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From: Wes Nicholson <wes@********.COM.AU>
Subject: Elves, humans, trolls and dwarves
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:37:43 +1100
>I don't think they'll touch other major cities, the Denver Box Set
>(AFAIK) wasn't accepted witht he enthusiasm they'd hoped, so it's highly
>unlikely we'll see another city sourcebook.

Probably because the Denver set is S C A R Y. Also, Mike has said
that they want to get away from the specific site books, so there's not much
chance of any more, after the couple in production get done. (See what you
can learn from a FASA seminar at Gen Con :-) )

>Africa and Australia I believe are sourcebooks in production, though
>that has yet to be confirmed by FASA.

They did one on Hungary as well, in Hungarian. I don't know if it
exists in English print.

>Yeah, I'd have to agree here, originally the game was quite nice, but as
>usual, thanks to Tolkien, the elves always get involved in world saving
>events. It'll be nice to one day find a game or series of books that
>don't glorify the little monsters. I was left in abject amazement when
>they started with the Horrors stuff, and still hate the fact that they
>allowed it to happen. After reading the Horrors details in ED, it
>became very obvious that if they arrive in 205*, the world is ifnished,
>end of story. Obviously that little concept escaped someone in the line
>office. It would have been better, in my opinion, if they had involved
>the other races more in some of the stuff they've doen, rather than
>leave it to immortal superelves.

That's why they put out Harlequin's Back, a very nasty little (OK not
so little) run to save the world, or at least delay its fate for a century
or two. Of course, that bloody immortal elf had to be a part of it, didn't
he :-)

>DAmn right <grin> My comment wasn't actually aimed at the list, just in
>general, it seems that whenever you talk to players from other games,
>their favourite character is some overblown super elf, with all the
>buttons and whistles, blaupunkt and goldfish bowl included. For some
>reason, a straight human character has escaped a tremendous amount of
>players.

Kinda sad, that. I play four characters (no, not all at once) in
campaign, and two of them are straight humans. They're heaps of fun,
especially since neither of them knows which end of a gun is the dangerous end.

>Trolls are second worse in this, the ultimate comabt
>bulletproof sec guard basher. Why are all Trolls heavily cybered,
>muscle bound morons who's only purpose is to get a bigger fragging gun.

They're not. My troll is a heavily cybered, muscle bound smart guy
who's only purpose is to get more drones (oh, and get rid of people like
Thunda) :-)
Of course, he likes to ACT dumb when he first meets people - it puts them at
ease to see what they expect to see.

>people too. Orks as well. But dwarves. Little stunty things with
>beards and of no intrinsic use to anybody.... wrong, potentially great
>characters, and with a lot of potential.

Yeah, you're right, but nobody seems to like them much. We have over
70 characters in our campaign, and only in the last six months did someone
introduce a dwarf - and that was because some of us commented that in 70
characters, there ought to be at least one dwarf. She's a stunty little
thing, for sure, with a beard, and hollow legs. She's always hungry - eats
more than my troll does.


Just my 0.02 worth

Wes

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