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Message no. 1
From: Tony Glinka <glinka@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Ambidextrous and Katana
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 16:22:32 -0700
Here's a topic Loki and I are were discussing earlier today. If
you have say Lord Torgo with an Ambidextrous Special and then give him
2 katanas, does he add the melee in twice? Katanas are +2/+0 and user
gets to add his melee skill. Ambidextrous allows the runner to use
two weapons simultaneously. The ruling on handrazors allows the
runner to add melee in twice, but maybe hand razors are slightly
different since they are cyberware. So what does everybody think?

Tony
Message no. 2
From: James Poppe <azweepay@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Ambidextrous and Katana
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 00:31:25 -0500
> Here's a topic Loki and I are were discussing earlier today. If
>you have say Lord Torgo with an Ambidextrous Special and then give him
>2 katanas, does he add the melee in twice? Katanas are +2/+0 and user
>gets to add his melee skill. Ambidextrous allows the runner to use
>two weapons simultaneously. The ruling on handrazors allows the
>runner to add melee in twice, but maybe hand razors are slightly
>different since they are cyberware. So what does everybody think?

I would have to say yes, Torgo gets to add his melee twice (and watches as
the other players being to shudder)... I intent on using a slight variation
in that theory for a deck.

Hatchetman 2057-All the D#mn chipjacks I can
find-Skillsoft:Melee-Ambidextrous-2 Katanas-Doc Wagon (Platinum)

I figure with enough Nuyen, I can easily begin to start walking through
challenges and not worry about sleazing.
James Poppe
azweepay@********.com

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Message no. 3
From: Phillip G Jaros <phillip_jaros@**.US.SWISSBANK.COM>
Subject: Re: Ambidextrous and Katana
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 01:10:14 CDT
James Poppe <azweepay@********.COM> wrote:
>> Here's a topic Loki and I are were discussing earlier today. If
>>you have say Lord Torgo with an Ambidextrous Special and then give him
>>2 katanas, does he add the melee in twice? Katanas are +2/+0 and user
>>gets to add his melee skill. Ambidextrous allows the runner to use
>>two weapons simultaneously. The ruling on handrazors allows the
>>runner to add melee in twice, but maybe hand razors are slightly
>>different since they are cyberware. So what does everybody think?
>
>I would have to say yes, Torgo gets to add his melee twice (and watches as
>the other players being to shudder)... I intent on using a slight variation
>in that theory for a deck.

Yep, you'ld have to treat them just like hand razors... Katana's are
so nice... Although I still love giving Torgo Stun Gloves instead.

>Hatchetman 2057-All the D#mn chipjacks I can
>find-Skillsoft:Melee-Ambidextrous-2 Katanas-Doc Wagon (Platinum)
>
>I figure with enough Nuyen, I can easily begin to start walking through
>challenges and not worry about sleazing.

Yeah, he'ld be a very tough customer but there are alot more cost effective
ways of taking out challenges.

A minimum of 21 nuyen for a 12/6 runner who is immune to his first death
(but returned to the Safehouse) in 7 cards.

And the maximum a challenge (with out objective/integrated control center
bonuses) is 13.

Skwaaark with 2 hand razors is easier to get out, but can't use the
doc-wagon. Also Flatline can quickly become nastier for less nuyen
and one less card.

Personally I'ld take my chances with Lord Torgo and Stun gloves. :)

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Message no. 4
From: Forrest <eness@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Ambidextrous and Katana
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 05:19:30 -0700
---Tony Glinka <glinka@**.NETCOM.COM> wrote:
>
> Here's a topic Loki and I are were discussing earlier today. If
> you have say Lord Torgo with an Ambidextrous Special and then give
him
> 2 katanas, does he add the melee in twice? Katanas are +2/+0 and
user
> gets to add his melee skill. Ambidextrous allows the runner to use
> two weapons simultaneously. The ruling on handrazors allows the
> runner to add melee in twice, but maybe hand razors are slightly
> different since they are cyberware. So what does everybody think?
>
> Tony
>

Since it would take awhile (theoretically) and some effort to put this
combo together I would say that it is allowable. Also there is no
real basis for disallowing one or both of the bonuses simply because
it would make Torgo more of a pain than he is :-)

Forrest


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