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From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: The FAQ and a few questions
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 05:40:57 +0000
On 17 Oct 96 at 12:26, Brian Rogers wrote:
> No need, I will name myself.. Thanks for the intro.
>
> I was being nice. It was obvious, since you had continued to
> post incorrectly, that you didnt get the copy of the FAQ so I sent you a copy
> of the one that I had just gotten. You returned it, in full, to me without
> cutting it down so my mailer wouldnt choke on it. I figured at that point
> you were just being a dick about the situation. I reacted as per my normal.
Yup, you were being nice. Sending me the FAQ 10 mins after it was posted on
both PlotD and ShadowTK, you really had to know I did never receive it. How
are you trying to fool - me, the other ones on the list, or just yourself?
And receiving another copy of the - new released - FAQ whole 10 mins after I
got it over both lists, I really had to knopw you were trying to help me -
with the line "You might want to read this"

> I am one of the people that feels pretty damned strongly about the
> INTERNAL encryption. I wanted something like this before so it didnt look
> like IS&M was using shadowland to discuss personal business (like setting up
> staff dinners and talking about new products) but they were things that
> I wanted the list to see so I / we didnt look like loonies when we referenced
> something that happened 2 weeks prio in email between me and Mark.
See Dark Avanger's comments about using the INTERNAL header. Or my mail to you
were I was trying to explain the problem to you.

> As to your making it clear that you read it, you didnt, and you still havent
> to me.
You might be blind, of course, and in this case, I apologize, but if you're
not, get real (there were 8 ^h's before real), and READ IT YOURSELF. It is not
clear, a matter of fact having being agreed upon - and the meaning being explained to me -
by
both Mark I. and the new Executor.

> Everyone knows that I am pretty Draconian when it comes to most things. The
I don't. how should I? I learned by reading the archgives, just a few days
before my post someone sent in a short story, not even with a header. So who
are you to tell me how to post?

> only thing I have as a saving grace is that I am "across the board" about
it.
> If I screw up, I reprimand myself. If you screw up and you are a friend, you
> get the same reprimand. Simple. No exceptions, no "oh, he's an old timer so
> go light on him" bullshit.
You don't get that from me, be asured. Your errors should be obvious, so what
else can I say? You are speaking for me :-)

> There is no excuse for not being able to follow the posting rules. And there
> is no excuse for not bending and / or breaking those rules without discussing
> it first. Its not like we set this thing up over night, ya know. Its
> been a'runnin' for a couple of months at least.
Would the rules be clear, and the style on the list following it, I _might_
agree. But not with the whole logical and formal errors going down the list.
Done by me, you, "us newbies", and "you oldtimers", although I don't
like the
taste of the last two statements.

> Yeah, Im happy for the new blood, and Im willing (and able) to assist the
> new guys into the fold, but when I have to keep being less and elss subtle about
> their mistakes, it annoys me. I spent nearly 45 minutes doing nothing more
> than repetative key stroking to delete all of those those (poorly formatted
> and all) notes you and the other person from the UK (name unknown, I dont
> honestly care, so dont bother telling me) sent back and forth. Im sure it
> might have been good reading but it wasnt for me and the sheer fucking
> volume of it was completely and totally uncalled for.
If you try to help me by sending me several K of mail I _MUST_ have received
before, STOP IT. I don't need your help. Not yours. I need help of people who
are able to discuss matters with reason, not with kbyte tons of stuff I
already received and read (Yup - I read it about 5 mins after it appeared on
the lists. Did YOU read it before sending it to me?

And: How do you know posts are formated bad w/o reading 'em? Precognitition?
*grin* Sure.

_I_ did call for response by the - to you - unknown person from the UK. If I
write something, I want to see a well done. IC, if possible, on private mail,
if not. And I _am_ a member of the list, although you might not like it. Heck,
_I_ don't care if you do or not.

> If you had fun with it, great. That was wonderful, and I am honestly happy.
We had, and much more importantly, we will have, although people like you are
starting to get a pain... somewhere where I don't like pains. Sorry, this
might sound somewhat harsh, but I am fed up with being send something I saved
_before_ that ... listmember sent it _again_ to me, and read it.

Sascha
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