Logs for ShadowRN and Associated Mailing Lists

From:	Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject:	0 Runners running
Date:	Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:20:50 +0100

Message no. 1 Hi everybody!

A player recently started sending 0 (yes, zero) Runners on runs. Is this
legal, and what effects/benefits can it possibly have? Can that player
uncover any Challenge?

Felix Hoefert

From:	Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject:	Re: 0 Runners running
Date:	Wed, 4 Feb 1998 13:08:28 -0800

Message no. 2 ---Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> A player recently started sending 0 (yes, zero) Runners on runs. Is
this
> legal, and what effects/benefits can it possibly have? Can that player
> uncover any Challenge?

There wouldn't be any runners to achieve/take the Challenge, so the
run couldn't be successful in the first place. At GC'97 Skuzzy also
clarified that if all runners were killed or sent home by the last
Challenge, there was no one left to move onto the Objective and thus
the run was forefit. Same goes for those who try to only send Deckers
remotely on a run.

I'd also say that if no runner was present to encounter it, then no
Challenge could be revealed. Otherwise you would have a free yet
munchy way to Recon.

I'm at work and don't have a RBT handy, so I can't say if anything
directly covering this is B&W in the rules.

** Also, your mailer is overriding SRCard's address in the reply-to
field if you could check into it. Thanx!

-== Loki ==-
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
Fearless Leader of the Shadowrun Trading Card Game Mailing List
SRCard FAQ: www.primenet.com/~gamemstr/srstuff/tcgfaq1.htm
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
Poisoned Elves: www.primenet.com/~gamemstr
SRTCG trade lists last updated 1/4/98
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @*****.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

From:	Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:	Re: 0 Runners running
Date:	Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:00:28 -0800

Message no. 3 Felix Hoefert wrote:

> Hi everybody!

> A player recently started sending 0 (yes, zero) Runners on runs. Is this
> legal, and what effects/benefits can it possibly have? Can that player
> uncover any Challenge?

Technically.. well, I suppose you *could* send zero Runners on a
shadowrun, especially if you were using Fuchi or Z-Zone (where Runners
visit a Location instead of the 'run). To be a little less dodgy,
there's nothing specifically preventing you from doing so, but it seems
against the spirit of the rules.

You could assign six Runners to Indirect Fire support -- four with FN
HARs and two with Remington 750s -- and pretty much maul any Challenge
that passes your way. (fourteen points of damage, plus possibly
ammunition.) But, without a 'man on the scene', all your snipers won't
know who or where to shoot at. Also, there's no way to skill-sleaze
certain challenges (Corpselight, for instance) and it will certainly
ruin the effect of others (Gut Check or Nets, where all the Runners are
in the safehouse).

It makes sense to me that at least one Runner needs to be present on the
run - not assisting on the run - for the run to proceed. Or succeed,
for that matter. When you use Indirect Fire, Deckers, and so on, you
get an added benefit, but at a certain risk.

-Mb

------------------------------------
With nomads I am numbered. -- E. MacColl

Teen Poets FAQ: http://pw1.netcom.com/~mbreton/poetry/poetfaq.htm
SRTCG Website: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/2189/ccgtop.htm

Mailing List Logs for

Disclaimer