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Message no. 1
From: "Bourgault, Patrick" <pbourgau@***.CA>
Subject: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:18:00 PDT
1) A just hit a Mine Field with six runners on the run. 4 team members
are suppose to die, so to save one, I play Tactics:Scatter on one of the
4 runners so he can live. I'm suppose to give all runners one more point
of damage. The question is, can I put damage on a runner even if he
cannot take more damage ??

2) On a runners vs runners combat, can the damage be applied to my
opponent's runners ?? The card says "Damage intended for that Runner
must be divided as evenly as possible among all Runners present". If so,
who decide where to put the damage ?? If you need an example, just
imagine a team including Torgo with 2 katanas intercept my team. I think
I'd like to give my opponent a small tokken of my appreciation !!!

3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're not
affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
correct in this assumption ???

4) Can I play this card on a Drone/Spirit who just received damage ???

tx.
Message no. 2
From: Felix Hoefert <FHoefert@********.DE>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:56:42 +0200
Bourgault, Patrick wrote:
>
> 1) A just hit a Mine Field with six runners on the run. 4 team members
> are suppose to die, so to save one, I play Tactics:Scatter on one of the
> 4 runners so he can live. I'm suppose to give all runners one more point
> of damage. The question is, can I put damage on a runner even if he
> cannot take more damage ??
>

In case of Tactics: Scatter, yes. Since the card tells you to "scatter"
the damage, you must do so. You just canīt do this voluntarily.

> 2) On a runners vs runners combat, can the damage be applied to my
> opponent's runners ?? The card says "Damage intended for that Runner
> must be divided as evenly as possible among all Runners present". If so,
> who decide where to put the damage ?? If you need an example, just
> imagine a team including Torgo with 2 katanas intercept my team. I think
> I'd like to give my opponent a small tokken of my appreciation !!!
>

Iīve had this situation often. The damage must be divided evenly on all
Runners. That means your opponents, too. So you effectively give the
stronger Runners some of their own damage back.

> 3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're not
> affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
> they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
> correct in this assumption ???
>

Thatīs right. But you canīt use Tactics: Scatter on a drone or spirit,
and the divided damage canīt be applied to a drone or spirit, since the
card specifies 'Runner'. See below. ---Felix

> 4) Can I play this card on a Drone/Spirit who just received damage ???
Message no. 3
From: "Bourgault, Patrick" <pbourgau@***.CA>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 09:16:00 PDT
> 3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're not
> affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
> they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
> correct in this assumption ???
>

That?s right. But you can?t use Tactics: Scatter on a drone or spirit,
and the divided damage can?t be applied to a drone or spirit, since the
card specifies 'Runner'. See below. ---Felix

Are the drones/spirits considered runners ONLY during combat ??
Message no. 4
From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:29:01 -0400
>> 3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're not
>> affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
>> they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
>> correct in this assumption ???
>>
>
>That?s right. But you can?t use Tactics: Scatter on a drone or spirit,
>and the divided damage can?t be applied to a drone or spirit, since the
>card specifies 'Runner'. See below. ---Felix
>
>Are the drones/spirits considered runners ONLY during combat ??


They are never considered runners, they just ct like them during combat.
When you enter combat, for the purposses of assigning attackers, and
blockers, Drones may take the plece of their controling Rigger. They deal
and receive the damage from normal combat, other than that, they never have
the characteristics of runners, and are NEVER NEVER NEVER counted as a
runner for a card that says "runner(s)" on it.
Message no. 5
From: "James E. Frazer" <jimmicane@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:42:07 -0700
>> 3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're not
>> affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
>> they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
>> correct in this assumption ???
>>
>
>That?s right. But you can?t use Tactics: Scatter on a drone or spirit,
>and the divided damage can?t be applied to a drone or spirit, since the
>card specifies 'Runner'. See below. ---Felix
>
>Are the drones/spirits considered runners ONLY during combat ??
>
Actually, drones and spirits are never considered runners. They behave as runners during
combat (they can deal and recieve damage) , but they are still treated as Gear/Drone and
Gear/Magic cards. If a card says trash a runner, a runner takes X damage, all runners
present are healed completely (not a real card, but it'd be neat), etc... it still doesn't
effect the gear cards.

I think the main reason they don't have Gear cards triggering minefields is that it would
start major arguments like "How can my Rotodrone trigger a mine? It's 500 feet in
the air!" (on a personal note, this is why I wish they never made the Yellowjacket
card. "Hell, I'll just fly over the Fusion gate, mine field, and hellish
traffic", but you can't do that).

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong
Hurricane


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Message no. 6
From: "James E. Frazer" <jimmicane@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:48:34 -0700
>1) A just hit a Mine Field with six runners on the run. 4 team members
>are suppose to die, so to save one, I play Tactics:Scatter on one of the
>4 runners so he can live. I'm suppose to give all runners one more point
>of damage. The question is, can I put damage on a runner even if he
>cannot take more damage ??

I could have to say No. The card says to apply damage as evenly as possible between all
runners present, and the rule book says that a runner can't have more damage assigned to
it than it's body rating - current damage. Since the runners are already taking enough
damage to kill them, you can't possibly assign more damage to them. Tactics:Converge
specifically addresses the issue, so it is the exception to the rule.
>
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong...
Hurricane


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Message no. 7
From: "Abadia, Teos" <Teos.Abadia@****.COM>
Subject: Re: A few questions about Tactics : Scatter
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:44:50 -0400
> ----------
> From: Bourgault, Patrick[SMTP:pbourgau@***.CA]
>
> 1) A just hit a Mine Field with six runners on the run. 4 team
> members
> are suppose to die, so to save one, I play Tactics:Scatter on one of
> the
> 4 runners so he can live. I'm suppose to give all runners one more
> point
> of damage. The question is, can I put damage on a runner even if he
> cannot take more damage ??
>
I would say that the Tactics Scatter is simultaneous with the rest of
the damage. That is, the mine field inflicts its 4 AP damage on 3 of
the runners, plus 3 more from the Scattered damage, all at the same
time. If the Tactics Scatter were worded as "Damage just inflicted on
Runner must be..." then this would take place after the first damage,
and the player would not be able to add damage to dead runners.

> 2) On a runners vs runners combat, can the damage be applied to my
> opponent's runners ?? The card says "Damage intended for that Runner
> must be divided as evenly as possible among all Runners present". If
> so,
> who decide where to put the damage ?? If you need an example, just
> imagine a team including Torgo with 2 katanas intercept my team. I
> think
> I'd like to give my opponent a small tokken of my appreciation !!!
>
I personally doubt that the intent of the card is to damage your
opponents. However, the text seems to imply it. Sounds like a good
question for FASA.

> 3) What about drones/spirits in the two first questions ?? They're
> not
> affected by Mine Field so they cannot receive damage, and in a R vs R
> they receive damage since they can be affected by other runners. Am I
> correct in this assumption ???
>
> 4) Can I play this card on a Drone/Spirit who just received damage ???
>
>
To both of the above, they are not runners, so you can't give them the
damage.


Teos Abadia
EHS Consultant
EMAX Solution Partners

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