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From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Admin Discussion in ShadowTK
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:39:06 -0500
Would it be possible for all discussion about formats, writing style, spelling
mistakes and other random drivel be moved to the plot-d or maybe create
another list so it doesnt hose down the real shadowtk discussions?

I dont know if you have noticed this but (at least it seems that way to me)
the amount of character to character discussion has DECREASED since you have
started bitching about formats and stuff.

I tried to be polite, and a little sly, by posting as my character that
there seemed to have been some screw up on the bbs and a lot of garbage was
flying left and right. I guess I failed and will now take a more direct
approach.

When people post in character it prompts others to post in character. When
people start posting things that AREN'T in character, it, in turn, prompts
others to press the big "r" key to respond. In doing so they send a
mail message ... WHERE ... to the shadowTK list. That mail message goes
out to people expecting to get a response to their "So, we gonna hit Aztech
tonight or what?" message and they get something more akin to "You suck, you
can't spell, change your date, your format sucks, I'm cute, vote for me."

I enjoy reading a majority of the things that go on (in, on, with) this
(group, mailing list, thang) and would like to continue but the amount of
(whining, bitching, moaning, twapping, drivel, screaming) that is going on
is really putting a damper on my fun. I dont know if this is affecting
others as it is me but I needed to speak my peace.

MY OPINION:

Administrators -- You need to play and live by your own rules. I don't
mean just the formatting stuff, I mean the rules about what should be posted
where. Bob, a couple of weeks ago, while it was useful to me, it was an
intrusion into the TK file, posted the information about FASA's stance on
internet use of FASA material. I really believe that, while it was informative,
it could have been posted to plotd and reached nearly the same audience without
stomping on the discussions going on on the TK list.

I am not without blame. When I go to do "dramatics" I use *** instead
of the recommended (/enforced) +++. Wanna know why? Hayes protocol says
that +++ is used to get your modem's attention while dialed up. If I dont
pause in there somewhere while I am typing them I will interrupt my session
and have to type "ato" to get back to it. It is less of a hassel for me to
use another string of characters for dramatics. I didnt think that it was
THAT big of a deal (phelen, bob, doom, whoever else -- feel more than
free to mail me personally to tell me if it really is).

The FAQ says no .sig files. I nuked mine because I didn't want to
screw up and have it accidentally posted. There have been a couple of bendings
of this rule.

When someone posts something that you feel is incorrect, be it format,
content, or attitude, you can send the offender a mail message directly. My
mail reader lets me see who REALLY sent mail so if I want to "go around
the list" (as I have with a couple of people who needed bulk information about
something that might not have been of interest to anyone else) I can. I
site the message from smuggler (Tunnel Rat) this morning. The format for
that message is HOSED. Since I was the one who told him all about the
mailing list, I feel responsible for making sure he stays within the rules
(yes, I send him a FAQ first).

If you want a good time/dae format -- WRITE A SCRIPT to help people with
it.

Any comments, please mail them directly to me. I just needed to vent my
frustration at having to see / read the posting FAQ 3 times in the past week
or so (I'm certain I wasnt the only one to notice that).

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