From:	mneideng@****.caltech.edu (Mark L. Neidengard)
Subject:	Re: TD stamps.
Date:	Mon, 22 Apr 1996 23:46:45 -0700 (PDT)

According to Benjamin:
>>Nope. Because the target host will keep its own Received On information,
>>completely separate from your Sent On field. To change T/D stamps, you must
>>successfully break into the _target_ host (in this case SLand) and muck
>>around.
>
>Not in RL. I've goten 20 messages and the sorted them by
>date-completely different order. If WE stuck the TD stamp on, wouldn't
>they stay the same?

For those not interested in my insisting on a fact, you can skip the rest of
the message.

I don't know what your mailer is doing, but I know for a fact that Unix
hosts _do_ stamp their messages. With results like the following:

>From owner-plotd@********.itribe.net Mon Apr 22 20:56:35 1996
>Return-Path: <owner-plotd@********.itribe.net>
>Received: from athos.itribe.net by envy.ugcs.caltech.edu with SMTP
> (8.7.5/UGCS:4.43) id UAA17208; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
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1996 23:47:38 -0400
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dzur.parc.xerox.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA21728 for
<plotd@********.itribe.net>; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:54 -0700
>Message-Id: <199604230352.UAA21728@****.parc.xerox.com>
>To: plotd@********.itribe.net
>Subject: Re: TD stamps.
>In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:13:21 PDT."
> <199604230313.UAA17010@*****.ugcs.caltech.edu>
>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:52:51 PDT
>From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
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