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Message no. 1
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:17:08 +1200
>*****PRIVATE: Ronin
>>>>>>[Blah blah blah. Find out if the daughter is
vulnerable.]<<<<<
> -- RJohnson <19:00:31/05-02-58>

Is she?

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 2
From: Brion Wauters <stu502@****.COCO.CC.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:36:06 -0700
Jaimie Nicholson wrote:
>
> >*****PRIVATE: Ronin
> >>>>>>[Blah blah blah. Find out if the daughter is
vulnerable.]<<<<<
> > -- RJohnson <19:00:31/05-02-58>
>
> Is she?

Yes & No. She's currently attending college at Seatlle U. but with
Summer vacation coming up, she's liabel to leave town. Even _if_ you do
find her, she's far from helpless. Irish has given her Martial-Arts and
fire-arms training, plus she's a Physical Mage (Nightfox's idea,
actualy) with the _Known_ powers of Killing Hands - Deadly, and Astral
Perception. It is believed (but unconfirmed) that she also has
increased Strength, Quickness and Reflexes.

Is that vulnerable?

Brion
Message no. 3
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:40:47 -0700
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Brion Wauters wrote:

> Yes & No. She's currently attending college at Seatlle U. but with
> Summer vacation coming up, she's liabel to leave town. Even _if_ you do
> find her, she's far from helpless. Irish has given her Martial-Arts and
> fire-arms training, plus she's a Physical Mage (Nightfox's idea,
> actualy) with the _Known_ powers of Killing Hands - Deadly, and Astral
> Perception. It is believed (but unconfirmed) that she also has
> increased Strength, Quickness and Reflexes.

> Is that vulnerable?

No. But are you sure you don't mean Physical Adept? If she is a
physical mage, then she is at least a first level initiate, and if the
rumors are true, then she is at least third. And this is his little girl
who is a college student?

--Jeff
Message no. 4
From: Brion Wauters <stu502@****.COCO.CC.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:45:45 -0700
Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>
> No. But are you sure you don't mean Physical Adept? If she is a
> physical mage, then she is at least a first level initiate, and if the
> rumors are true, then she is at least third. And this is his little girl
> who is a college student?
>
> --Jeff

Actualy, the Killing Hands might only be at Serious. The one time she
used it the guy got geeked, but that might have been partialy due to her
Martial-Arts training.

As I said, Dan "Nightfox" Waisley created most of Irish's daughter &
_he_ made her a Physical Mage (what's the idfference between that and a
PhysAd anyway?). He did mention that she was built using the First
Edition rules, so that might explain her power level. As for the
rumored powers, that's just what they are -- rumor. She has no formal
Adept training of any sort, so nobody (including her) knows just what
her powers actually are.

Hope that clears things up a-bit.

Brion
Message no. 5
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:22:59 +1200
>Yes & No. She's currently attending college at Seatlle U. but with
>Summer vacation coming up, she's liabel to leave town. Even _if_ you do
>find her, she's far from helpless. Irish has given her Martial-Arts and
>fire-arms training, plus she's a Physical Mage (Nightfox's idea,
>actualy) with the _Known_ powers of Killing Hands - Deadly, and Astral
>Perception. It is believed (but unconfirmed) that she also has
>increased Strength, Quickness and Reflexes.
>
>Is that vulnerable?

To a Barret round, probably, but SIR wants to threaten her, not to kill
her. Is she registered as a mage?

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 6
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 21:57:57 -0700
On Mon, 5 May 1997, Brion Wauters wrote:

> Jeffrey Mach wrote:
> >
> > No. But are you sure you don't mean Physical Adept? If she is a
> > physical mage, then she is at least a first level initiate, and if the
> > rumors are true, then she is at least third. And this is his little girl
> > who is a college student?

> Actualy, the Killing Hands might only be at Serious. The one time she
> used it the guy got geeked, but that might have been partialy due to her
> Martial-Arts training.
>
> As I said, Dan "Nightfox" Waisley created most of Irish's daughter &
> _he_ made her a Physical Mage (what's the idfference between that and a
> PhysAd anyway?). He did mention that she was built using the First
> Edition rules, so that might explain her power level. As for the
> rumored powers, that's just what they are -- rumor. She has no formal
> Adept training of any sort, so nobody (including her) knows just what
> her powers actually are.

Well, the big differences are that a Physical Adept cannot cast sorcery
spells, nor can they conjure spirits, and they put Magic as priority B
during character creation. A Physical Mage has Magic as priority A and
can (possibly) cast spells and summon spirits. While a Physical Adept
"purchases" Physical Adept abilities with their Magic Rating to no ill
effect, a Physical Mage spends away their Magic Rating points used for
sorcery and conjuring (to a minimum of 1, and who the heck would want a
Magic Rating of 1???) with the same penalties as anyone who loses Magic
Rating points (geasa, lower max spell level before encountering physical
drain, etc.) and have the wonderful bonuses of being cut off from the
astral like physical adepts (exception being if they have astral
perception and only then can they develop conjuring, assensing, etc.) and
the fact that all Magic Rating losses have to reduce the Magic Rating
allocated to magic first and if that hits zero, then they permanently lose
all non Physical Adept abilities. All of this is detailed rather
thoroughly in the _Awakenings_ sourcebook.

I am currently running one, and I can honestly say that while they have
vast potential, they are initially underpowered compared to either full
mages or Physical Adepts, and their development can be glacially slow. The
only excuse that I have why he can (barely) hold his own on the runs that
happen around here, is that he was enshitted, er recognized to have
potential by a corporate mage, early in his life and was forced into
rigorous training for many years, to the detriment of a "normal" education
or socialization. Much of this development took place before he was
introduced to the list, but certain matters are slowly comming to light.

As for the math, well, I take it you can get your hands on an SRII?
Killing Hands-Deadly costs 4 points (Serious only 2), and Astral
Perception 2. The Enhansed Attributes varies depending on how good the
attributes was in the first place. Anyway, given that a physical mage can
only start with at absolute maximum 5 points of PhysAd powers, she would
have had to pass a zeroth and first initiation just to get KH-Deadly, and
Astral Percep. So, from what I've heard, a Physical Adept makes much more
sense for what you have in mind.

--Jeff
Message no. 7
From: Brion Wauters <stu502@****.COCO.CC.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:21:24 -0700
Jaimie Nicholson wrote:
>
> To a Barret round, probably, but SIR wants to threaten her, not to kill
> her. Is she registered as a mage?

Nope. I wasn't aware that Mages had to be registered. What's next?
Sentinels?

Brion
Message no. 8
From: Brion Wauters <stu502@****.COCO.CC.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:32:34 -0700
Jeffrey Mach wrote:
>
> As for the math, well, I take it you can get your hands on an SRII?
> Killing Hands-Deadly costs 4 points (Serious only 2), and Astral
> Perception 2. The Enhansed Attributes varies depending on how good the
> attributes was in the first place. Anyway, given that a physical mage can
> only start with at absolute maximum 5 points of PhysAd powers, she would
> have had to pass a zeroth and first initiation just to get KH-Deadly, and
> Astral Percep. So, from what I've heard, a Physical Adept makes much more
> sense for what you have in mind.

Whew! More information than I ever wanted to know, but thanks anyways.
Personaly,
I'd have gone with PhysAd too, but like I said, Anothe bloke developed
that part of her character.

Brion
Message no. 9
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:44:56 +1200
>>Is she registered as a mage?
>
>Nope. I wasn't aware that Mages had to be registered. What's next?
>Sentinels?

If she has a SIN (and as she goes to college, I would assume she does) then
the fact would be mentioned there, wouldn't it? Also, LoneStar runs a
licensing system (as mentioned in the LoneStar sourcebook)... it costs a
ludicrous sum to get licensed (25 KnY as I recall), but they don't let you
do any big magical operations unless you've paid it.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 10
From: Mike Goldberg <michael.goldberg@*******.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Threats
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:45:22 MST
So? SINs can be faked, and going to school isn't exactly a big magical
operation. (For the school, yes, but for the kid?)

Mike


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Threats
Author: ShadowTk Plot and Administrative Discussion
<PLOTD@********.ITRIBE.NET> at SMTP-PO
Date: 5/7/97 5:45 PM


>>Is she registered as a mage?
>
>Nope. I wasn't aware that Mages had to be registered. What's next?
>Sentinels?

If she has a SIN (and as she goes to college, I would assume she does) then
the fact would be mentioned there, wouldn't it? Also, LoneStar runs a
licensing system (as mentioned in the LoneStar sourcebook)... it costs a
ludicrous sum to get licensed (25 KnY as I recall), but they don't let you
do any big magical operations unless you've paid it.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 11
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:54:25 -0700
On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jaimie Nicholson wrote:

> >>Is she registered as a mage?
> >
> >Nope. I wasn't aware that Mages had to be registered. What's next?
> >Sentinels?

Sentinels a la Marvel Comics? Not yet. Hopefully, not ever, but that's
why magical response teams exist. You already have to register the fact
that you have a car and the fact that you have a gun. Why not register
the fact that you are a mage? It follows. Mostly because it is
potentially much more dangerous for a cop to be unprepared that a person
is a mage than that a person has a gun.

> If she has a SIN (and as she goes to college, I would assume she does) then
> the fact would be mentioned there, wouldn't it? Also, LoneStar runs a
> licensing system (as mentioned in the LoneStar sourcebook)... it costs a
> ludicrous sum to get licensed (25 KnY as I recall), but they don't let you
> do any big magical operations unless you've paid it.

The only other--and potentially dangerous--option is that the ID (SIN or
mage registration) is a fake. Okay maybe for getting through college, if
it's good. Bad if the Mage FRT boys ask for your ID when they plow your
door down because your tinkering worried the neighbors.

--Jeff
Message no. 12
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re[2]: Threats
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:03:20 +1200
> So? SINs can be faked, and going to school isn't exactly a big magical
> operation. (For the school, yes, but for the kid?)

Is that a "no, she's not registered as a mage"?

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 13
From: Mike Goldberg <michael.goldberg@*******.COM>
Subject: Re[3]: Threats
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:00:00 MST
It isn't my character. Just my thought on the whole subject.

*grin*

M.


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re[2]: Threats
Author: ShadowTk Plot and Administrative Discussion
<PLOTD@********.ITRIBE.NET> at SMTP-PO
Date: 5/8/97 4:03 PM


> So? SINs can be faked, and going to school isn't exactly a big magical
> operation. (For the school, yes, but for the kid?)

Is that a "no, she's not registered as a mage"?

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 14
From: Brion Wauters <stu502@****.COCO.CC.AZ.US>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:53:59 -0700
OKay folks, she _does_ have a SIN, and it may say she is magicly active
(do PhysAd abilities show up to testing the same as Mage powers?). And
if it is absolutely nesciary to be registared to be legal, than she is.
But since _she_ doesn't know what her powers are exactly, then the
registration form will be far from acuret too. But what's with the
stink
anyway? she's a college student, not a corp cleaner.

Harkening back to the original (and by-now forgotten) question, she
wears a
Secure-tech jacket and shock-glove when she's going to be out late or in
potentialy
dangerous territory. So even if you go after her when shes
out-and-about, Jaimie,
She won't exactly be an easy push-over.

Brion
Message no. 15
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:40:46 +1200
The son of the suit Faerie killed will turn up dead too, in case anyone
cares. I don't know if the list would find this out. BTW, who was it who
referred to the victim as "Parker"? How did they know? I lost the message,
but I seem to recall it was you, Paul.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 16
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:44:25 +1200
>I
>just can't believe that suits still fall for that kind of trick

It helps if the trickster gets the suit drunk and/or muddles his mind with
magic. I agree in your doubt it would have worked otherwise.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 17
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:51:21 +0000
In message <v01540b08b1363509d78d@[139.80.126.13]>, Jaimie Nicholson
<jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ> writes
>The son of the suit Faerie killed will turn up dead too, in case anyone
>cares.

Not from my end.

>I don't know if the list would find this out. BTW, who was it who
>referred to the victim as "Parker"? How did they know? I lost the message,
>but I seem to recall it was you, Paul.

I think it was me too. Mistake on my part, I remembered "in the footage
the victim was ID'd as 'Parker'" but I had the public post confused with
the private one where the ID was made.
>
>PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
>JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 18
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:24:18 +1300
>*****PRIVATE: Shifters
>*****NOT TO: Faerie
>>>>>>[Is Faerie in trouble, or is she just ignoring me because I mis
spell
>>>>>>her name? If she's in trouble, I'd like to
help.]<<<<<
> -- Kristling <20:09:29/03-22-59 PST>

Physical trouble, no. Psychological trouble, yes.

PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Message no. 19
From: "Kristling the Weird (aka Daniel Sauve"
Subject: Re: Threats
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:36:45 -0500
Jaimie Nicholson wrote:
>
> >*****PRIVATE: Shifters
> >*****NOT TO: Faerie
> >>>>>>[Is Faerie in trouble, or is she just ignoring me because I
mis spell
> >>>>>>her name? If she's in trouble, I'd like to
help.]<<<<<
> > -- Kristling <20:09:29/03-22-59 PST>
>
> Physical trouble, no. Psychological trouble, yes.
>
> PLAYTHING OF A CRUEL GOD
> JAIMIE NICHOLSON
Wel, the shifters may or may not have learned this- Kristling would have
mentioned it to Tyger or Micheal before anyone else- but he used to be a
professional therapist

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