| From: | mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard) |
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| Subject: | Re: wait a second |
| Date: | Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:08:16 -0800 (PST) |
>
> I'm reasonable on this, but Maxim IS putting a command team back in place
> to be sure that Amazonia doesn't destroy the rest of the facility. After
> all, it _is_ Maxim property.
>
> Oh, and this is a statement. It will happen, and it will happen
> tomorrow. Maxim won't try to kick out the Amazonians, but they will
> officially put representatives there.
What exactly are they planning to do? Are they planning to attempt to land
in the Maxim compound with aircraft?
> Amazonia would have had no reason to deport Maxim's employees since they
> didn't know about Maxim's nukes. They would have had a reason to shut
> down the operations, but not deport the employees, most of whom live in
> LaPaz itself. Ie, Amazonia just kicked out thier own, taxpaying
> citizens.
If you read the previous posts, when the Amazonian military scrambled to
the scene of the airstrike, they discovered radioactive stuff leaking into
the environment. This got their immediate attention, and a certain amount
of forensics revealed the plutonium. While they have no way to _prove_ that
they were part of nuclear warheads, they have at the very least a private
corporation storing nuclear material on their soil, "endangering" its
citizens etc. This is practically an act of war.
> But I see you went ahead and did it anyway.... So much for my timing.
> Actually, this became an issue when Mark and I were discussing this the
> first time: does anyone know where the hell the borders of Amazonia
> are? I looked through all my books and only found mention of the
> northern border with Aztlan being in the middle of Columbia. I figure
> all of Brazil, maybe much of Argintina, Uraguay, Paraguay, and the north
> coast of South America. But I don't think Peru, Ecuador, Chile, and most
> of the Andes. I would think some of those would be the renewal of the
> Incas, personally, and that the coastal and mountains just don't seem to fit.
This is true. All of this is proceeding too fast without knowing exactly where
the borders are, which I will claim equal responsibility for.
> Yeah, by a terrorist organization. :) Maxim did nothing wrong,
> officially, except not inform Amazonia that they had plutonium on the
> site, which, depending on how lax or tough thier corp extraterritoriality
> laws are, could be a problem. The environmental problems didn't occur
> until the nuke was destroyed, therefore it's not officially Maxim's fault.
Conversely, the politicians can easily start claiming that such nuclear
material is obviously useful only for nuclear weapons. =( From a strictly
rational point of view, Maxim's crime may be relatively small, but the
Amazonian government, just like governments in general (and like certain
corporate CEO's I know) are not necessarily rational.
> Now, if you still want to say that Amazonia has put troops outside the
> bases, that's fine with me. Here's the list of the ones I figure would
> be affected: LaPaz(duh), Porto Alegre, Buenos Aires, Brasilia, Caracas,
> Rio, San Luis. There are others, but I figure that they are outside
> Amazonia. And Amazonia, even if Quito is in Amazonia, would not put
> troops outside that. It's the Continental HQ and Maxim would not take
> well to having troops stationed around it.
>
> Oh, by they way. Amazonia is not going to move against Maxim, because I
> will not allow Maxim's presence in South America to be destroyed. For
> similar reasons, I have rejected all the eviction ideas you've proposed
> as too extreme. Sorry, Mark.
The one I most advocated was the removing of the R&D stuff. I will freely
admit that most were too extreme, and I only posited them to suggest some
of the more extreme positions the politicians might bluster about in the
political firestorm ongoing.
> I'm not going to let Maxim be kicked out. Period. Which means no
> government seizure of all assets either.
Nor, in general, would Amazonia actually try this short of an open act of
war provable to Maxim.
> I can handle Maxim being restricted to certain buisnesses in Amazonia
> because they're already restricted. I can also handle kicking out all
> R&D, since that would actually hurt Maxim by denying them access to
> biological diversity in the Amazon Basin. And I can handle Maxim being
> forced to sell the LaPaz facility to Amazonia. But that's about it.
Ok, shall we agree to that then, and hopefully close the chapter on this whole
mess? Perhaps you can furnish a wording for the "treaty" here on plotd and
we can ratify and "implement" it. I want to avoid stepping on toes as much
as possible, but I also want to avoid holes in world characterization. I
think we can do it.
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"Fairy of sleep, controller of illusions" Operator/Jack-of-all-Trades, CACR
"Control the person for my own purpose." "Don't mess with the Dark
Elves!"
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