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Message no. 1
From: cyberbunny <cyberbunny@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Ancients Deck
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 11:52:54 -0400
The Ancients (85/8)

Runners (18)
4 x Viper
4 x Redline
2 x Tinkerbell
1 x Loki
1 x Foxy Roxy
2 x Glitz
2 x Orion
2 x Red Widow

Gear (28)
4 x Yamaha Rapier
4 x Harley Scorpion
1 x NERPS!
4 x Fixed Fire Cannons
2 x Robo Doc
2 x Switchblade
2 x Katana
2 x Fireball
3 x Hand Razors
2 x Muscle Replacement
2 x Dermal Plating

Locations (4)
1 x Ares Macrotechnology
2 x Tir Taingire
1 x Club Vortex

Contacts (4)
1 x Elven Hitman
1 x Media Chick
2 x Ganger Leader

Specials/Stingers (11)
3 x Ancients
1 x Halloweeners
3 x Luck of the Irish
2 x Déjà vu
2 x Leader of the Pack

Challenges (20)
4 x Ancient’s Turf
4 x Halloweener Hell
2 x Scatterbrain Raid
2 x Steppin Wulf Ambush
4 x Razorhead Turf
2 x The Funhouse
2 x Yak Attack

Objectives (8)
2 x Gang War
1 x Turf War*
1 x Crime Wave*
3 x Initiation
1 x Street War*

So, what do you think?
Message no. 2
From: "James E. Frazer" <jimmicane@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Ancients Deck
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:59:43 -0700
>The Ancients (85/8)
>
>Runners (18)
>4 x Viper
>4 x Redline
>2 x Tinkerbell
>1 x Loki
>1 x Foxy Roxy
>2 x Glitz
>2 x Orion
>2 x Red Widow
>
>Gear (28)
>4 x Yamaha Rapier
>4 x Harley Scorpion
>1 x NERPS!
>4 x Fixed Fire Cannons
>2 x Robo Doc
>2 x Switchblade
>2 x Katana
>2 x Fireball
>3 x Hand Razors
>2 x Muscle Replacement
>2 x Dermal Plating
>
>Locations (4)
>1 x Ares Macrotechnology
>2 x Tir Taingire
>1 x Club Vortex
>
>Contacts (4)
>1 x Elven Hitman
>1 x Media Chick
>2 x Ganger Leader
>
>Specials/Stingers (11)
>3 x Ancients
>1 x Halloweeners
>3 x Luck of the Irish
>2 x Déjà vu
>2 x Leader of the Pack
>
>Challenges (20)
>4 x Ancient’s Turf
>4 x Halloweener Hell
>2 x Scatterbrain Raid
>2 x Steppin Wulf Ambush
>4 x Razorhead Turf
>2 x The Funhouse
>2 x Yak Attack
>
>Objectives (8)
>2 x Gang War
>1 x Turf War*
>1 x Crime Wave*
>3 x Initiation
>1 x Street War*
>
>So, what do you think?
>

I have a deck very similar to this, but I do a few things different... Yer deck is a
little large for my taste (I count 83 cards), most of the fat seems to be in the gear.
What I would do different is to replace both Orions with 2 more Red Widows. This lets you
ditch out the 2 fireballs. Also, the switchblades don't do you any good with your choice
of runners (you have a grand total of 2 melee in the deck right now). I would also ditch
out both RoboDocs and replace them with 2 more Dermal Platings (Elves need that extra
protection). Finally, I would ditch out the Fixed Fire Cannons. Yes they look neat, but
they cost 1 each to put on the bikes, and paying 2 extra for +D6 damage isn't really all
that great IMHO. That should get you down to 75 cards, which makes the deck more
consistant (no more getting both fireballs in your hand and not seeing an Orion till the
bottom of the deck).


That's just my opinion, I could be wrong...

Hurricane



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Message no. 3
From: Norman McLeod <mcleodn@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: Ancients Deck
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:55:02 -0400
>The Ancients (85/8)


Too big. Go down to 70/6

>Runners (18)
>4 x Viper
>4 x Redline
>2 x Tinkerbell
>1 x Loki
>1 x Foxy Roxy
>2 x Glitz
>2 x Orion
>2 x Red Widow


You need more Runners. Try adding Fame, it will greatly improve your deck.
Replace the Orions with better mages, perhaps Highbrow and/or Tempest.

>Gear (28)
>4 x Yamaha Rapier
>4 x Harley Scorpion
>1 x NERPS!
>4 x Fixed Fire Cannons
>2 x Robo Doc
>2 x Switchblade
>2 x Katana
>2 x Fireball
>3 x Hand Razors
>2 x Muscle Replacement
>2 x Dermal Plating


Way too many. Take out the Robo Docs (Add a Hawkwind) the Switchblades, the
Katanas and the Hand Razors (You have little Melee), and the Fireballs,
which should be replaced with Sleep and/or invisibility.

>Locations (4)
>1 x Ares Macrotechnology
>2 x Tir Taingire
>1 x Club Vortex

Good, except for the Ares Macrotechnology.

>Contacts (4)
>1 x Elven Hitman
>1 x Media Chick
>2 x Ganger Leader


Ditch the Ganger Leaders, they will harm as often as help.

>Specials/Stingers (11)
>3 x Ancients
>1 x Halloweeners
>3 x Luck of the Irish
>2 x Déjà vu
>2 x Leader of the Pack


Why the Halloweeners? Ancients is more than enough.

>Challenges (20)
>4 x Ancient’s Turf
>4 x Halloweener Hell
>2 x Scatterbrain Raid
>2 x Steppin Wulf Ambush
>4 x Razorhead Turf
>2 x The Funhouse
>2 x Yak Attack

Woa woa, spread your challenges out a little more. In my deck I only have
one double for challenges. A greater breadth allows you to get sleazed past
far less often, and please, cut down on Ancients Turfs, they pale in
comparison to the mighty Halloweened Hell.

>Objectives (8)
>2 x Gang War
>1 x Turf War*
>1 x Crime Wave*
>3 x Initiation
>1 x Street War*


Add another Initiation, and cut the Crime Wave.

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