks to just
stand there lookin' stunning?" ---- [The only pick-up line]
Message no. 16
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:03:22 -0800 (PST)
According to Robert Rodriguez:
> > one person I've seen in canon uses them.at one time I believed as you did, But
check out the source books.... in
> the latest ones more and more T/D stamps are altered. So what says that
> some of the deckers here aren't that good? I figure if they find
> shadowland easy enough to continually post to it, there damm well good
> enough to change a T/D stamp...comments...

This discussion took place on this list a while back. Among other things,
T/D stamp alteration on a regular basis is typically a sign of poseur-hood,
some sort of machismo display when what _really_ matters is reputation.
In other words, it's gauche to say the least, and possibly obtrusive for the
"authorities" to see.
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 17
From: neon@******.backbone.olemiss.edu (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:59:38 -0600
>I figure if they find
>shadowland easy enough to continually post to it, there damm well good
>enough to change a T/D stamp...comments...

If all it takes is the ability to get to shadowland to change t/d stamps,
then everyone on here can do it. My street sam, that guys mage, etc,
drekcetera. That's bs. Only the best deckers can/should be able to change
t/d stamps. Fastjack is the best decker in SR, and he doesn't. Smiling
Bandit is probably really close, and he does, but it's always the same. Do
you have any idea how difficult it is to supress a t/d stamp like the one
that goes with e-mail rl e-mail? There are a lot of people who know a lot
about computers and a lot about the internet, and I have never seen a
suppressed t/d.

Mike Broadwater
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
"You only need two things in this world. WD40 to make things go, and
duct tape to make them stop."
Message no. 18
From: ragtag@****.caltech.edu (Robert A. Granat)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:06:25 -0800 (PST)
According to Robert Rodriguez:
> Robert A. Granat wrote:
> > According to Evan Hughes:
> > >
> > > overexposure again? They're only supposed to be used by VERY good
> > > deckers.... Hemhem. =)
> >
> > And sparingly, even by them. As I recall from the canon shadowtalk
> > files, fastjack doesn't use altered time-date stamps. In fact, only
> > one person I've seen in canon uses them.
>
> at one time I believed as you did, But check out the source books.... in
> the latest ones more and more T/D stamps are altered. So what says that
> some of the deckers here aren't that good?

It's not that the aren't that good, it's that they probably wouldn't
be doing it (reason for the fastjack example). If altering time-date
stamps is *very* hard to do, then doing it means you're *very* good,
so you don't really need to advertise that way (doing so is just a
display of arrogance). On the other hand, if time-date stamp
alteration is common, then doing so is largely meaningless in terms of
advertising your skill. In fact, I think it makes the people who do
so seems like posers (after all, the *really* good deckers aren't so
insecure as to feel the need to do stuff like that). Either way, it's
actually not that good of an idea, imagewise, to alter your time-date
stamp.

> I figure if they find
> shadowland easy enough to continually post to it, there damm well good
> enough to change a T/D stamp...comments...

Actually this is poor reasoning. Shadowland is not solely the realm
of deckers, in fact it is to the "shadow community's" best interest to
make the BBS available to people in all areas of the business.

--RG
Message no. 19
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 19:53:41 EST
Robert Rodriguez writes:
> the latest ones more and more T/D stamps are altered. So what says that
> some of the deckers here aren't that good? I figure if they find
> shadowland easy enough to continually post to it, there damm well good
> enough to change a T/D stamp...comments...

Uh, no. Sland is supposed to be fairly easy to find (it would have to
be, after all how else would non-decker types get at it?), and you can't
even pretend to equate having enough contacts with programming ability
(*grin* I've been well enough humbled over the first term and a half in
university to appreciate just how much work would have to go into
changeing the TD stamp... *grin*).

Also: There shouldn't be that many "good deckers". Deckers die at about
the same rate (I'd say faster personally, since the learning curve would
be so high, and virtually all deckers run alone) as everyone else, so most
deckers shouldn't even MAKE it that far. Those that do should be the old
ones. Buzz. Tobai. Mercury. (And no, Tobai STILL hasn't figured out how to
put TD stamps in) On the few occasions that Righteous and Dana have done
it, they've been using SI's resources to do so. And we all know about old
runners: If they've made it that far, chances are they're quiet. They have
nobody left to impress. They're good, they know they're good, and so does
everyone else. Altering the stamp would just be a foolhardy waste of time
-- much too dangerous to be useful.



Evan Hughes | Webmaster
Honours Computer Science | Carleton Computer Science Society
http://chat.carleton.ca/~ehughes | http://omega.scs.carleton.ca/~ccss
Message no. 20
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:27:10 -0500
I will say this: Buzz and Freeline are the only two of my characters who
change their T/D stamps. Buzz does it, as a means of telling himself he
still has an edge. Freeline does it, well, because it makes him sound like a
druggy...:)
Tom
Message no. 21
From: Marizhavashti Kali <xenya@********.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:19:26 -0800 (PST)
On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Mike Broadwater wrote:

> that goes with e-mail rl e-mail? There are a lot of people who know a lot
> about computers and a lot about the internet, and I have never seen a
> suppressed t/d.

Actually, I have... It's not impossible.

Deirdre M. Brooks | xenya@********.com | Marizhavashti Kali
"Whose religion is this?" "It's not a religion, it's a cult."
"Whose cult
is this?" "It's Hubbard's cult, baby." "Who's Hubbard?"
"Hubbard's dead,
baby. Hubbard's dead." -Meme-
Message no. 22
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:58:04 EST
Marizhavashti Kali writes:
> > about computers and a lot about the internet, and I have never seen a
> > suppressed t/d.
>
> Actually, I have... It's not impossible.

I'd be interested in knowing how... *grin*


Evan Hughes | Webmaster
Honours Computer Science | Carleton Computer Science Society
http://chat.carleton.ca/~ehughes | http://omega.scs.carleton.ca/~ccss
Message no. 23
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:41:12 PDT
> Uh, no. Sland is supposed to be fairly easy to find (it would have to
>be, after all how else would non-decker types get at it?), and you can't
>even pretend to equate having enough contacts with programming ability
>(*grin* I've been well enough humbled over the first term and a half in
>university to appreciate just how much work would have to go into
>changeing the TD stamp... *grin*).

Actually, I think changing your RL email TD stamp would be rather (?!?
if approriate) easy, all you need is a unix box, linked to the internet.

Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.

Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.

step 3:recompile and reboot

Simple, neh?
Message no. 24
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:42:36 PDT
>On the few occasions that Righteous and Dana have done
>it, they've been using SI's resources to do so. And we all know about old
>runners: If they've made it that far, chances are they're quiet. They have
>nobody left to impress. They're good, they know they're good, and so does
>everyone else. Altering the stamp would just be a foolhardy waste of time
>-- much too dangerous to be useful.

I agree. With my chars, it's always line noise/fallout from a
program/drekcetera, never intentional.
Message no. 25
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:13:21 -0700 (PDT)
According to Benjamin:
>Actually, I think changing your RL email TD stamp would be rather (?!?
>if approriate) easy, all you need is a unix box, linked to the internet.
>
>Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.
>
>Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.
>
>step 3:recompile and reboot
>
>Simple, neh?

Nope. Because the target host will keep its own Received On information,
completely separate from your Sent On field. To change T/D stamps, you must
successfully break into the _target_ host (in this case SLand) and muck
around.
--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 26
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:51 PDT
>Nope. Because the target host will keep its own Received On information,
>completely separate from your Sent On field. To change T/D stamps, you must
>successfully break into the _target_ host (in this case SLand) and muck
>around.

Not in RL. I've goten 20 messages and the sorted them by
date-completely different order. If WE stuck the TD stamp on, wouldn't
they stay the same?
Message no. 27
From: mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
According to Benjamin:
>>Nope. Because the target host will keep its own Received On information,
>>completely separate from your Sent On field. To change T/D stamps, you must
>>successfully break into the _target_ host (in this case SLand) and muck
>>around.
>
>Not in RL. I've goten 20 messages and the sorted them by
>date-completely different order. If WE stuck the TD stamp on, wouldn't
>they stay the same?

For those not interested in my insisting on a fact, you can skip the rest of
the message.

I don't know what your mailer is doing, but I know for a fact that Unix
hosts _do_ stamp their messages. With results like the following:

>From owner-plotd@********.itribe.net Mon Apr 22 20:56:35 1996
>Return-Path: <owner-plotd@********.itribe.net>
>Received: from athos.itribe.net by envy.ugcs.caltech.edu with SMTP
> (8.7.5/UGCS:4.43) id UAA17208; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
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>To: plotd@********.itribe.net
>Subject: Re: TD stamps.
>In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:13:21 PDT."
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>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:51 PDT
>From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
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--
/!\/!ark /!\!eidengard, CS Major, VLSI. http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~mneideng
"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
-Pirotess, _Record_of_Lodoss_War_ Shadowrunner and Anime Addict
Message no. 28
From: Robert Rodriguez <robertr%tfn-ny.com@*********.tfn-ny.com>
Subject: RE: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 10:39:05 -0400
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From: Benjamin[SMTP:benjamin@*****.com]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 1996 10:41 PM
To: plotd@********.itribe.net
Subject: Re: TD stamps.

>Actually, I think changing your RL email TD stamp would be rather (?!?
>if approriate) easy, all you need is a unix box, linked to the =
internet.

>Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.

>Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.

>step 3:recompile and reboot

>Simple, neh?

and that's the whole of it. I would change mine everyday, just the fact =
that I wouldn't get anymail from anywhere else until I changed it back. =
That's the only hassel....
Say benjamin, you a Net-TEch? please don't be a CNE


Mook-a-ding-a-DING-ding-ding

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Message no. 29
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.net>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 12:35:48 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.
>
> Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.
>
> step 3:recompile and reboot
>
> Simple, neh?

Step 4: Watch the mailder-daemon on the receiving end stomp
on your Date: header and insert it's own based on the
arrival time.

-Mark
Message no. 30
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 13:08:54 EDT
Mark A. Imbriaco writes:
> > Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.
> > Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.
> > step 3:recompile and reboot
> Step 4: Watch the mailder-daemon on the receiving end stomp
> on your Date: header and insert it's own based on the
> arrival time.

A friend of mine (who appears to be a lurker on this list) did this. You
can change the originating TDstamp, but the receiving system puts it's own
stamp on it as well. The recieving system doesn't so much stomp the old
TD, as ignore it... =)

Although if you were able to delay the message's delivery for a day or
two, then it would be sorta handy... (This is going on my limited
knowledge of Unix, tho... )


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Message no. 31
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: TD stamps.
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 17:05:20 PDT
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> ----------
> From: Benjamin[SMTP:benjamin@*****.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 1996 10:41 PM
> To: plotd@********.itribe.net
> Subject: Re: TD stamps.
>
> >Actually, I think changing your RL email TD stamp would be rather (?!?
> >if approriate) easy, all you need is a unix box, linked to the =
> internet.
>
> >Step 1:get the source for your mailer deamon.
>
> >Step 2:change it so it puts something else where the TD should be.
>
> >step 3:recompile and reboot
>
> >Simple, neh?
>
> and that's the whole of it. I would change mine everyday, just the fact =
> that I wouldn't get anymail from anywhere else until I changed it back. =
> That's the only hassel....

No, not if you did it right. Then the "date:" field contains something weird.
That's the only change.

> Say benjamin, you a Net-TEch? please don't be a CNE
>

"What the hell are you talking about, Max?" I have no idea what you mean.
*stare at attachment* and what thed hell is that?

>
> Mook-a-ding-a-DING-ding-ding
>

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