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From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: RAWRGH!
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:23:56 +0000
On 12 Dec 96 at 10:57, neon@*******.EDU wrote:
[snip]
> I'm talking about breaking established views by having no explination
> for how a spirit could have something like a third person narration.
> Funny, no one elses seems to be having to many problems. Of course,
> it might be because they decided to discuss things on plotd first...
A third person's POV was used about 3 weks before I did use it, and not
attacked on PlotD. And as I said: I took the hint, haven't done 3rd person
again, but will when I found a way to do so. Improving the formats to find new
ways to express myself - and staying within the formats. That ok by you?

> > Till then, stop your sarcasm,
> No. In fact, the more I here people in IF1 talk about how hard it is
> to do things, and how hard life for them is, the more it will
> probably continue.
Not "it" - you. But I still have to see people of us "talk about how hard
it
is", but I am sure you'll point out.

> > or define _to_me_ how to include videos. Texts.
> > Descriptions. Anyone on here has his/her own way to do, most often not even
> > continious within a single character's posts...
>
> Funny, I thought you guys knew something about SR. You sure seemed
> to. Did you miss the bit on "+++++include video" etc.?
Funny. You sure?

+++++ include video
or was it ...
+++++ begin download: name
or was it name.ending
or was it
+++++ BEGIN DOWNLOAD
or rather
+++++ Begin: Download
or... ?

The FAQ advises us to use the "+++++ include", but how do you point out what's
in the included file? And mind, the "+++++ Begin Download" was first used by
IF - improving formats.

Did you miss these problems? Funny.

> > We didn't whine. We did work, and compile Pete's Newcomer's Guide. What have
> > you done but whining?
> You mean, other than help you guys? Perhaps I shouldn't have. No
> one helped me, and I didn't screw up my postings nearly as many times
> as you guys have. Either then, or now. And now, when someone comes
> on, or the Newcomers Guide is posted, all I hear you say is "this is
> so newbies won't be treated as harshly as we were." Sure you didn't
> bother to read the FAQ, and there's no guarantee that anyone joining
> the list will read your newcomers guide, so why is it so much better?
Yup, sorry. I just checked my logs and have seen I accused you wrongly. Yes,
you were among the people with constructive critc and a helpful hand. Sorry to
have you attacked on this one, really.

But you misread what I posted twice (*blush* - to TK (wrongly) and here) about
the newcomers guide. It is to _help_ people following the formats, not to
release people from reading the FAQ.

And don't you fragg... *cough* sorry. We had the discussion about reading the
FAQ before, and I think I did prove more then once I read it, forward and
backward, and still had probs with it, and tried to follow it, even with the
"spirit-3rd-person-mail" (see discussion back then, and my arguments why I did
post it as I did)

So, please, do _not_ accuse me of not reading the FAQ. I did.

> > What are _you_ whining about?
>
> I'm complaining that you IF1'ers seem to believe you're the first
> people to ever join this list and get a cold shoulder because you
> didn't read the FAQ (and if you came from shadowrn, then you knew
> there was one, and if all these people were your friends, why didn't
> you tell them?).
a) see above about reading the FAQ
b) We did tell them. On our private EMail conferences. Mostly much faster then
anyone on PlotD. And we discussed formats, plotlines there, too. If you
weren't so biased we all never read the FAQ and where just here to whine, you
might have noticed how fast the people within the IF plot did learn.

> Seems to me you should admit that you screwed up
> when you joined by not following posting guidelines (which are
> clearly discussed in the FAQ)
*sigh* That discussion we had already. There are some points not covered in
the FAQ, some have been changed after that discussion in the FAQ. Yes, already
we have left our traces.

> to such a degree that it was decided to
> give the office of Dread Executor to one person since Mark was to
> busy to take care of his other dutys _and_ the job of just making
> sure people followed posting guidelines.
Strange - the first removals Jim did were -IIRC- people who flamed... hm,
makes you think I hope :-)

Sascha
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