From:	mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject:	Re: The Shadow Community still lives!!
Date:	Thu, 25 Jan 1996 01:10:43 -0800 (PST)

According to Gawain Emrys Ap Geoffrey:
>
> Okay, here we go... (apologies to anyone who this may
> offend)
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:23:15 -0500 Mark L. Neidengard wrote:
>
> RE: Runners Bars
> > There aren't _that_ many
> > runners out there to make such a concept feasible. If you
> > take New York, for example, and consider the ratio of
> > runners to populace, there just _aren't_
> > that many. Also, if there was something as well
> > established as a "runner bar"
> > someone might well snitch it to Lone Star (or someone
> > else) and all hell would
> > break loose.
>
> It is a well established fact that the current day
> equivalent to 'runners (who's existance you have
> acknowleged) do exist in such places. If the contemporary
> crime community is exactly that, then why should the system
> have changed by2050?

I have said that I believe the "equivalent to 'runners" exist today in some
form. I do _not_ say that there exist establishments equivalent to "runner
bars" to cater to them. I believe they use the same bars and restaurants as
everybody else.
>
> Which is exactly how 'runners bars can also stay
> around (see my earlier point). I know people on both sides
> of the law and they frequently know who each other are,
> proving it is different and sending the kind of firepower
> needed to take out a dozen or so 'runners at once isn't
> quiet. By the time they arrived the 'runners would be long
> gone and the bar relocated to a new place. In all, a waste
> of Lone Star's time and resources.

That's why we have things like the FBI (however effective they are). The way
a "runner" stays around is by not attracting the attention of the law
enforcement authorities. If they want your ass and you aren't in hiding,
chances are good that they'll have your ass. And again, the sort of coffee
shop meetings and whatnot depicted in Heat are _not_ "runner" bars. They're
just normal establishments that the team can be _contacted_ through or that
the team is "working from" (big difference).
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