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From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: What the...
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:37:54 +0000
In message <199803051711.MAA24095@****.qc.ca>, Frank Pelletier
<jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA> writes
><rant mode /on>
>
>Okay...
>
>I really respect everyone on this list. The writing is great, the plots
>are very interresting, the characters are superb.
>
>But... Where do we draw the line? I mean, I personally based my
>characters on tabletop characters, and the campaigns I've played in. And
>while after 3 1/2 years of playing the same characters every week, many of
>them were very powerful, but they were not "bending" the rules, never facing
>world-spanning menaces, or becoming world-changing powers themselves.
>They're basically high-powered runners...RUNNERS....


>Now... I'm reading about fighting "The Darkness"..and childs..and walking
>on the moon, and mages in space. Where does artistic license end?

Well, Quinn in space is canon. Mages die or go mad there :) That does
also colour what she says. She may believe it... that don't mean she
_actually_ saw what she _thinks_ she saw.

>Is
>there a common balance we can all agree on beforehand?

Not really... there's a range, though it does tend towards the higher
end. It's just that for the last couple of months I've been
concentrating on Chronos and the Farmer, at the expense of other stuff.

>Am I doomed to
>write about my characters gettin' whipped and killed over and over again
>because I obviously couldn't possibly face someone who "Fights the
>Darkness","Teared Denver apart" or "Beat the Nexus
deckers"?..

Haze's big problem was that he got caught in a very messy atrocity, and
made it the business of a lot of people to bring him in. Don't worry,
there's more than one way out :)

If you want lower-level stuff, there's a couple of good spots in
Puyallup: Easy needs all the help she can get, and there might be an
entertaining gang war around Harley's corner of town. It does happen,
believe me...

>And face it... most interresting plot lines come for those characters...
>the Wars, the Lynches, the Strangers, the Cthulhu frames, the Binders, the
>Morningstars. So if I want to integrate myself in those plotlines...well,
>you end up with something like Haze. Normally powerful, but ultimatly
>doomed.

The difficulty Haze seems to have is he keeps pitting himself in kill-
or-be-killed (well, at least get a damn good kicking :) ) situations.

>All I'm saying is this... You can create all the world-spanning
>conspiracies you want. Really. It makes for good writing. But those
>high-powered characters RUNNING THE SHADOWS? What? That's the only
>refuge I have. Running. I can't meddle in higher-level plotlines, 'cause
>we all know how that will end (heck, on the 6-8 months I've been here, I
>think I must be in the top ten for "Gettin' beat up" posts).

Again, seems more because Haze ends up pitting himself against other
list characters head-on. Hey, he did damn well on the bus hit...

>And if I
>stay in low-level plotlines... well, I get high-level characters coming
>down... I'd love to see my characters interact with some of the legends
>in here. But obviously, since there's absolutly no way I could come out
>on top, why do that?

Run a plot of your own :) Seriously: it gives you the right to say that
Character X isn't appropriate to intervene, unless they're willing to
get the snot kicked out of them by Haze...

If you do, let me know, it would give me an excuse to use Harley some
more...

>Actually...I don't want to come out on top... I don't want to rule the
>world. But once...just once in a while, I think it would be fun for
>characters like Harley, Haze, Twitch, Marathon, and others to shine. Not
>be outshone ad vitam eternam.

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