| From: | Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: World Time Zones |
| Date: | Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:18:05 -0700 |
> >> Damn. Which little town did you live in? Eureka or something?
> >
> >Ah go screw yourself and the donkey you rode in on.
>
> Hey, sorry dude. Didn't know you were *that* sensitive. The only cities I
> know of north of the general Bay Area Zone are Eureka, Ukiah and Crescent
> City.
I'm not *that* sensitive.... But having to think about my home town can
be a rather traumatic experience.
> >minds as Southern Oregon. Few seem to realize that San Fransico is
> >smack-dab in the _middle_ of California.
>
> Er, recheck your map Jeff. Right smack in the middle of California are a
> bunch of farms up there in Kern County and the like. The Bay Area is about
> 2/3 of the way up or so. Not as far north as some would believe, but it's
> about a 7-8 hour drive from LA to SF. And only about 5-6 from SF to
> Oregon. Factor in the 2 hours from Mexico to LA...
Okay, yeah, I know. In fact my geography gets a bit scewed from living in
No. Cal as well. It woudl be more accurate to say "the Bay Area" is in
the middle of California, since the line is drawn just south of Salinas at
Carmel for the bottom of the Bay Area. And by "middle" I was talking
North to South. East to West ends you up in the middle of the Central
Valley. And since the coast is more NW-SE than N-S sout of the Bay Area,
yes, San Fran is about 2/3 of the way up the coastline. On the other
hand, due to the state being wider in the north, my statement that nearly
a quarter of the land mass is north if Oroville still stands.
Funny thing is for many years people have been wanting to split the state
up to get more Senators in Congress. Some other states would like to see
it too, to cut down on the fact that California has something like 49
Representatives. Plus the disputes in the State Congress are terrible as
it is. But it actually makes more sense to split it into THREE states
instead of just two. Of course that then causes all sorts of debate that
has gone on for years as to where to draw the lines.
> >Oddly, FASA seems to believe that Oroville will become some huge important
> >metroplex by 205X absorbing nearby Chico and becoming the most important
> >city north of Sacramento, if not San Francisco, being not too far from the
> >Tir border. (Excuse me while I roll about on the floor laughing.)
>
> Oh no, please, laugh all you want. The CalFree Sourcebook was a total joke
> and pissed me off royally. Turned my entire damn state into a friggin'
> hellhole. If I ever meet the folks that wrote that book I may very well
> have to pop them one across the jaw. I mean, they even forgot about
> incredibly important things to California! Wine, suburbs, Catalina Island,
> the BEACH!!. All of which are important parts of the California psyche and
> economy, but not a damn mention of them, not even once.
Yes, well, I suppose somebody would like to know how the Napa Valley
varietals are doing as of 205X...maybe the French will finally relent and
loose their snobbery (especially because many French wines are actually
created from Californian stock, after a blight nearly wiped out France's
wine region many years ago. Nah, who am I kidding? It'd take a lot more
than 60 years to get the French to relent on anything.
I remember fondly the look on Mark N.'s face when I told him his home town
had been turned into a "Pirate Kingdom."
While I don't think I would quite want to "pop them one" it would have
been nice (and I belive I've had this rant before) for FASA to have gone
out and researched the areas that they were going to devote fuller
descriptions to, preferably with people that actually know the area. Me
personally, I know California pretty intimately, north to south, mountains
to valley (even Silicon and The Valley(tm)), so I am probably a lot more
sensitive than most people. I'm sure those on the list from Britain and
Germany have their own rants. And of course, I can only tremble with fear
at what might happen to the NeoAnarchist's Guide to Asia when and if it
ever comes out. It only happens to be where something on the order of
3/5ths of the world's population lives, is all. Add to that being the
home to a significant percentage of the world megacorps (Wuxing, plus the
Japanese megas, and would hope that China, Korea, Indonesia, and India
could house many of the second and third tier megas). I suppose an entire
separate book could be devoted to the Middle East, and one for Africa,
especially for all the people wanting to run mercs. But, given lack of
knowledge, the two of them might get lumped together.
--Catch you later
Jeff
