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From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: I'm pissed now
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 21:08:13 -0500
At 12:38 AM 3/27/98 +0000, you wrote:

>Kind of sucks when people drop non-canon crap on you unexpectedly,
>without any saving throw, doesn't it?

Saving Throw! I knew there was another way to say what I was trying to
say. I think Saving Throw about sums it up. There's *always* got to be
some way out, no matter how slim that chance is.

>Again. I am deeply unhappy about this sort of thing. It doesn't exist
>anywhere in SR canon, yet it's been introduced to ShadowTK as absolute
>and irrevocable fact.
>
>I'm of the opinion that this sorry episode should be retconned out. The
>TOSSIT program doesn't send anything to anyone.

Agreed. I have no problem with Prophet getting spooked and moving. He
seems to be the sort of character that would do that. But his reasons, and
what Micheal Morningstar would know, really should change. Events can
stay, reasons should change.

>Me, an old-timer? I've only been here since '96. And you only have to
>read the logs to see how _I_ joined the list. Not quite "open mouth,
>insert foot, close mouth" because I did at least get my debut accepted,
>but I was hardly discreet or gentle in my arrival.

You know, I remember that. For some reason, I thought you had been around
longer than that; actually I think that was in the second half of 95 that
particular conversation was raging. Wasn't the solution a massive
shadowrun on the Maxim facility in Bangladesh or something? I think I
wanted to be a part of that pretty bad, but I was busy with James Cueno
doing the Platina story.

Weren't you on RN before TK? I seem to recall reading posts on RN from you
about rail guns and exotic ammo and the like in 93 or 94. So damn detailed
I wanted to understand, but couldn't.

Then again, this old boy could be going senile. ;-)

>Haze. Very powerful PC. Played on TK as a burned-out loser by Frank, who
>accepted his character's fate (to do some splatterjobs, be hated and
>hunted as a result) and left me deeply intrigued as to what will happen
>to the character next. Superb writing and a fascinating character.

Agreed. I'm also curious about what will happen next with Haze.

Actually, I think that's the truest measure of your effectiveness on this
list. Do the others care about your characters? Are they curious as to
their next move? A big part of that is do your character's have their own,
believable personality? Haze does. Lynch does. Irish does. And a lot of
others around here, maybe even myself, I hope.

>Jesus wept. In 1996 _I_ was challenging the "old boy's club" by kicking
>back against Maxim Arms, saying the UCAS would not accept a threat of
>that dimension (an AA corp of dubious stability acquiring nuclear
>weapons and testing them in orbit).

I'm sorry. Jesus wept? I'm honestly not familiar with that phrase.
Elaborate please?

>The point is, the list demands a measure of stability. We play in FASA's
>world, or we jointly agree where we stretch those boundaries. Oddball
>virus software that no other character can identify or spot _will_ piss
>listmembers off.

Look what happened today.

>Partly because there's a fatigue with the "savant child who kicks the
>butts of deckers with decades of experience". The list has seen many
>such, and the concept becomes tiresome.

Yeah. Keith, just be glad no one has decided to hammer you for altering
your time/date stamp. That might reopen a whole can of worms this list has
thrashed about a number of times and required a changing of the FAQ. I
remember how tempers flared the last time I saw that.

>Also, Lynch is a team player.

Which is how Lynch is role-played. It just wouldn't make sense anymore for
Lynch to be a loner, or a solo puppet like the Dark Stranger. Lynch is the
old cuss that knows he's lucky to have lived as long as he has. He knows
that there are young bucks out there that could thrash him. So he relies
very heavily on the one advantage he has, his friends. It just wouldn't
make sense for him to be different anymore; like other characters on TK,
he's almost got a life of his own.

>Paul J Adam
>Nice Guy Dread Executor

So how is it that a Dread Executor is also a Nice Guy? Are you the sort
that has the black silk mask and as you prepare to lop off someone's head
with your massive wood axe, you say "Terribly sorry sir. I do hope this
won't ruin your day."

Sorry. Bit punchy after all the high-tension postings today.

Erik J.


"What was that popping sound?"

"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."

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