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From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: wait a second
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:59:47 -0700 (MST)
On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Mark L. Neidengard wrote:

> What exactly are they planning to do? Are they planning to attempt to land
> in the Maxim compound with aircraft?

No, that site can only handle choppers, and Maxim has to fly the people
into the public airport or come across the lake via boat. Either way,
Maxim's peopl will be arriving via ground transportation and
the Amazonian officials will have been informed prior to thier arrival.
I'm sure that both sides will do everything they can to annoy the other
without any serious breaches occuring, and the team will make it clear
that they're not going to interfere with the Amazonians too much, just
make sure that Maxim has some representatives there to make sure that
nothing disappears. Maxim has some important stuff on that site that
would be lots in lost revenue if it just vanished. The team will be
about 15 people.

> If you read the previous posts, when the Amazonian military scrambled to
> the scene of the airstrike, they discovered radioactive stuff leaking into
> the environment. This got their immediate attention, and a certain amount
> of forensics revealed the plutonium. While they have no way to _prove_ that
> they were part of nuclear warheads, they have at the very least a private
> corporation storing nuclear material on their soil, "endangering" its
> citizens etc. This is practically an act of war.

I guess my point rests on an unknown variable in regards to how Amazonia
views megacorps and how strong thier extraterritoriality laws are, and
this is a variable that is totally unknown and, for the time being,
unknowable.

I can see why you feel it's an act of war, though. I don't agree with
the deportation, but it's done so I'll deal with it. I probably would
have put the people into forced housing units somewhere, at least the
ones with LaPaz residencies, but YMMV.

And it definately got Maxim's attention, which could be a very real
reason to do it. Politically, it makes Amazonia's position very clear,
so Maxim knows exactly, and bluntly, where they stand.

I'm not sure if I'm convincing myself or rationalizing or what, but there
are definately reasonable reasons for why Amazonia would have done what
they did and now I'm cooled down, I'm beginning to think again. One of
these days I'll actually remember to stop, cool down, and then respond....

> This is true. All of this is proceeding too fast without knowing exactly where
> the borders are, which I will claim equal responsibility for.

For this plot, the borders aren't overly important since Mark and I
decided that, even if they didn't include LaPaz according to FASA, since
neither of us could figure out exactly, LaPaz was in Amazonia for this
plot. But I'd still be interested in hearing from someone if you know
what they official borders are supposed to be.

> Conversely, the politicians can easily start claiming that such nuclear
> material is obviously useful only for nuclear weapons. =( From a strictly
> rational point of view, Maxim's crime may be relatively small, but the
> Amazonian government, just like governments in general (and like certain
> corporate CEO's I know) are not necessarily rational.

Touche'.

> The one I most advocated was the removing of the R&D stuff. I will freely
> admit that most were too extreme, and I only posited them to suggest some
> of the more extreme positions the politicians might bluster about in the
> political firestorm ongoing.

Actually, I'm sure that they would go through all those plus a slew of
more and less extreme versions. I read that you were positing them as
possible ideas for what would happen to Maxim, and so I probably
overreacted.

> Nor, in general, would Amazonia actually try this short of an open act of
> war provable to Maxim.

Ie proof that there was a real weapon there, which will not be forthcoming.

> Ok, shall we agree to that then, and hopefully close the chapter on this whole
> mess? Perhaps you can furnish a wording for the "treaty" here on plotd and
> we can ratify and "implement" it. I want to avoid stepping on toes as much
> as possible, but I also want to avoid holes in world characterization. I
> think we can do it.

I'll see what I can do, but not tonight. I'll get to it in the morning.

Brian

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