Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Michael/Tamara Lorenz-Pease <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA>
Subject: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:31:31 -0400
Hi all question time!

1) Can Knuckles tap to prevent "Net-DMG" coming from say a Black Hammer
Attack on your Deckers?

2) Say someone plays "Change of Plans" on your Shadowrun, can you
respond with your OWN "Change of Plans" to to set yourself back on the
right track? IFso, what is the timing on this?

3) Can you play "Blazing Guns" on someone else's Gear/weapon card,
basically in order to trash it?

4) If a Mage has only one Skill in Sorcery, then she can only cast one
spell for the entire turn? So in other words, only one fireball which
lasts only one challenge?

5) Can Deckers tap to trade Programs in the same manner the tap to trade
other gear?

6) <beating a dead horse> I have seen so many answers from FASA and
otherwise, I dont; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is easily
the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor. Gripes
aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once the
challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send back
retroactively the "Sleazer"?

7) Bounty Hunter: Which of the following cases applies to "Pulling out
of a run" so you can be Bounty Hunted.
a) You pull out <duhhh>
b) You use Invisibility
c) You can't kill said challenge and thus stop yer run <Chomps>
d) Elite Security Mage sends a guy home
e) the GOD power card "GAQS" sends a guy home



I hate to say it but my gaming group's general consensus is that we
haven;t had this much fun with a CCG since the inital release of
MAGIC<tg> of yesteryear.... I just wish that they would be alittle less
naive and realise for clarity sake that they should create a distinct
phase-order for which Stingers such as GAQS can be played.

Just my thoughts for the day...

Tamara
Message no. 2
From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:37:19 -0700
---Michael/Tamara Lorenz-Pease <treehugr@****.ON.ROGERS.WAVE.CA> wrote:
>
> Hi all question time!
>
> 1) Can Knuckles tap to prevent "Net-DMG" coming from say a Black
> HammerAttack on your Deckers?
>
I would vote no on this one. Part of the guard ability specifies that
they must be present (on run to guard another runner, in safehouse to
help a runner there). Since the Net-DMG is in the Matrix unless you
can get a guard in there somehow I don't think it fits.


> 2) Say someone plays "Change of Plans" on your Shadowrun, can you
> respond with your OWN "Change of Plans" to to set yourself back on
the
> right track? IF so, what is the timing on this?
>
Again with the timing :-) ARGH! ;-)

Anyway, they play their CoP (anyone else get a shiver at that
abbreviation ;-) ) and choose your new Objective. That card is
trashed. You then play your CoP and choose your new Objective. That
card is trashed. The run continues from there.


> 3) Can you play "Blazing Guns" on someone else's Gear/weapon card,
> basically in order to trash it?
>
I would vote yes. Mainly just to keep things consistant with the word
target (re earlier message regarding Stilleto and his stealth
ability). I can see where people would get upset though after having
laid out the money for the Ares with the laser scope, extended clip,
AP and explosive rounds....

> 4) If a Mage has only one Skill in Sorcery, then she can only cast
one
> spell for the entire turn? So in other words, only one fireball which
> lasts only one challenge?
>

Yes, to the best of my understanding

> 5) Can Deckers tap to trade Programs in the same manner the tap to
> trade other gear?
>
I would vote yes on this on. After all I'm sure we all have done a
little "sharing" of programs in our life :-)


> 6) <beating a dead horse> I have seen so many answers from FASA and
> otherwise, I don't; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is
easily
> the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor.
Gripes
> aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once the
> challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send back
> retroactively the "Sleazer"?
>
NO! Once they meet the sleaze requirements it is sleazed. If GAQS is
used before the sleaze requirements are known then that runner isn't
present to help in the sleaze. Maybe that's a good way to think about
it, SLEAZING IS AUTOMATIC. If the runners meet the sleaze
requirements when it is exposed, the sleaze happens. It doesn't
matter what happens to any of the runners after the card is exposed.
It only matters what the sleaze requirements are and what skill set is
present when the card is first exposed. This also eliminates the
shouting matches that some people have mentioned. What do people
think about this?


> 7) Bounty Hunter: Which of the following cases applies to "Pulling
out
> of a run" so you can be Bounty Hunted.
> a) You pull out <duhhh>
> b) You use Invisibility
> c) You can't kill said challenge and thus stop yer run
<Chomps>
> d) Elite Security Mage sends a guy home
> e) the GOD power card "GAQS" sends a guy home
>
>
I would say "pulling out" is a voluntary action. So which ever of
these situations above (and those other not listed) that allows the
owner of the runners to decide he/she no longer wants to continue on
the run, that's "pulling out". If the choice to send the runner home
wasn't made by the player (GAQS, end of run challenge cards such as
Hellish Traffic) then the Bounty Hunter can't be used.


>
> I hate to say it but my gaming group's general consensus is
that we
> haven;t had this much fun with a CCG since the inital release of
> MAGIC<tg> of yesteryear.... I just wish that they would be alittle
less
> naive and realise for clarity sake that they should create a
distinct
> phase-order for which Stingers such as GAQS can be played.
>
As someone stated over the weekend, give it time. Nothing is perfect
the first time out of the box. So far FASA, Skuzzy and the others
seem open to our ideas and suggestions so in future revisions and
expansions these issues we are bringing up are theoretically going to
be addressed. Magic has the benefit of having been the first CCG and
has been around for years now, so it has a better balance of cards.
To it's credit though I was able to do something with my first starter
of Shadowrun cards that I wasn't able to do with my first starter of
Magic cards. Mainly play a game. Granted the deck wasn't all that
good, but I was atleast able to get some runners out and make some
runs. For Magic it wasn't until I bought 2-3 starters, 1/2 dozen
boosters and made a lot of trades that I came close to winning a game.

As for my gaming group, the majority of them are still focusing on
M:TG. Some are coming around to SR, mainly because we've played the
RPG for years now. Personally I think WotC is getting too money
hungry. I mean 2 complete sets a year, not to mention several
expansion sets. It got so bad that one of my friends who has a
complete set of everything from The Dark to present isn't going to
bother with Tempest. That's getting off topic though.


As always...
Forrest






_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 3
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:29:45 -0700
---Forrest wrote:
>
> > 7) Bounty Hunter: Which of the following cases applies to "Pulling
> out
> > of a run" so you can be Bounty Hunted.
> > a) You pull out <duhhh>
> > b) You use Invisibility
> > c) You can't kill said challenge and thus stop yer run
> <Chomps>
> > d) Elite Security Mage sends a guy home
> > e) the GOD power card "GAQS" sends a guy home
> >
> >
> I would say "pulling out" is a voluntary action. So which ever of
> these situations above (and those other not listed) that allows the
> owner of the runners to decide he/she no longer wants to continue on
> the run, that's "pulling out". If the choice to send the runner home
> wasn't made by the player (GAQS, end of run challenge cards such as
> Hellish Traffic) then the Bounty Hunter can't be used.

This is not quite a corect assumption.

First, I don't consider being intercepted a voluntary end to your
Shadowrun, yet the rulebook thingy (pg 71) says: "Intercepting a
shadowrun automatically ends the shadowrun. The Runner is considered
to have pulled out of the shadowrun even if the team defeats the
intercepting Runner(s)."

Secondly, we got a repsonse from FASA on this that was posted to
thelist and is also included in the Game Q&A still to-be-posted on our
List homepage.

~~~~~~~~~~
Q.Bounty Hunter-can you use it whenever a runner leaves a run, for
whatever reason? Barney Phyffe, Green Apple, or even if they just fall
into the Nets or can't get past the Maglock?

A.Bounty Hunter can be used whenever a Runner pulls out of a run (for
any reason) before taking the Objective.
~~~~~~~~~~

Basically anytime a Runner team goes on a shadowrun and fails to take
the objective, for any reason, you may use the Bounty Hunter. My
personal favorite combo...Maglocks and the Bounty Hunter. :o) I can
just picture Gore Tusk hunkered over that little Maglock trying to
guess a code while the Bounty Hunter stealths up behind, places the
barrel of his pistol to the back of Gore Tusk's head and there's the
click of the hammer pulling back. <EG>

===
@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

Fearless Leader of the Shadowrun Trading Card Game Mailing List
Web Page: Poisoned Elves at www.primenet.com/~gamemstr

"You're calling me Bitch like it's a bad thing."
--> CrapGame during the Drive in the Country tournament

_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 4
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:44:47 -0700
---Forrest wrote:
>
--- Tamara wrote:
> >
> > 6) <beating a dead horse>

<police megaphone>

Leave the horse alone! Now put down the stick and back away from the
carcass!

</police megaphone>
:o)


> > I have seen so many answers from FASA and
> > otherwise, I don't; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is
> easily
> > the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor.
> Gripes
> > aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once
the
> > challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send
back
> > retroactively the "Sleazer"?

Relax a little bit about it. We already know how you feel about GAQS
and the timing thing. I end up forwarding a number of our posts to
FASA, Skuzzy and Jim as I parlay with them over rulings and lists
issues. I'm tired of editing out bits of dripping sarcasm here and
there to save List face. Remember, they've said they'll be subbing to
the list sometime down the road, and you won't know when 'til you
actually see a response from them. It's generally not good practice to
upset or peeve one's game designers. ;o)

> NO! Once they meet the sleaze requirements it is sleazed. If GAQS
is
> used before the sleaze requirements are known then that runner isn't
> present to help in the sleaze. Maybe that's a good way to think
about
> it, SLEAZING IS AUTOMATIC. If the runners meet the sleaze
> requirements when it is exposed, the sleaze happens. It doesn't
> matter what happens to any of the runners after the card is exposed.
> It only matters what the sleaze requirements are and what skill set
is
> present when the card is first exposed. This also eliminates the
> shouting matches that some people have mentioned. What do people
> think about this?

Going by repsonses we've gotten from FASA you can use GAQS after a
challenge is revealed to get rid of a runner that is making the sleaze
requirements. I believe that's one of the primary origins for GAQS.

In the games I've played thus far, we've been playing it that way and
I fail to see the timing issues that has a few list members all pent
up.

Anyways, I've already said I forwarded Jim and Skuzzy a copy of Brett
Barksdale's post where he heatedly disagreed with their GAQS ruling.
When I get a futher response back on the timing issues I'll post it.

===
@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

Fearless Leader of the Shadowrun Trading Card Game Mailing List
Web Page: Poisoned Elves at www.primenet.com/~gamemstr

"You're calling me Bitch like it's a bad thing."
--> CrapGame during the Drive in the Country tournament
_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 5
From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:02:24 -0700
---Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM> wrote:
[snip]
> Secondly, we got a repsonse from FASA on this that was posted to
> thelist and is also included in the Game Q&A still to-be-posted on
our
> List homepage.
>

[snip]

Oh well wrong again :-) I've been trying to be more careful about
checking with the FAQs before stating something. I didn't find this
in either the one on FASA's website, or the one you sent me the other
day. I take it this Q&A mentioned above is something different from
either of those. It's the list one that's been talked about for
awhile right. Is this going to replace the FAQ or be a supplement to
it?

Just wondering
Thanks
Forrest


_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 6
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:21:36 -0700
---Forrest wrote:
>
> Oh well wrong again :-) I've been trying to be more careful about
> checking with the FAQs before stating something. I didn't find this
> in either the one on FASA's website, or the one you sent me the other
> day. I take it this Q&A mentioned above is something different from
> either of those. It's the list one that's been talked about for
> awhile right. Is this going to replace the FAQ or be a supplement to
> it?

The Game Q&A is a compilation of the repsonses and rulings the list
has gotten from FASA. Eventually it'll have a home on our List
Homepage, for now the current version resides at:

http://www.oakland.edu/~ddmccoll/sr/temp/faq.htm

We're not intending for it to replace FASA's FAQ but rather work in
tandem with there's as our may come to hold some more obscure rulings
and questions they haven't included.

-== Loki ==-
_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 7
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:00:29 -0400
At 07:31 AM 9/15/97 -0400, Michael/Tamara Lorenz-Pease wrote these timeless
words:
>Hi all question time!
>
>1) Can Knuckles tap to prevent "Net-DMG" coming from say a Black Hammer
>Attack on your Deckers?
>
I would say no, as there's no way for him to "take the bullet", so to spea,
and the deckers aren''t physically fighting.

>2) Say someone plays "Change of Plans" on your Shadowrun, can you
>respond with your OWN "Change of Plans" to to set yourself back on the
>right track? IFso, what is the timing on this?
>
I don;t have my cards on me at the moment, so I'm not sure. Probably not,
as it would have to worded VERY specifically to allow this...

>3) Can you play "Blazing Guns" on someone else's Gear/weapon card,
>basically in order to trash it?
>
Sure, but they have to be using the weapon, so you would have to play it
when a runner goes into a combat and uses the gun...

>4) If a Mage has only one Skill in Sorcery, then she can only cast one
>spell for the entire turn? So in other words, only one fireball which
>lasts only one challenge?
>
Exacly... One point, one spell per turn. That's why spells like Fireball
are so potent...

>5) Can Deckers tap to trade Programs in the same manner the tap to trade
>other gear?
>
I would assume so... tehy could also trade decks...

I don't think spells could be traded, though... (between Mages, not
deckers :))

>6) <beating a dead horse> I have seen so many answers from FASA and
>otherwise, I dont; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is easily
>the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor. Gripes
>aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once the
>challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send back
>retroactively the "Sleazer"?
>
Yes, as I did this during a Demo Game at Gen Con. And the guy teachi9ng me
said it was legal, so...

>7) Bounty Hunter: Which of the following cases applies to "Pulling out
>of a run" so you can be Bounty Hunted.
> a) You pull out <duhhh>

Yup

> b) You use Invisibility
> c) You can't kill said challenge and thus stop yer run <Chomps>
> d) Elite Security Mage sends a guy home
> e) the GOD power card "GAQS" sends a guy home
>
You did not voluntarily pull out of the run, you were simply sent home,
unable to pass by, so no.

> I hate to say it but my gaming group's general consensus is that we
>haven;t had this much fun with a CCG since the inital release of
>MAGIC<tg> of yesteryear.... I just wish that they would be alittle less
>naive and realise for clarity sake that they should create a distinct
>phase-order for which Stingers such as GAQS can be played.
>
hehe...:]

I agree that they need to define what happens when during the phase, but
they should try and keep the timing simple. First card plays, happens, and
if two cards are played at once, roll a die. And the loser should not be
"stuck" playing his card after the winner's card gets played, especially if
his target is no longer there. He should have his choice of whether or not
he still wants to play the card.

Also, players need to realize that this is a friendly game, and that there
whould be time to play the cards. Magic had to do that, by saying that the
player whose turn it is couldn;t "rush through" a phase, screwing the
opponent out of the chance to react... (My legwork phase is over, you
can;t play anything...).

>Just my thoughts for the day...
>
Just my responses, none of which are official or even right...:]

>Tamara
>
Bull
--
Bull, aka Steven Ratkovich, aka Rak, aka a lot of others! :]

The Offical Celebrity Shadowrn Mailing List Welcome Ork Decker!
Fearless Leader of the Star Wars Mailing List
List Flunky of ShadowCreations, creators of the Newbies Guide,
in production now!
HOME PAGE: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3604/home.html

"Whoever invented solataire is one sadistic son of a bitch"
-- Me, after spending 2 hours trying to win a game
Message no. 8
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 04:24:37 -0700
> Hi all question time!

> 1) Can Knuckles tap to prevent "Net-DMG" coming from say a Black Hammer
> Attack on your Deckers?

In order to use Guard, both runners have to be "present" - either on a
shadowrun or in the safehouse together (or intercepting together). I'd
probably not allow Matrix damage to be guarded.

> 2) Say someone plays "Change of Plans" on your Shadowrun, can you
> respond with your OWN "Change of Plans" to to set yourself back on the
> right track? IFso, what is the timing on this?

You declare a shadowrun on Loki's Black Book.
Dvixen, realizing you stand a good chance of taking the objective and
winning, plays a Change of Plans. Bang, now you're running against your
own Milk Run.
You decide you like this winning thing, and play your own Change of
Plans on yourself. Now you're running against the Book again.
I decide I hate you and play a Wild Goose Chase. :P

> 3) Can you play "Blazing Guns" on someone else's Gear/weapon card,
> basically in order to trash it?

Sure. They still deal double Pistol damage, of course.

> 4) If a Mage has only one Skill in Sorcery, then she can only cast one
> spell for the entire turn? So in other words, only one fireball which
> lasts only one challenge?

Yeah. Makes mages seem much weaker than shamans, honestly. (I'd rather
have a 5/5 spirit that's good for two or three Challenges than a 10/3
mage that turns back to 2/3 on the next one.)

> 5) Can Deckers tap to trade Programs in the same manner the tap to trade
> other gear?

Sure. Have a floppy disk.

> 6) <beating a dead horse> I have seen so many answers from FASA and
> otherwise, I dont; really care anymore. For 2 nuyen this card is easily
> the best card in this CCG, more handy then even the False Mentor. Gripes
> aside, ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS..... IS "GAQS" RETROACTIVE? So once the
> challenge is flipped and would normally be sleazed, can you send back
> retroactively the "Sleazer"?

Yes. No need to shout. Remember, you can get GAQed.. and GAQ your
opponent yourself.

Sudden realization: GAQ is utterly useless against Red Widow.

> 7) Bounty Hunter: Which of the following cases applies to "Pulling out
> of a run" so you can be Bounty Hunted.
> a) You pull out <duhhh>
> b) You use Invisibility
> c) You can't kill said challenge and thus stop yer run <Chomps>
> d) Elite Security Mage sends a guy home
> e) the GOD power card "GAQS" sends a guy home

All of the above. Just remember, the Bountyman can get cacked, too (not
to mention Hitmanned or Stevened.)

> I hate to say it but my gaming group's general consensus is that we
> haven;t had this much fun with a CCG since the inital release of
> MAGIC<tg> of yesteryear.... I just wish that they would be alittle less
> naive and realise for clarity sake that they should create a distinct
> phase-order for which Stingers such as GAQS can be played.

I think it's fine as it stands... I'd limit to being used only before a
Challenge is revealed, but that's just me.

> Just my thoughts for the day...

> Tamara
Message no. 9
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:52:31 -0700
---Matb wrote:
>
> Sudden realization: GAQ is utterly useless against Red Widow.

Not true. If she's already turned to go on the shadowrun, and then
summarily gets GAQ'd (which doesn't say she returns to safe house
unturned) she wouldn't be able to turn to join the run again.

===
@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

Fearless Leader of the Shadowrun Trading Card Game Mailing List
Web Page: Poisoned Elves at www.primenet.com/~gamemstr

"You're calling me Bitch like it's a bad thing."
--> CrapGame during the Drive in the Country tournament

_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 10
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 06:38:41 -0700
> > Sudden realization: GAQ is utterly useless against Red Widow.

> Not true. If she's already turned to go on the shadowrun, and then
> summarily gets GAQ'd (which doesn't say she returns to safe house
> unturned) she wouldn't be able to turn to join the run again.

Oof - good call. I'd gotten it into my mind she was a Serra Widow.
The GAQ bit is actually good on her at any time.

OTOH - is she immune to Nets? Nets sends her back to the safehouse
unturned; she immediately turns to rejoin her buddy Macabre who made it
through ok.

She'd be (more) fun if you could send her on any shadowrun in progress -
I've been getting into this "cooperative shadowrun" mindset lately.
Message no. 11
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:16:45 -0700
---Matb wrote:
>
> > > Sudden realization: GAQ is utterly useless against Red Widow.
>
> > Not true. If she's already turned to go on the shadowrun, and then
> > summarily gets GAQ'd (which doesn't say she returns to safe house
> > unturned) she wouldn't be able to turn to join the run again.
>
> Oof - good call. I'd gotten it into my mind she was a Serra Widow.
> The GAQ bit is actually good on her at any time.
>
> OTOH - is she immune to Nets? Nets sends her back to the safehouse
> unturned; she immediately turns to rejoin her buddy Macabre who made
it
> through ok.

Hmmm... Interesting. I don't see why technically that wouldn't work.

> She'd be (more) fun if you could send her on any shadowrun in
progress -
> I've been getting into this "cooperative shadowrun" mindset lately.

The FASA FAQ 2.0 says you can use Yamaha Rapier to join an opponents
shadowrun, so I'd say Red Widow could too. However, this wouldn't be
to your advantage unless in team-play. The rep earned from the run is
still going to your opponent, and if he's not on your team guess who's
gonna suffer from Booby Traps and Manticores? ;o)

===
@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

Fearless Leader of the Shadowrun Trading Card Game Mailing List
Web Page: Poisoned Elves at www.primenet.com/~gamemstr

"You're calling me Bitch like it's a bad thing."
--> CrapGame during the Drive in the Country tournament

_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com
Message no. 12
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 08:20:38 -0700
> > > > Sudden realization: GAQ is utterly useless against Red Widow.

> > > Not true. If she's already turned to go on the shadowrun, and then
> > > summarily gets GAQ'd (which doesn't say she returns to safe house
> > > unturned) she wouldn't be able to turn to join the run again.

> > Oof - good call. I'd gotten it into my mind she was a Serra Widow.

Carp me for the MtG references. I'll behave now.

> > The GAQ bit is actually good on her at any time.

> > OTOH - is she immune to Nets? Nets sends her back to the safehouse
> > unturned; she immediately turns to rejoin her buddy Macabre who made
> it through ok.

> Hmmm... Interesting. I don't see why technically that wouldn't work.

I knew she was immune to something. Maybe they should rename Nets to
Webs in her honor?

> > She'd be (more) fun if you could send her on any shadowrun in
> progress - I've been getting into this "cooperative shadowrun" mindset
lately.

> The FASA FAQ 2.0 says you can use Yamaha Rapier to join an opponents
> shadowrun, so I'd say Red Widow could too. However, this wouldn't be
> to your advantage unless in team-play. The rep earned from the run is
> still going to your opponent, and if he's not on your team guess who's
> gonna suffer from Booby Traps and Manticores? ;o)

"You can't do this to me! I sleazed you past the Sentry Guns!
Nooooooo!"

I just have this odd situation in mind where my "left-hand wingman" goes
on a run; as his heros are Booby Trapped and Barney Phyffed away, I send
in Widow and the Rapier folk, so eventually I'm the only one with
Runners at the end :) It'd make for a fun Objective - "Mass Melee" or
whatever they call those free-for-all wrestling matches.
Message no. 13
From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: 4th Bunch of Questions
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:56:31 -0700
---Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM> wrote:
>
[snip]
> > The FASA FAQ 2.0 says you can use Yamaha Rapier to join an
opponents
> > shadowrun, so I'd say Red Widow could too. However, this wouldn't
be
> > to your advantage unless in team-play. The rep earned from the run
> >is still going to your opponent, and if he's not on your team guess
> > who's gonna suffer from Booby Traps and Manticores? ;o)
>
> "You can't do this to me! I sleazed you past the Sentry Guns!
> Nooooooo!"
>

This is why you should work out "fair compensation" before hand.
"I'll loan you Stomper with the Yamaha and Katana for 5Y".

Evil thought... is it just me or does anyone else see the potential
for "blackmail" here. "You know, it's a real shame that your Red
Widow was GAQSd away. I could loan you mine, it's gonna cost you
though" ;-)

Forrest
_____________________________________________________________________
Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about 4th Bunch of Questions, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!